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Cables. Display port to HDMI. What's a good cable?
Sure you cant just use an adapter and pair that up with a good cable? Cause the conversion "cables" generally have shit bandwidth. Im also assuming you're talking about your own computer and we're looking for DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.1. Not some bottom of the barrel $6 dollar cable.
 

Lanx

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Cables. Display port to HDMI. What's a good cable?
it's hit or miss imo, i will say i did buy a dp to hdmi
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Displayport to HDMI Cable 4K 6.6ft, Uni-Directional DP PC to HDMI Display Cord, 2K@120Hz Display Port to HDMI Adapter, DP PC, Laptop to HDMI HDTV, Monitor, Projector
my monitor started flickering, of course i have like 20lbs of cables so i tried a few, mainly they were hdmi to hdmi, the ones that did work were the 8k ones i bought a while ago, but they were long, so i tried a dp to hdmi cable i had lying around and it still flickered. (i immediately throw out these cables now)
i just bought that one to try and that one didn't flicker
 
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Malakriss

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HDMI 2.2 comes out 2025 so don't overpay when you will have to replace them in a couple years anyways.
 

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Intel's Newest "0x114" Microcode Reportedly Fails To Resolve "Arrow Lake-S" CPU Issues, Now Bringing In Up To 18% Performance Drop

Intel's newest "0x114" microcode apparently is unable to resolve the troublesome performance issues with Arrow Lake processors, as new benchmarks show further degradation.

For those unaware, Intel previously saw a massive difference in ARL-S performance on consumer systems compared to their internal testing, which is why the firm recently released a new "0x114" microcode, which was set to fix multiple root issues identified by the firm in their recent "Field Update", but things haven't been resolved yet.

According to benchmarks by @CapFrameX, Intel's 0x114 microcode has failed to address Arrow Lake-S issues, as testing reveals yet again a massive drop in gaming performance. While running Intel's Core Ultra 9 285K on Cyberpunk 2077, the average FPS saw around an 18% decline, which is a significant drop, especially when you stack up the original drop in performance numbers.

Memory latency is also said to have increased, and in the benchmarks, it rose by around 14%, which is indeed disappointing.

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Intel's Newest "0x114" Microcode Reportedly Fails To Resolve "Arrow Lake-S" CPU Issues, Now Bringing In Up To 18% Performance Drop

Intel's newest "0x114" microcode apparently is unable to resolve the troublesome performance issues with Arrow Lake processors, as new benchmarks show further degradation.

For those unaware, Intel previously saw a massive difference in ARL-S performance on consumer systems compared to their internal testing, which is why the firm recently released a new "0x114" microcode, which was set to fix multiple root issues identified by the firm in their recent "Field Update", but things haven't been resolved yet.

According to benchmarks by @CapFrameX, Intel's 0x114 microcode has failed to address Arrow Lake-S issues, as testing reveals yet again a massive drop in gaming performance. While running Intel's Core Ultra 9 285K on Cyberpunk 2077, the average FPS saw around an 18% decline, which is a significant drop, especially when you stack up the original drop in performance numbers.

Memory latency is also said to have increased, and in the benchmarks, it rose by around 14%, which is indeed disappointing.

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How the mighty have fallen.
 

Lambourne

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Imagine telling someone from a decade ago that you can build a really solid midrange PC with an AMD cpu and an intel GPU in 2024.

I suspect Intel has moved all the talent to the GPU side of the building, their new GPU does particularly well on AI tasks so that's obviously been the main focus. 24GB version of it (pointless for games but great for AI) rumored to be coming soon.

 

Neranja

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I suspect Intel has moved all the talent to the GPU side of the building, their new GPU does particularly well on AI tasks so that's obviously been the main focus.
I think they brought in a lot of engineers from outside for the GPU division. Raja Koduri came directly from AMD (which turned out to be a shit decision) and Tom Petersen came from Nvidia.
Intel seriously underestimated the software engineering requirements for their GPU division because of Koduri.

Also, I think Intels CEOs before Pat Gelsinger--especially Bob Swan--fucked up pretty hard, but Intel still had a lot of momentum and technological leadership back then. Once TSMC and AMD started to run laps around Intel (which became obvious that this would happen sooner or later at the latest in July 2019 with the Zen 2 launch) Intel should've pushed their own fab game hard, or start buying capacity from TSMC.

This may have cost them a lot of goodwill from good engineers, who don't want to work on subpar mediocre shit. Prime example is Jim Keller, who fucked off from Intel in 2020 because of "personal reasons", when later it came out that he resigned because of an argument Intel about outsourcing more of its production. Intel could've had their own Zen moment, only to piss off the man who had a track record of producing technological leadership.
 
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I think they brought in a lot of engineers from outside for the GPU division. Raja Koduri came directly from AMD (which turned out to be a shit decision) and Tom Petersen came from Nvidia.
Intel seriously underestimated the software engineering requirements for their GPU division because of Koduri.

Also, I think Intels CEOs before Pat Gelsinger--especially Bob Swan--fucked up pretty hard, but Intel still had a lot of momentum and technological leadership back then. Once TSMC and AMD started to run laps around Intel (which became obvious that this would happen sooner or later at the latest in July 2019 with the Zen 2 launch) Intel should've pushed their own fab game hard, or start buying capacity from TSMC.

This may have cost them a lot of goodwill from good engineers, who don't want to work on subpar mediocre shit. Prime example is Jim Keller, who fucked off from Intel in 2020 because of "personal reasons", when later it came out that he resigned because of an argument Intel about outsourcing more of its production. Intel could've had their own Zen moment, only to piss off the man who had a track record of producing technological leadership.
And to make things worse, they dumped Gelsinger before his plans to fix the fabs could be completed. 50/50 chance the new CEO will axe the GPU division and continue trying to run a tech company based upon quarterly plans. In short: Intel is fucked long term.
 

Neranja

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Intel boughtout all of asmls 2025 euv machines
Sadly, that doesn't mean anything, especially short term. It takes ASML alone around 6 months to install a lithography machine, and they ship only 5 to 6 in a year (Intel has 15 fabs). It will take probably at least three months after that to get the fab up and running. This is called "risk process" where you can produce things successfully, but the yields are abysmal.

The worst part is: the design of the chips has to be done according to the fab process. This is where TSMC usually shines, they give their customers tools to certify and optimize the designs for their nodes. They also pre-design IP cores, e.g. for USB, PCIe, memory etc.

Intel has a lot of work to do.
 
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Voyce

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requisitioned for a build , want to build around a three curved monitor setup with an arm to connect them - trying to keep it under $600ish and spend the rest on the PC

Suggestions?
 
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requisitioned for a build , want to build around a three curved monitor setup with an arm to connect them - trying to keep it under $600ish and spend the rest on the PC

Suggestions?

lmao
 
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Voyce

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What I’m required to splurge on Odyssey’s? There seems like there’s some reasonably cheap options out there
 

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What I’m required to splurge on Odyssey’s? There seems like there’s some reasonably cheap options out there

A good triple monitor arm is going to take 1/3 that budget, really more if you want one of those more sturdy sim ones.
 
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Voyce

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Looks like there was a crazy deal on larger monitors the other day

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Not required to go in anyone direction maybe just get a big one
 

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For sims the best thing i've seen overall value wise is 3x 55" TVs with these refracting pieces that go between them and hide the bezels.