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I've always been partial to Lian-Li cases. They aren't perfect, but the areas in which they annoy me are less important to me than the areas in any other cases I've tried. Cable management is why I prefer larger cases. Space behind the mobo tray is especially important.

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Ashamed to say I had my LED phase.

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elcaro1101

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Stuff OTW for a new system for me, pretty excited!

Everything aside from the video card, monitor, DP cable, and headset are here; so I got the build up and running last night and will drop the card in when it arrives next week. I also took care of the Win10 upgrade to get that out of the way. I was a bit sketched out going through a Reddit post/twitch donation payment method for the Win 8.1 key, but it activated without any issues. Went with the R5 case with optical bays because the system doubles as my TV show watching station, and I randomly will grab DVDs from RedBox.

Last build was from back in 2012, 3570k/8GB/660ti, so figured it was time to build again with the jump in performance of the Pascal cards. I probably could have a found a few parts a bit cheaper by ordering from separate places, but decided to make it easier and get the main system parts all from Newegg. I also could have waited for a non-founders card, but just went ahead and ordered when the 1070's showed available at Newegg. They sold out pretty quickly so wasn't sure how long I would be waiting.

CPU:Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:Zalman CNPS9500 AT($34.99 + $10 MIR @ Newegg)
Thermal Paste:Tuniq TX-1 Extreme($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:ASRock Z170 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard($99.99 + $10 MIR @ Newegg)
Memory:G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:WD Blue 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - WD10EZEX($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card:EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Ed($449.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor:DELL S2716DG - 2560x1440 @ 144 Hz($507.90 @ Amazon)
Headset:Logitech G35 7.1($64.99 @ Amazon)
4K DP Cable:DP to DP Cable, Rankie? Gold Plated($8.99 @ Amazon)
Case:Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout($99.99 @ NewEgg)
Power Supply:EVGA 210-GQ-0750-V1 750W($84.99 + $20 MIR @ NewEgg)
Optical Drive:LG 10x BR Player/DVDRW - SATA(Reuse from last build)
Operating System:Microsoft Windows 8.1 PRO, upgraded to 10 PRO($25 @ Reddit)

Shipping: $18.48
Rebates: -$40
Amazon Gift Cards: -$300

Total: $1461.79

I think I did pretty well cost-wise for a new system and pretty nice monitor, should tide me over for hopefully another four+ years. Build was pretty easy with the cable management features the case had. Am glad I went with this one and not the Rosewill I had picked out originally. Saw the R5 in Synj's post a few pages back and it just looked way too nice to skip.

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The $/GHz is right on price wise. I just didn't think that the .3GHz bump would be that noticeable, and don't really have plans to OC.

Main place I will see noticeable gains is the video card and monitor. Going from a 660ti to a 1070 is a huge leap, and my old 1080p screen is a giant POS compared to the new DELL screen.
 
mkopec

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elcaro1101.2_sl said:
The $/GHz is right on price wise. I just didn't think that the .3GHz bump would be that noticeable, and don't really have plans to OC.

Main place I will see noticeable gains is the video card and monitor. Going from a 660ti to a 1070 is a huge leap, and my old 1080p screen is a giant POS compared to the new DELL screen.
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These processors are so easy to OC its silly. My i5 2500K is still running at 4.5GHz some 4-5 yrs later. The i5 3750 I also have is running strong now for about 3 yrs at 4.3. Thats like an entire ghz faster than stock, which might not make a difference with most things, but sometimes it can make a huge difference. I dont know why people are so hesitant on overclocking. I mean, this is not your dads overclocking and the shit he had to pull with his Pentium III lol. Its literally changing one number in bios, or on some boards, fucking with a slider.
 
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Noodleface_sl said:
Nice cabling I'm jealous.

In the next year I'll be buying a new Psu and will redo mine.
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Thanks!

