Destiny: Rise of Iron 9.20.16

I got my ass handed to me in PVP last night too. Not really surprised, as I still fucking despise the very idea of using of a gamepad for a shooter, but still it was even worse than I expected.

Are people really playing so much already that they have the entire second row of upgrades unlocked? The other team in the last match I played had 2 titans that had a shield up all the time, and unless I'm missing something the only way to get that is from the very end of row two (the ability that gives you a shield after sprinting).

eXarc, I'll be on later. Looking to play my titan (only L3) though as I'm not really a big fan of the warlock after getting it to 8.

Vorph_sl said:

I got my ass handed to me in PVP last night too. Not really surprised, as I still fucking despise the very idea of using of a gamepad for a shooter, but still it was even worse than I expected.

Are people really playing so much already that they have the entire second row of upgrades unlocked? The other team in the last match I played had 2 titans that had a shield up all the time, and unless I'm missing something the only way to get that is from the very end of row two (the ability that gives you a shield after sprinting).

eXarc, I'll be on later. Looking to play my titan (only L3) though as I'm not really a big fan of the warlock after getting it to 8.

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My second row is nearly fully unlocked and some of my 3rd row is coming along now

Sounds good Vorph. I am just about to get my Hunter to level 8 and looking for all of the chests.


I must be misunderstanding something though, how can people unlock all of the other rows of upgrades if max level is 8? Do you get to upgrade once the experience is there without needing another level point to use? I thought each level = 1 point to spend. I am not high enough and don't have the XP for the other rows to have them unlocked just quite yet though so I could be not seeing it.

I haven't made a Titan at all yet and I am definitely going to. So far I like Hunter better than Warlock but really I do enjoy both. I prefer double jump over glide and being able to shoot in the air smoothly, for the most part though. I like Warlock's L2/R2 better than Golden Gun, but once you get higher levels they all change/get upgraded or have completely different skills so I guess I'll really have to wait until release to see which class will be my main.


Just shoot me a message or join my fireteam Vorph, I accidentally sent you an invite earlier not realizing you're not even playing - my bad. Jump in anytime.


*** My buddy is on PS3 and is dying to play with me but I gave my code away already. If anyone has an extra PS3 beta code I can trade anything I have available / will be eternally grateful!

You keep gaining xp at level 8 which continues to unlock skill/weapon/armor upgrades even though your actual level can't increase any more. Some of those abilities seem to be extremely overpowered when applied to a level 8 character, like the Titan shield. I was never even able to get their shield below 50% before they ripped me to shreds (and they both ended the match with 0 deaths). I have 3 or 4 things unlocked in the second row now, but I assumed the later ones would take so much xp to unlock that it wouldn't be feasible with level 8 content.

Charging my controller/headset while I finish mowing the lawn before it rains here, then I'll look you up in game.

How far have you guys gotten on the explore mission? I was able to find some level 20 mobs on the forgotten shore but wasn't able to get past them. I also found some level ??? hallowed mobs underground.

Also, loot chests are based on your level not the level of the mobs around them it looks like. I looted a chest down by the ??? hallowed mobs but instead of getting something level 20+ I got something level 9.

Column_sl said:

Eh? it's the rewards for when the strike is over. I've yet to see anyone not get greens that are appropriate level.

You are talking about the drops from the strike itself.

Pretty much why people farm the fuck out of the Devils lair, and use the trick I outlined above.

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Column, whats the highest dmg youve found on a weapon so far? Im just trying to figure out if im picking up lower than L8 greens or if they really lowered the base dmg on all weapons.

My level 9 weapons are all 64 attack, and I'm pretty sure the highest level 8 I've seen was 59 attack.

X X E X X_sl said:

Column, whats the highest dmg youve found on a weapon so far? Im just trying to figure out if im picking up lower than L8 greens or if they really lowered the base dmg on all weapons.

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They lowered it and nerfed some of the better guns.

62 is the highest I've seen.

I can confirm what Vorph said is correct. I've received a level 10 cloak for my Hunter, several level 9 weapons, and level 10 armor. The cloak was blue. Some of these were rewards from the strike itself, not random drops.

edit; I think the highest damage I've seen is 57-59 on primary and special weapons but I think a heavy weapon might be able to go to just above 60, like 61 or 62. Some of my level 9 weapons are about 65ish.

update: just saw a hand cannon and fusion rifle @ 62 damage, lvl 8

Do ppl just farm the strike mission over again for those drops or roam around the cosmodrome explore mode?

