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Pretty sure there's no difference in GA drops regardless of level. All you need to be in is an area which guarantees 925 drops, and helltide will always be the best due to sheer volume, plus the fact that maiden (and loot goblins) can drop ubers. And high pits are probably the worst place of all to farm drops, all you want from there is MW materials and the best is always to do whatever the highest multiple of 5 minus 1 (so 84, 89, 94, 99, etc.) that you can do in like 3 minutes.
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I'm pretty locked in on 89. Go to 90, and I am looking at the same time clear as if I did 89 twice. PLUS I will probably get a shitty boss 2/3 times.
 
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I'm pretty locked in on 89. Go to 90, and I am looking at the same time clear as if I did 89 twice. PLUS I will probably get a shitty boss 2/3 times.
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Yeah, the increase to hp and whatever else scales with tier at the 5's is kind of absurd, and all you get for your effort is +1 neathiron.
 
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Vorph said:
Pretty sure there's no difference in GA drops regardless of level. All you need to be in is an area which guarantees 925 drops, and helltide will always be the best due to sheer volume, plus the fact that maiden (and loot goblins) can drop ubers. That's why I switched to leveling my rogue in NMDs when I couldn't yet force helltide level to go high enough to guarantee 925 drops, because there's nothing worse than getting a really good 2 or 3 GA item that rolled 840. I ended up staying there until all the glyphs hit 21 just because doing NMDs is pure ass cancer when you're already 100.

And high pits are probably the worst place of all to farm drops, all you want from there is MW materials and the best is always to do whatever the highest multiple of 5 minus 1 (so 84, 89, 94, 99, etc.) that you can do in like 3 minutes.
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By doing this you have to level your wolf rep at max level, which to me is so much less effecient I refuse to do it.

Also, I've done 15 tormented Duriels and spent HOURS in the helltide and never seen an uber. My friend who has played less than me has every single uber.

They've got the RNG turned so low it's fucking retarded.
 
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I didn’t mention rep bc it sounds like it’s the same. You’re basically farming items and xp (for your non 100’s) instead of farming good items and xp for the same rep. Like I said, there’s no reason to ever be in a lower tier.
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Not exactly, again, the loot at WT4 is worthless for the 50s and 60s if you have worked on your rep. The chests in WT2 give much more rep (WT4 = 840 rep, WT2 = 1200 rep per 2 zone Helltide) so opening WT4 chests is worth very little until you get to the 70s w/ a mindcage. Only the XP in WT 3/4 really makes the difference, so you can just jump back and forth when you have the cinders.

Now I could see a situation to be in lower tier, even if you unlocked the higher one. That's mainly if you are dying all the time because there are too many mobs that are 30+ levels higher and swarming your ass because you bugged it out. Where you could handle the swarms in WT 3, you might get more XP keeping the bug up, verses it getting reset every so often because you died.

Most of my WT4 deaths were from too many people at Maiden making a bunch of shit turn into 1 shot mechanics (combined with being lazy) and people spawning a Hellborne at Maiden (which would 1 shot me most of the time). Even with those deaths, leveling Helltides was very fast and I would rather be in Nightmare dungeons as little as possible. Waiting till 90+ for leveling runes meant I could do higher NM keys, which meant fewer NM dungeons.
 
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Edit: I guess I am on ignore, since this will be the third time going over this...
Not exactly, again, the loot at WT4 is worthless for the 50s and 60s if you have worked on your rep. The chests in WT2 give much more rep (WT4 = 840 rep, WT2 = 1200 rep per 2 zone Helltide) so opening WT4 chests is worth very little until you get to the 70s w/ a mindcage. Only the XP in WT 3/4 really makes the difference, so you can just jump back and forth when you have the cinders.

Now I could see a situation to be in lower tier, even if you unlocked the higher one. That's mainly if you are dying all the time because there are too many mobs that are 30+ levels higher and swarming your ass because you bugged it out. Where you could handle the swarms in WT 3, you might get more XP keeping the bug up, verses it getting reset every so often because you died.

Most of my WT4 deaths were from too many people at Maiden making a bunch of shit turn into 1 shot mechanics (combined with being lazy) and people spawning a Hellborne at Maiden (which would 1 shot me most of the time). Even with those deaths, leveling Helltides was very fast and I would rather be in Nightmare dungeons as little as possible. Waiting till 90+ for leveling runes meant I could do higher NM keys, which meant fewer NM dungeons.
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Missed this before apparently.

In other news I think I'm reaching the end of the road in Diablo. I'm maxed out on ~90 pits, I've gotten zero uber drops, and I just bricked a 2 GA hammer that got zero rolls I needed.

Thinking about how to actually progress in the end-game leaves me thinking I'll need to spend billions of gold and I'm not willing to do that.
 
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Missed this before apparently.

In other news I think I'm reaching the end of the road in Diablo. I'm maxed out on ~90 pits, I've gotten zero uber drops, and I just bricked a 2 GA hammer that got zero rolls I needed.

Thinking about how to actually progress in the end-game leaves me thinking I'll need to spend billions of gold and I'm not willing to do that.
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More than welcome to come on some Uber Duriel runs tonight broski.
 
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Discoverer's Delight, Mother's Blessing. Boy, Blizzard really knows how to speed up the process of quitting their games sooner.
 
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Blizzard really knows how to speed up the process of quitting their games sooner.
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Eh, Mother's Blessing is better than nothing but XP is already trivial, and it's no accident that the gold boost only affects enemy drops which are a drop in the bucket compared to what you get from selling legendaries and farming whisper caches.
 
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Tmac said:
Missed this before apparently.

