Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

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I'm not a fan of how narrow the builds are based on the sets.

Not of fan of ring of grandeur, unity ect. Required uniques for every class. Yuck man.

I liked it better back when rares were actually sought after.
 

Vorph

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TnT doesn't fit into any builds because they all call for Marauder's gloves to be worn. It was discussed previously but of the two viable builds the only real gear difference is cold uses Pride's Fall and Marauder BP and fire uses Cindercoat and Marauder's helm.

Fire you either use Cluster w/ Loaded or (more popular) Multishot with Arsenal. Cold always uses the cluster cold AFAIK.
Don't really see many people using fire anymore, it's all cold and physical (Shooting Stars) these days. Multishot/Arsenal is a T6 speed clearing build rather than something you'd use in GRifts.

Not of fan of ring of grandeur, unity ect. Required uniques for every class. Yuck man.
I'm playing barb now on non-seasonal and the main reason I'm enjoying it is because I know that once I get the Raekor set I will never have to wear a RoRG again, since you only need five pieces and Vile Ward is the only offset piece that is better than dumping a shit ring for a SoJ. Even in a group where Unity gets dropped you still don't go back to RoRG because Bul-Kathos Wedding Ring is the next best option. Not that anyone wants to group with a barb in difficult content anyway. :p

Also, fuck Unity, whoever designed it, and the slackasses who refuse to take the time to rebalance the whole GR35+ game to accommodate a nerf to it. But we've had that discussion very recently too.
 

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Its a shame set bonuses are so powerful in this iteration of the game because it really does limit your build diversity. At least for pushing grifts. I could see something where you get M3 for all the pets, focus on Sentry%, TnT and the 3 wolves BP and have a pet damage focused build. But as it stands you either go M6 or you stop grifting at 30'ish.

I saw a suggestion on reddit that maybe next season they just get rid of all sets. It may make for a bit more interesting a game. I'm sure a "best of the best" legendary configuration would be made up but it would at least make it for some other viable options.
I really doubt it would make the game any better, it would just lower the max grift possible by like 20 levels. You still have legendaries with ability-defining effects, and then random filler for other slots. Crusaders probably would be top of the pile then though since they were designed around legendary effects from the get-go it feels like.

If anything, they need to do the opposite. Add MORE sets and MORE legendaries (which they are ever so slowly doing). It's unlikely they'll balance them well enough to prevent a "best" but they should at least add variety if you aren't legitimately trying to get the highest grift.
 

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More sets would suck. It's already a pain in the ass to complete the set you want while getting trash legs and the other sets you don't care about from Kadala. I'm not looking forward to 2.2 diluting the pool further with even just a handful of new sets.
 

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I think I have had good luck gearing up the DH so far. The current weapon I have is a 1h (which I guess is bad although I don't really understand the difference and why) but it is an ancient 1h and has 3300 dps plus a gem slot. I do have an ancient 2h crossbow but the dps is 2750 so well below the 1h. I have only been soloing GR and can clear 36 easily and can go higher but I don't know where it will top out. This is quite a change for me as my only previous character I played in solo GR was a wizard and he couldn't go above 25.

I leveled the twinking gem up to 25 and dropped it into a level 70 legendary monk weapon and made my first monk. I only played for 20 minutes last night but he hit 42 so I doubt it will take very long to get to 70 on him. That twinking gem is pretty sick. If someone has a link to monk info like they gave me for the DH, it would be appreciated.
 

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How much less fun would it be if you could craft the sets you wanted, but the crafting mats themselves were pretty rare?

To me that would be a better scenario than playing the kadala slot machine.

Takes a lot of the RNG out of the competitive scene also.

Right now It's just "Who gets better luck at kadala?" instead of any real competitive measurement.
 

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Don't really see many people using fire anymore, it's all cold and physical (Shooting Stars) these days. Multishot/Arsenal is a T6 speed clearing build rather than something you'd use in GRifts.



I'm playing barb now on non-seasonal and the main reason I'm enjoying it is because I know that once I get the Raekor set I will never have to wear a RoRG again, since you only need five pieces and Vile Ward is the only offset piece that is better than dumping a shit ring for a SoJ. Even in a group where Unity gets dropped you still don't go back to RoRG because Bul-Kathos Wedding Ring is the next best option. Not that anyone wants to group with a barb in difficult content anyway. :p

Also, fuck Unity, whoever designed it, and the slackasses who refuse to take the time to rebalance the whole GR35+ game to accommodate a nerf to it. But we've had that discussion very recently too.
Maybe I'm not seeing something but the top DH on diablo progress are MS w/ Arsenal
 

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How much less fun would it be if you could craft the sets you wanted, but the crafting mats themselves were pretty rare?

