Desktop Computers

Why is RGB a thing? I personally don't want the damn case glowing and flashing and disturbing me from the corner of the eye. The only RGB I support is backlit keyboard keys so I can see them in the dark.

Aazrael said:

Why is RGB a thing? I personally don't want the damn case glowing and flashing and disturbing me from the corner of the eye. The only RGB I support is backlit keyboard keys so I can see them in the dark.

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I really have no answer other than no reason not too. Not to mention I generally sell off a rig as I build a new one and people love to buy rgb. If you plan to sell a system that looks better will always sell before a system more powerful at same price. I didn’t start rgb till the year before last and those dam Thermaltake fans ran me over $300 for 12.The next build will use the 360 masterfan as the pusher and nothing else.

My next build is gonna be built with my now 7 year old son, so it's gonna be RGB all over the place because I know he'll like it and enjoy it. Those rainbow fans that look all cool and rainbow while spinning are really cool. Also like the ones that kinda hypnotic while spinning. It's gonna be a good time.

Canceled the order I made and will continue to look for options. It seems some motherboards dont support the 3000 series out of the box and I'm not about to buy a CPU just to flash it. Asus B450-I (mITX) was the one I ordered first. Will have too look around for an alternative that works right away. Otherwise I'll just buy a new case again that fit a normal size card which seems to have more options.

Edit: It might have been compatible now that I read about it, depends if you get a newer motherboard with the correct patch. But all the same, they did not have all the parts in so I will order from somewhere else. Considering just paying the 140dollar extra for the 3700x this time around. Might be better to futureproof

I generally don't do rgb either. I'm 36 not 12

I think it's all in location. Not only the location of the RGB and whats emitting the light in/on the computer, but also where it's located in the house/office/etc. I'm a fan of the all white builds, or black on white builds. I'm also a fan of sleek looking RGB, regardless of color as long as it has a theme - which in mind, is noticeable but not over the top pieces emitting RGB on the Video card, Ram, Mobo and (very rarely) the case. But fans emitting a ton of light, or the rain bow puke, or any of that stuff - it just doesnt look good to me (personally).

It's similar to what Linus was saying on tech talk about the PS5 - you may have just gotten boring as you became an adult. - Having RGB in your computer isnt necessarily childish in my opinion, but if you have RGB done in a tasteful, thematic way, then what is really the problem? A black and white build would look fine in my ideally... finished living room. But having a bunch of circus lights going crazy is going to look like shit.

Yeah RGB can look neat I agree with that. It's just me that don't like light disturbing me. I prefer the pitch black room when gaming.

Seems hard to find all components in stock at various retailers but they are now packaging my 3700x with mobo and ram.

How is overlooking with the 3600/3700x? Stock cooler enough or do you need something fancier? Also is it even necessary to OC?

Aazrael said:

Yeah RGB can look neat I agree with that. It's just me that don't like light disturbing me. I prefer the pitch black room when gaming.

Seems hard to find all components in stock at various retailers but they are now packaging my 3700x with mobo and ram.

How is overlooking with the 3600/3700x? Stock cooler enough or do you need something fancier? Also is it even necessary to OC?

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IMO as I did a deep dive of OCing my 3900x - and I assume 3700x is the same architecture just less cores.

Not worth it, here's why.

The ryzen CPUs have incredible boosting per core. I found through investigating that my CPU had one good chiplet and one bad chiplet. What I mean is 6 cores I could OC to 4.5GHz and 6 others to 4.3. But on single core performance I noticed the CPU would boost cores as needed to those exact upper limits that I found. OCing this chip will run it very hot because you're at the top end all the time. With boosting you're sitting at 3.8GHz (in my case) until needed.

So while you'll score a little high on cinebench, there's no real world time you'll have all cores fully boosted for an extended workload. Unless you're rendering videos, then ignore me.

I found while gaming that the appropriate cores boosted as needed and it worked flawlessly. To me it's not worth the added temps and strain on the CPU. Plus if you OC, you disable boost 100% which is removing their best feature.

I spent about a week OCing my chip and researching and consensus was it isn't worth it from everyone pretty much. That said, I always OCed my Intel chips.

I still use a noctua cooler over the wrath, but that's completely up to you.

3700x is defiantly not an overclocker's cpu.

There's no way right now to change single core boost clocks while manually oc'ing a Ryzen. Combine that with the fact that Ryzens at stock boost themselves based on temperature (and other factors) at every ~5C, has heavily reduced oc gains. A small under-volt can have some benefits, just not to performance. Infinity fabric can be overclocked but that depends on silicon, the memory controller, your motherboard, bios, and ram.

A beefier cooler will get you some better clocks from the lower temperatures, especially all core with pbo enabled. However the 3700x has a pretty low tdp and comes with the prism cooler, so you probably won't get much value from buying an aftermarket cooler.

Biggest gains you can get are usually from memory tuning. Even that might not be worth the time it takes to get right and test for stability, unless you have b-die.

Only thing you really need is remembering to enable xmp, that's still technically overclocking according to some manufacturers.

Definitely recommend manually doing RAM timings.

I got my b-die steelvipers 4133@cl19to 3600@cl14

Axiel said:

3700x is defiantly not an overclocker's cpu.

There's no way right now to change single core boost clocks while manually oc'ing a Ryzen. Combine that with the fact that Ryzens at stock boost themselves based on temperature (and other factors) at every ~5C, has heavily reduced oc gains. A small under-volt can have some benefits, just not to performance. Infinity fabric can be overclocked but that depends on silicon, the memory controller, your motherboard, bios, and ram.

A beefier cooler will get you some better clocks from the lower temperatures, especially all core with pbo enabled. However the 3700x has a pretty low tdp and comes with the prism cooler, so you probably won't get much value from buying an aftermarket cooler.

Biggest gains you can get are usually from memory tuning. Even that might not be worth the time it takes to get right and test for stability, unless you have b-die.

Only thing you really need is remembering to enable xmp, that's still technically overclocking according to some manufacturers.

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Stock cooler is fine, but it is a dust buster compared to a Noctua.

240hz isn't snakeoil, i doubt anyone on this forum needs it though