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Vorph

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since it's not as tanky
Wind Shear is the tankiest druid build, it's way ahead on the Pit leaderboard.

Wait, so how do you cheese it? Am I retarded and misunderstand the explanation?
Hit max enrage, log out. I make sure I'm near a safe zone (has to still be red on the map, if you run into a place that isn't part of the helltide it won't work) when it's about to hit max so that I don't get killed during the logout timer. When you log back in, you'll be stuck at max enrage until you die.
 
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popsicledeath

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I've tried a couple times to bug max hell tides and it just keeps going down. Not sure if it's platform specific or not logging out fast enough. Seems like it should be how hell tides should actually be because it's way more fun that way. I was in one of the death spirals when I hit max and it was pure, awesome carnage and took some nerve to not bail.

I'm hitting rare salvage component as a bottleneck since they're used in everything and for a while I've been leaving them on the ground. So now I'm farming for rares to salvage, which is a weird end game activity.

Have tried a couple times to swap my necro over to a no minion mist build. And have wanted to do a golem only build, but so much is lumped into the general "minion" basket and "you and minion" hat it seems better to just have all minions which is disappointing.

And have wanted to try a thorns build. Respecing is such a costly and time consuming nightmare in the game I'm thinking I'll just not bother.

This is also why the best approach is just look up a popular build and don't deviate. Which is again disappointing. I like that Diablo 4 doesn't have the uninspired class sets of +6000% damage like D3, but the current system is a slog to try out different in-class builds.

More fascinating than Star Field for analyzing the bigger picture context and stitches holding the Frankenstein of a game together, so that's neat. Definitely hitting the wall and I've still never really felt like I got to a place my character was close to fully realized mostly because of sloggy gearing.
 
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jooka

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Have been putting off playing druid, hopefully boulder actually does get fixed tomorrow
 

Juvarisx

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I've tried a couple times to bug max hell tides and it just keeps going down. Not sure if it's platform specific or not logging out fast enough. Seems like it should be how hell tides should actually be because it's way more fun that way. I was in one of the death spirals when I hit max and it was pure, awesome carnage and took some nerve to not bail.

I'm hitting rare salvage component as a bottleneck since they're used in everything and for a while I've been leaving them on the ground. So now I'm farming for rares to salvage, which is a weird end game activity.

Have tried a couple times to swap my necro over to a no minion mist build. And have wanted to do a golem only build, but so much is lumped into the general "minion" basket and "you and minion" hat it seems better to just have all minions which is disappointing.

And have wanted to try a thorns build. Respecing is such a costly and time consuming nightmare in the game I'm thinking I'll just not bother.

This is also why the best approach is just look up a popular build and don't deviate. Which is again disappointing. I like that Diablo 4 doesn't have the uninspired class sets of +6000% damage like D3, but the current system is a slog to try out different in-class builds.

More fascinating than Star Field for analyzing the bigger picture context and stitches holding the Frankenstein of a game together, so that's neat. Definitely hitting the wall and I've still never really felt like I got to a place my character was close to fully realized mostly because of sloggy gearing.

They hotfixed the helltide thing a number of hours ago.

Pretty fun game for $30 bucks on sale tbh. One shot complaints are whatever they are probably worse in PoE or feel worse I guess, I think some build defining uniques would help it along....people love strange builds that work cause of x item.
 
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Chris

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Hit 100 for the first time!

At Pit 55, should be able to get to 60 without any problems.

Haven't Masterworked anything yet, waiting for a good item but haven't upgraded anything in 20 levels and Greater Affixes just seem to hit health mostly.

Build guides seem like shit, leaderboards don't seem to reflect the stuff on maxroll etc. I feel like there's not enough people playing for good guides to come out? Needs a good forum like PoE has.
 
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Vorph

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They hotfixed the helltide thing a number of hours ago.
Negative.

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Been doing it all afternoon and just standing in town right now it's not going down.

I've tried a couple times to bug max hell tides and it just keeps going down. Not sure if it's platform specific or not logging out fast enough.
99% likely that it's not logging out fast enough. Gamepad is much slower to get to the menu compared to just hitting escape with m/k. Simplest is to just get near a town that's part of the helltide though and be right at the gate when you hit max. Run inside and log out instantly. Iron Wolf Camp is the spot I use most of the time and it always works.
 
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Leadsalad

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Mine bugged out Friday or something, I had to go and look up what happened on Sunday. Mine was triggered by I think me transitioning zones while it tried to spawn the final champion and failing, circle appeared, fire, but no mob and then it all vanished. Then I got stuck back at full wanted level and it stopped going down.
 

Burns

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Wind Shear is the tankiest druid build, it's way ahead on the Pit leaderboard.\
Since I didn't Werenado very far into 100, I was just going on Maxroll rating Wind Sheer less tanky and that Goblin Inc streamer comments that it's not a close range build, but I guess he could just mean that because he put "damage to distant" on all his tempers. At level 55 Pit, I was starting to need to run away to funnel mobs, and not just face tank everything, with Wind Sheer. So kinda made sense.
 

Mur

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Hit 100 on my Pulverize Druid, working on getting my Wolfnado build. Tempest Roar is a myth. Also hit 71 with my Thorns barbarian; pretty fun exploding everything and taking zero damage.
 