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These processors are so easy to OC its silly. My i5 2500K is still running at 4.5GHz some 4-5 yrs later. The i5 3750 I also have is running strong now for about 3 yrs at 4.3. Thats like an entire ghz faster than stock, which might not make a difference with most things, but sometimes it can make a huge difference. I dont know why people are so hesitant on overclocking. I mean, this is not your dads overclocking and the shit he had to pull with his Pentium III lol. Its literally changing one number in bios, or on some boards, fucking with a slider.
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It is not a difficulty issue, I would rather just put it together and have a stable system out of the gate.

I have been messing with computers since 1995, and have just outgrown the need to tweak every little thing to get the most out of them as possible. With the speed of today's components, it just seems unnecessary to me.
 
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Keep in mind that all of the early signs point to CPUs becoming more important under DirectX12 than they have been in recent years. More games will actually use multiple cores, and CPUs should start to play a larger part in gaming performance going forward over the next 5 years.

What I don't understand is why Intel doesn't just ship their CPUs at higher base clocks? If literally EVERY i5 3570k could be overclocked safely to at least 4.0ghz(and 99% of them to 4.4 ghz), why didnt Intel just ship it with a base clock of 4ghz rather than 3.4ghz?

Are they afraid that enthusiasts will complain once their CPUs are shipped at higher clock speeds and can *only* be overclocked by like 10%, rather than the 20%+ that is normal today? The net difference is still the same, and it would give a lot of people that little extra performance that would never overlock on their own.

I've been running my i5 3570k clocked up from 3.4ghz to 4.6ghz for almost 4 years now, and it still runs like a champ. It's literally 2 clicks of a mouse button in the bios to overclock it, I don't know why someone wouldn't. Otherwise you are buying a Ferrari and always keeping it 10mph under the speed limit.
 
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joeboo_sl said:
Keep in mind that all of the early signs point to CPUs becoming more important under DirectX12 than they have been in recent years. More games will actually use multiple cores, and CPUs should start to play a larger part in gaming performance going forward over the next 5 years.

What I don't understand is why Intel doesn't just ship their CPUs at higher base clocks? If literally EVERY i5 3570k could be overclocked safely to at least 4.0ghz(and 99% of them to 4.4 ghz), why didnt Intel just ship it with a base clock of 4ghz rather than 3.4ghz?

Are they afraid that enthusiasts will complain once their CPUs are shipped at higher clock speeds and can *only* be overclocked by like 10%, rather than the 20%+ that is normal today? The net difference is still the same, and it would give a lot of people that little extra performance that would never overlock on their own.

I've been running my i5 3570k clocked up from 3.4ghz to 4.6ghz for almost 4 years now, and it still runs like a champ. It's literally 2 clicks of a mouse button in the bios to overclock it, I don't know why someone wouldn't. Otherwise you are buying a Ferrari and always keeping it 10mph under the speed limit.
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probably old fashioned binning, i mean that's basically how they make money and reach their targets.
 
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elcaro1101.2_sl said:
Thanks!

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It is not a difficulty issue, I would rather just put it together and have a stable system out of the gate.

I have been messing with computers since 1995, and have just outgrown the need to tweak every little thing to get the most out of them as possible. With the speed of today's components, it just seems unnecessary to me.
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Yeah, but you can just hit a button on most motherboards these days to do it. I have a 3570K at 4.2 for 4 years now.
 
mkopec

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So I got most of the components in for my kids beastly system. Went with another motherboard because of circuit city deal. $160 gigabyte mo-bo for $100(not sure if I fucked up on that one, but well see). Plus $20 off the i5 6600K ($180). Got everything except the optical drive and the video card and the OS, its coming tomorrow, but im going to wait for the rx480 when it comes out. Also got him a 27" LG IPS 1080p screen which he fucking loves, we have it hooked up to my gaming system right now. 3 TB WD blue, 250GB Samsung SSD, 650W gold PS, 16 gig crucial ram...

The case, Corsair Spec-2 is pretty nice too, some cheap $60 mid with a window(for the kids, lol) and it came with 3 fans so it was a good deal on that too.