To me that would be a better scenario than playing the kadala slot machine.

Takes a lot of the RNG out of the competitive scene also.

Right now It's just "Who gets better luck at kadala?" instead of any real competitive measurement.
Seasons are so long its a marathon not a sprint. Sets are relatively easy to collect, you'll long be farming a rarer item after you've completed whatever set many times over. Also, pretty rare crafting mat? Now you're just moving the rng from kadala to a drop, same difference.
 

Vorph

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Maybe I'm not seeing something but the top DH on diablo progress are MS w/ Arsenal
The top DH on both seasonal (GR48) and non-seasonal (GR52) are both physical, Cluster with Shooting Stars.

Take what you see when you inspect someone with a grain of salt too. Like the #2 seasonal DH, Monaux, currently shows as being MS/Arsenal, but if you look closely you can see that he has Tactical Advantage equipped and no Awareness. No way in hell that's a GR48 build, so he must have been doing something easy before he logged.
 

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Phys/cold is better for min maxing. I've seen fire builds for farming and also some experimental ones for higher level group grifts but unless you're pushing the leaderboard best stick with phys/cold.
 

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I don't mind the hunt for items/sets, I just wish they had +nnn (primary stat) on them rather than specifically Dex/int/str so I could use them on other classes easier like what they did with WoW itemization.

This would be beneficial for friends/groups also who can share loot better despite being different classes with different primary stats.

Would like to craft/hunt/buy resources to influence re-rolls for specific things on items too. Batwing for +to firebats, etc.
 

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How much less fun would it be if you could craft the sets you wanted, but the crafting mats themselves were pretty rare?

To me that would be a better scenario than playing the kadala slot machine.

Takes a lot of the RNG out of the competitive scene also.

Right now It's just "Who gets better luck at kadala?" instead of any real competitive measurement.
I was thinking of something similar but instead of a rare mat it would be more like set helm + lots of existing mats = set
helm you want
 

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Seasons are so long its a marathon not a sprint. Sets are relatively easy to collect, you'll long be farming a rarer item after you've completed whatever set many times over. Also, pretty rare crafting mat? Now you're just moving the rng from kadala to a drop, same difference.
Eh I'm pretty burnt out after my 173rd rift on the same map tileset with nothing but a shitty non ancient SoJ to show for it.
 

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Eh I'm pretty burnt out after my 173rd rift on the same map tileset with nothing but a shitty non ancient SoJ to show for it.
I started getting burnt out this season when all I was looking for was a Furnace. I had to adjust the reason I was playing to be about playing with friends rather than just looking for one item.

Also, I've found 9 Ramalamadingdongs but not a single Furnace. Stupid game.
 

Vitality

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I started getting burnt out this season when all I was looking for was a Furnace. I had to adjust the reason I was playing to be about playing with friends rather than just looking for one item.

Also, I've found 9 Ramalamadingdongs but not a single Furnace. Stupid game.
I don't have any friends playing hardcore ;-(
 

Vorph

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Eh I'm pretty burnt out after my 173rd rift on the same map tileset with nothing but a shitty non ancient SoJ to show for it.
Ancient SoJ is pointless, since ancient only buffs things you don't want on a SoJ (i.e. a perfect one is 30% elite, 20% ele, 6% crit or 50% CHD, socket).

I do agree with the sentiment though. There's just so much trash in the pool that finding the good shit becomes such a chore that it's hard to carry on. My seasonal monk has found zero torches (mine was given to me), two dingdongs, one Unity, no Leoric's Crown, and some fairly average Inna's/SWK sets. I've never seen a Furnace on any character for as long as I've been playing.

I definitely understand why people use DemonBuddy at this point, even though I'd never run it myself.
 

Tenks

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Yeah feeling burnt out again myself as well. But I also don't like DH w/ Marauder's playstyle as much as I thought I would. Throwing some forward turrets down and somewhat blindly launching spenders isn't very interactive nor fun.