Chris

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What's the deal with the leaderboard? I cleared the southern area and got about 180k then explored after the timer ran out and found a northern area.

I guess there's a loop you have to do going south then north then south hitting the revive pylons to get 600k? Then pray for keys to drop?

Trying to decide if it's worth pushing further or uninstalling until the next miracle patch.
 

Burnem Wizfyre

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I managed an extra shako and Tyraels might, both can be worn at 35 if you don’t masterwork them. Druid I’m leveling up in helltide for rep is unkillable, was doing the bugged threat shit and batteries on controller died and I couldn’t find any for like 2 minutes and the Druid still had 75% life.
 
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Chris

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I managed an extra shako and Tyraels might, both can be worn at 35 if you don’t masterwork them. Druid I’m leveling up in helltide for rep is unkillable, was doing the bugged threat shit and batteries on controller died and I couldn’t find any for like 2 minutes and the Druid still had 75% life.
Cool what's the Druid build?
 

TheBeagle

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How do these type of games play on consoles? I have always ran them on my PC but this might be a little much for my 7 yr old potato. Looks like I'm going to be stuck at home most of the week and can't find anything fun to play on Gamepass, thought this might be worth a couple dozen hours if it plays ok with a controller.
 

Tmac

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How do these type of games play on consoles? I have always ran them on my PC but this might be a little much for my 7 yr old potato. Looks like I'm going to be stuck at home most of the week and can't find anything fun to play on Gamepass, thought this might be worth a couple dozen hours if it plays ok with a controller.

I would never play this kind of mouse-click spam on PC, bc I just don’t like the feeling. So, it’s been perfect for me playing w a controller in that regard.
 
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Burnem Wizfyre

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I like it on the controller rather it’s the ROG Ally or the Xbox, some issues are like bone prison on the necro is a pain in the ass but honestly if I played on pc I’d probably Bluetooth a controller to play it.
 
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Burns

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How do these type of games play on consoles? I have always ran them on my PC but this might be a little much for my 7 yr old potato. Looks like I'm going to be stuck at home most of the week and can't find anything fun to play on Gamepass, thought this might be worth a couple dozen hours if it plays ok with a controller.
It runs "fine" on my GTX970 on the medium preset (over 30 FPS 95% of the time).

If you have an Xbox, I think it may be on gamepass now for both?
 
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Vorph

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Since I didn't Werenado very far into 100, I was just going on Maxroll rating Wind Sheer less tanky and that Goblin Inc streamer comments that it's not a close range build, but I guess he could just mean that because he put "damage to distant" on all his tempers. At level 55 Pit, I was starting to need to run away to funnel mobs, and not just face tank everything, with Wind Sheer. So kinda made sense.
IIRC the maxroll build isn't the completely optimized version that aceofspades made to top the Pit ranks. This is what I based my druid off of:

Sadly, they discovered some new bugged interaction between Landslide and Lightning Storm which looks like it's going to become the best once he gets the gear rolled for it. Pretty much done with druid anyway though. Compared to my other two characters it just feels weak and it's clunky to play with only having Godslayer Helm to pull enemies together. 12 second cooldown plus the requirement of a lucky hit followed by a second successful freeze/stun/immob roll feels bad.

How do these type of games play on consoles? I have always ran them on my PC but this might be a little much for my 7 yr old potato. Looks like I'm going to be stuck at home most of the week and can't find anything fun to play on Gamepass, thought this might be worth a couple dozen hours if it plays ok with a controller.
It's mostly great with the controller, just a few annoyances that make me pick up the mouse to do instead. Looting can suck at times. There's no way to 'scroll' through the shit on the ground, and no loot filter to hide the garbage in the first place. All it does is prioritize by rarity, which is fine most of the time, but when there's one of the seasonal potions or a profane mindcage on the ground and you want to pick it up, good luck getting it without picking up all the yellow gear on the ground near it first. Same goes for trying to pick up boss summoning mats, since for some reason they are lower priority than yellow gear.

Second problem is mobility skills and targeting in general. You can pretty much forget about using stuff like Leap as it almost never targets what you want to leap onto. Charge works better, but still goes the wrong way sometimes. Definitely glad I switched my Barb to bash instead of dust devils, since bash build only uses shouts and no leap/charge. It's not just those skills either, for example using my golem's activation ability is supposed to make him annihilate a pack of mobs I grouped up, but occasionally I'll use it and the idiot will run the other way and waste it on a single mob in the corner. (Possible that's just shitty pet AI and not strictly a controller issue though.)

And finally, everything in the UI will take longer to do. Inventory management, selling, crafting... all of it can be done much faster with the mouse.

Bottom line is it's great for general gameplay, but it would really annoy me not to have the option to pick up the mouse (game switches input instantly) and do what I need to do quickly with it instead. Main reason I haven't bothered installing the game on my Series X too.
 
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Vorph

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Patch hit, thought for sure that this line would also mean the helltide cheese was dead, but nope. Still working same as before.
  • Fixed an issue where Threat progress could become permanently locked if the player exited Helltide while Threat was near zero
 
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jooka

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This dev teams incompetence level continues to rise no matter how much good things they actually do get done.
 
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