There needs to be some more cable management happening, but im not going to do shit until the rest of the shit comes in. Im going to install my old AMD 6850 for the time being until I can get the rx480 later this month.

The case, supposedly has red LED fans for the kids, you know, they love that shit. I also got him a razer backlit mechanical keyboard and a nice gigabyte mouse. Fucking spoiled ass kids man.

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I also had another fan to install on the top, 120mm goodwin or some shit, but I fucked up and installed the mo-bo before the fan, and I was not going to take it out for the damned fan. Oh well, hopefully the 2 front 200mm and one rear 120mm does its purpose.

I just hope I didnt fuck up on that mo-bo purchase (Z170X UD3GIGABYTE GA-Z170X-UD3 s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com). I usually go with asus, as-rock or msi. This will be my first gygabyte one I have used. I looked it up later after I bought it and its got so-so reviews. From just mounting it, the board was a bit short and did not reach the last standoffs. But the standoffs did support the board like 1/2 way so plugging in the power and stuff, it was supported, just not screwed down.

I also had a problem with the atx 12v 8 pin power plug to the processor from the power supply. Not sure whose at fault, the mo-bo or the power supply wire, but I had to shave off a bit of plastic from the power supply cable that the two plugs (2x4pin) met in the middle with a clip thingie and a stand off that the board did not accept. But I shaved it off and everything plugged in great. We will see when I power the thing up tomorrow. The kid is exited as all hell. Having a PC in his room that he can stream, make videos without the families ambient noise (us screaming at eachother, lol)
 
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I also had a problem with the atx 12v 8 pin power plug to the processor from the power supply. Not sure whose at fault, the mo-bo or the power supply wire, but I had to shave off a bit of plastic from the power supply cable that the two plugs (2x4pin) met in the middle with a clip thingie and a stand off that the board did not accept. But I shaved it off and everything plugged in great. We will see when I power the thing up tomorrow. ..
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This sounds worrisome. The plugs, regardless of manufacturer, are all on one standard. Typically, if it doesn't fit, you are using the wrong cable or trying to plug into the wrong hole. Have any pics? I would be absolutely sure on this before you attempt to power it up!!
 
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Uh, yeah, are you sure you didn't try to plug an 8-pin video card cable into the CPU power pin?
 
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Uh, yeah, are you sure you didn't try to plug an 8-pin video card cable into the CPU power pin?
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Actually, after reading some technical drawings, that's exactly what you did.

DO NOT POWER THAT THING ON.

An 8-pin GPU connector has the right-most 2 connectors joined to prevent insertion into the CPU power motherboard socket.
 
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No im sure. The PS came with 2, 8 pin video card cables, PCI-E and an 8 pin ATX which was labeled as so. So im sure it was the right one. But Like I said the cable was 2x 4 pin that met in the middle with a little clip and a standoff, and the mo bo did not have the slot for the little standoff. But when I sliced that shit off, it went in like golden, I mean the PCIE did not even fit because of the config, so it had to be the one, so well see. Its hard to take a picture of the thing. And im not unplugging it, lol.
 
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Ok, so I dont want to fuck anything up so here is the picture of the plug, and also the pci-e cables, there is a difference, lol.

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See the little area where I had to shave off? There was no slot in the mo bo to support that standoff, but all the clips match up so, IDK. And the PCI-E ones didnt, trust me I tried. I was all like WTF?


And this is the two PCI-E cables so there is a definite difference.

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Also props for being a bad ass dad. I work hard so I can buy my kid nice things. Not that my dad didn't work hard, just didn't make shit.
 
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Noodleface_sl said:
Also props for being a bad ass dad. I work hard so I can buy my kid nice things. Not that my dad didn't work hard, just didn't make shit.
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Thanks man. I know I spoil the shit out of my kids, but thats because I didnt get shit when I was growing up (My mom was poor). Time to make it up. They are both good kids, good grades and all that, so its all good.
 
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