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Gravel

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I decided to say fuck it and stop building midrange PCs every time. Was going to go with a 7700x, but this morning I was strongly considering the 9800x3d. Checked first thing and they were in stock. Didn't pull the plug though and 20 minutes later they're gone. Oh well.
 
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Xexx

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sleevedraw said:
Two, maybe three reasons:

1) Basically x800s only have a single CCD. The x950s sometimes get hit with a latency penalty when workload gets caught in between cores on two different CCDs. Turbo mode on the new chips makes it so that the x950s will always process the gaming instructions on a single CCD, so now they won't get hit with the inter-CCD latency penalty. This can already be accomplished with some Process Lasso finagling, but it's kind of a pain in the ass. This basically adds an option to do it in BIOS, which may be more or less of a pain in the ass depending on your viewpoint.

2) These chips have even more cache than the 9800X3D (128 MB vs 96), so the cache hungry things will be fed even more effectively.

3) Possibly better silicon binning for higher clocks.
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9900x3d and 9950x3d will have the layout the same as the 9800x3d which the 7000 series did not use. I could be wrong on the jargon necessary there but i suspect the 9900x3d and 9950x3d will both be better than the 9800x3d. However the price/perf war between the 3 wont be known until next year some time.
 
Leadsalad

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9900X3D will be worse for gaming if it's still 1 and 1 with/without. The 9950X3D will be debatable depending on how well Windows can prioritize gaming on the cache CCD.
 
Kajiimagi

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Either way I'd wait for real benchmarks from peeps you trust. Techpowerup showed 9800x3d only 8% faster than my 7800x3d and only 1% at 4K. Considering I have 2 4k screens hooked up to my gaming rig I see zero reasons to upgrade.
 
Lambourne

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Unless you want to splurge there hasn't been much of a reason to go for top end CPUs in years, you are usually better off putting that money towards a better GPU. Speaking strictly about gaming performance.

A bargain bin i3-12100 gets nearly 90% of the performance at 4k, it's just so GPU limited at that resolution.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review - The Best Gaming Processor

The Ryzen 7 9800X3D establishes AMD as the leader in gaming performance. This Zen 5-based X3D chip is not only fast, it also comes with full support for overclocking. Besides gaming, application performance is considerably improved over the 7800X3D, but that comes at a price.
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com
 
Mist

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Lambourne said:
Unless you want to splurge there hasn't been much of a reason to go for top end CPUs in years, you are usually better off putting that money towards a better GPU. Speaking strictly about gaming performance.

A bargain bin i3-12100 gets nearly 90% of the performance at 4k, it's just so GPU limited at that resolution.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review - The Best Gaming Processor

The Ryzen 7 9800X3D establishes AMD as the leader in gaming performance. This Zen 5-based X3D chip is not only fast, it also comes with full support for overclocking. Besides gaming, application performance is considerably improved over the 7800X3D, but that comes at a price.
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com
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uh, a good gaming experience has way more to do with minimum frametimes.
 
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Sinistkir13

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I nabbed a 9800x3d on Newegg maybe 15 minutes before the official 9:00 AM release, and they were sold out shortly thereafter. I later received an email about them getting more in stock, but they're out again, so I lucked out.

Nvidia 4900 FE, 360 AIO, PSU, two hard drives, and everything for still will be NVME that I can expand upon.

All I need now is a motherboard and RAM, either 48GB or 64GB.

Ignoring price for a moment, the x870(e) line is a bit shit with the PCIEx1 lanes being split on every manufacturer except Asrock, and the x870 Gigabytes and MSI boards when they didn't do that with the x670(e) boards. If I'm reading things right, other than Asrock, you basically spend more on the higher end boards to split the 5.0 pcie 1 lane. I know we're not saturating it with GPUs yet, but I feel like that's a stupid trade off regardless if it wasn't a problem before, especially when they're splitting it with something as cheap and return-diminishing as storage.
 
Lanx

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Sinistkir13 said:
I nabbed a 9800x3d on Newegg maybe 15 minutes before the official 9:00 AM release, and they were sold out shortly thereafter. I later received an email about them getting more in stock, but they're out again, so I lucked out.

Nvidia 4900 FE, 360 AIO, PSU, two hard drives, and everything for still will be NVME that I can expand upon.

All I need now is a motherboard and RAM, either 48GB or 64GB.

Ignoring price for a moment, the x870(e) line is a bit shit with the PCIEx1 lanes being split on every manufacturer except Asrock, and the x870 Gigabytes and MSI boards when they didn't do that with the x670(e) boards. If I'm reading things right, other than Asrock, you basically spend more on the higher end boards to split the 5.0 pcie 1 lane. I know we're not saturating it with GPUs yet, but I feel like that's a stupid trade off regardless if it wasn't a problem before, especially when they're splitting it with something as cheap and return-diminishing as storage.
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just get 64

it's so nice never having to worry about ram
 
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Malakriss

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Amazon had the chips in stock but they were delivery dates in Dec, Jan, probably Feb by now. Maybe lots of scalpers getting in before tariffs jack up the prices.
 
Gravel

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Malakriss said:
Amazon had the chips in stock but they were delivery dates in Dec, Jan, probably Feb by now. Maybe lots of scalpers getting in before tariffs jack up the prices.
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Yeah, put it in my cart. 20-22 December. Said nope.

On a lark went back in 10 min later. 10-12 January.

Just going to go ahead and get a 7700x or 9700x I think.
 
Gravel

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So speaking of, here's what I've mostly settled on, although reading reviews it's always hard to tell what's worth a shit. So if there's something I should replace, let me know. Also still undecided on 7700x or 9700x like I said above. I also need a new monitor (this one is 1080p and I bought it 10 years ago). So if there's a good recommendation? Might be something that's better to wait on Black Friday though.


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Lanx

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Gravel said:
So speaking of, here's what I've mostly settled on, although reading reviews it's always hard to tell what's worth a shit. So if there's something I should replace, let me know. Also still undecided on 7700x or 9700x like I said above. I also need a new monitor (this one is 1080p and I bought it 10 years ago). So if there's a good recommendation? Might be something that's better to wait on Black Friday though.


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looks fine i remember you had a purebase 500
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the max gpu lengh is 369mm and the 4070 is 261mm, so youre in the clear
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remember to orientate the hoses down on the aio

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Mist

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Gravel said:
So speaking of, here's what I've mostly settled on, although reading reviews it's always hard to tell what's worth a shit. So if there's something I should replace, let me know. Also still undecided on 7700x or 9700x like I said above. I also need a new monitor (this one is 1080p and I bought it 10 years ago). So if there's a good recommendation? Might be something that's better to wait on Black Friday though.


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This is the best cheap monitor.

You should be able to get it on sale pretty soon.
 
Gravel

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Doesn't necessarily have to be cheap. I wanted a 9800x3d, so any savings from not buying that will go towards a monitor.

Any thoughts on 9700x vs 7700x?
 
Fucker

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Gravel said:
Doesn't necessarily have to be cheap. I wanted a 9800x3d, so any savings from not buying that will go towards a monitor.

Any thoughts on 9700x vs 7700x?
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9700X 6% faster for $57 more. I'd get the 9700X. It runs cooler than 7700X and can get a nice air cooler for a lot less than that AIO you have listed. Ask Mist about which air cooler to get. Also Dell makes a nice screen. $199 for 165 Hz is sweet.
 
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