Column_sl said:

They lowered it and nerfed some of the better guns.

62 is the highest I've seen.

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Ah well - atleast i know i wasnt imagining things.

khorum_sl said:

Do ppl just farm the strike mission over again for those drops or roam around the cosmodrome explore mode?

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Farm strikes with the inventory trick

My character is pretty much maxed out at this point. Have the 2 best guns, best in slot everything else.

I'm going to play Titan for live.

so whats the difference between the temporarily unlocked pvp mode ("clash") and the normal one everyone plays, "control"? They both seemed to be domination/conquest/whatever-you-wanna-call-3-flag-play. The 4 locked modes seem to be

rumble - 6v6 team deathmatch it seems
combined arms - 6v6 vehicle + ground, rush mode? conquest?
skirmish - 3v3 deathmatch/domination
salvage - 3v3 capture the flag?

kinda disappointed thats all there is, although combined arms may be cool depending on what exactly they mean when they say "coordinate vehicles and your ground game to control the battlefield"

Column_sl said:

Farm strikes with the inventory trick

My character is pretty much maxed out at this point. Have the 2 best guns, best in slot everything else.

I'm going to play Titan for live.

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Ive got green everything - 100% cooldown on my grenades and 60% on my knife throw - but i still think Warlock will be my jam - im not really feeling the hunter because i know if i touch that shit that they call pvp im going to want to aerial barrage bitches!

I think I've got a 63 or 65 damage sniper rifle. I'll check when I get home.

If your sniper has a damage perk it will go up.

Like my heavy machine gun is at 62 with the damage perk leveled on the weapon. I hit the tank legs for around 300 a shot

They need to implement some anti-leave shit immediately, like a loss of lvl and can't play for an hour or some shit. About 1 in 5 games is 6v6. Otherwise it's great, minus my eyes being completely worn out for the first time since Jet Moto 2 on the PS.

I get disconnected a lot due to server issues and I imagine other people do as well. Penalties for disconnecting during a beta would be ridiculous. They might implement that in launch, but for now it makes no sense.

khorum_sl said:

Do ppl just farm the strike mission over again for those drops or roam around the cosmodrome explore mode?

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I've been mostly cosmodrome roaming picking up missions and killing shit. My grimore score is around 600 because of it. Honestly though it is getting boring and PvP is hit or miss depending on if we are facing MLG-types on the other side or average players like I would call myself. I would be interested in seeing if running a fireteam in Explore Cosmodrome mode would cause better missions/loot to appear but we need more people on. Biggest group I've had for it was just me and one other (Gator I think) so far.


To be fair I am not bored with the game, I am bored with doing the very limited content that we have during beta. Some of the blue drops look pretty cool but I can't use then at level 8 and I have seen some awesome random weapon mods that I can only get if I get a lucky random weapon drop farming Devil's Lair x 50. Kind of sucks. I want more game!

We have made some interesting tests if anyone is interested in this info.

1. Loot drops are per player. No one else sees your loot drops so go ahead and pick em all up.
2. Chest opens split the loot to everyone.. I think. We opened a chest and it gave us each the same glimmer. Not sure how it would handle gear but that's rare enough.
3. Events are random but do seem to occur more frequently based on the number of players in a given area.
4. The level 20 mobs are immune to damage. I'm not sure but I think if a mob is ?? to you it might be auto immune to your damage.
5. Ghosts appear in the same places for everyone but if you found it once already you personally won't see it again. So go ahead and show people ghost spots as you find them.
6. Same for golden chests.
7. Finding all 5 golden chests awards randomly one of the purchasable speeders that have double the speed of you starting speeder.
8. PvP and Explore Cosmodrome voice chat is limited to your fire team. No way around it at this time unless you invite randoms to your fireteam.
9. You can look at your friends list and join someones fireteam any time. I think you can turn this off if you don't want people joining on you.
10. There is a ghost in the Iron Banner area when the event is running. it's sitting on the railing.
11. The Iron Banner guy has a class item that you can wear at Iron Rank 1 (Not hard to get). Seems entirely cosmetic.
12. If the Iron Banner event ends but you are still auto queuing Iron Banner matches you can keep going until you quit. Once you quit you can't go back in until the next event.