In other news I think I'm reaching the end of the road in Diablo. I'm maxed out on ~90 pits, I've gotten zero uber drops, and I just bricked a 2 GA hammer that got zero rolls I needed.

Thinking about how to actually progress in the end-game leaves me thinking I'll need to spend billions of gold and I'm not willing to do that.
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Part of the point of maxing the wolf rep grind is making Ubers, if you are unlucky in getting them. It doesn't take all that long to level to mid 70s, and by then, if you are maxing the rep, you would be done. You already have 2 sparks at least, 1 from max rep on your character and 1 from killing Tormented Duriel the first time. So only 2 more toons to max rep and you got yourself an uber.
 
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Half the point of maxing the wolf rep grind is making Ubers, if you are unlucky in getting them. It doesn't take all that long to level to mid 70s, and by then, if you are maxing the rep, you would be done. You already have 2 sparks at least, 1 from max rep on your character and 1 from killing Tormented Duriel the first time. So only 2 more toons to max rep and you got yourself an uber.
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I have 3 max rep characters and dusted a Doombringer for my uber helm.

I've run ~20 Tormented Duriel and spent atleast 60 hours in the helltide and another ~10 hours in NMD/bosses. I've never seen an Uber drop.

My buddy that I play with has every Uber. It's fkn retarded.
 
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Tmac said:
I have 3 max rep characters and dusted a Doombringer for my uber helm.

I've run ~20 Tormented Duriel and spent atleast 60 hours in the helltide and another ~10 hours in NMD/bosses. I've never seen an Uber drop.

My buddy that I play with has every Uber. It's fkn retarded.
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Your friend got retardedly lucky there.

No idea how much time I've spent playing, but also have 3 max rep level 100 characters with full level 15 runes for 1 spec (2 specs on druid)(how ever many NM that takes), ~13 Tormented Duriels, and worked up to level 58 Pit. The only Uber I have seen was from my first normal Duriel.

You should have 1 spark left over though, so only 3 toons to 75 will get you another uber! Not that I would recommend it. I sat at 4 sparks for a long time, because none of the specs I was playing used a second uber outside of the helm.
 
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Crafted my Harlequin Crest today and started a Sorc. Not sure I like the Flamewall build, feels like its very slow coming from Necro Minions and Barbarian.

Whats a good build for leveling besides that one?
 
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Crafted my Harlequin Crest today and started a Sorc. Not sure I like the Flamewall build, feels like its very slow coming from Necro Minions and Barbarian.

Whats a good build for leveling besides that one?
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Incinerate. 1 mouse button leveling.
 
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I didn’t mention rep bc it sounds like it’s the same. You’re basically farming items and xp (for your non 100’s) instead of farming good items and xp for the same rep. Like I said, there’s no reason to ever be in a lower tier.

So yeah, I read your posts and you’re just being illogical about the whole thing. Getting mad at me doesn’t change that, but I hope it makes you feel better to call me names, lol.
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No, you dumb fucking retard. I'm not farming lower XP and items on non-100s. I very clearly stayed several times it was method I used ony 100 because I got behind on rep and it was fast gains.

I point out a method to intentionally farm rep faster late game. You make 19 unrelated statements because you think like a bitch and can't read. I repeatedly point out the method is for farming rep at 100 and that it seems faster. You say yeah but you're basically farming lower XP and items and the rep is the same.

How does a rational human mind even counter with something so irrelevant? The rep gain at 100 isn't faster because the items you don't want at 100 are lower level.... Brilliant.

The rate of rep gain isn't the same, and at a certain point one isn't needing XP or even items, or may want to knock out rep as fast as possible even if they aren't 100.

And your big counter argument is to whine like a literal bitch, declare my argument illogical when you can't even seem to understand it much less provide relevant reasoning, and then make an emotional argument about being mad and boohoo calling you names.

Don't worry, I'm not mad at you. I'm annoyed you're a fucking moron making shit up or being intentionally obtuse.

You're a black woman, aren't you? Keep on slaying, qween.
 
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No, you dumb fucking retard. I'm not farming lower XP and items on non-100s. I very clearly stayed several times it was method I used ony 100 because I got behind on rep and it was fast gains.

I point out a method to intentionally farm rep faster late game. You make 19 unrelated statements because you think like a bitch and can't read. I repeatedly point out the method is for farming rep at 100 and that it seems faster. You say yeah but you're basically farming lower XP and items and the rep is the same.

How does a rational human mind even counter with something so irrelevant? The rep gain at 100 isn't faster because the items you don't want at 100 are lower level.... Brilliant.

The rate of rep gain isn't the same, and at a certain point one isn't needing XP or even items, or may want to knock out rep as fast as possible even if they aren't 100.

And your big counter argument is to whine like a literal bitch, declare my argument illogical when you can't even seem to understand it much less provide relevant reasoning, and then make an emotional argument about being mad and boohoo calling you names.

Don't worry, I'm not mad at you. I'm annoyed you're a fucking moron making shit up or being intentionally obtuse.

You're a black woman, aren't you? Keep on slaying, qween.
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You're unhinged my friend. Totally illogical.
 
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HOTFIX 2 - June 7, 2024 - 1.4.1

HOTFIX 2 - JUNE 7, 2024 - 1.4.1 March of the Goblins General The spawn rate of Goblins during the Event has been increased. Legendary Treasure Bags The chance for Treasure bags to drop has been increased. Overall Loot quality has been improved Players will now receive more Legendary...
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March of the Goblins​


General
  • The spawn rate of Goblins during the Event has been increased.

Legendary Treasure Bags
  • The chance for Treasure bags to drop has been increased.

Overall Loot quality has been improved
  • Players will now receive more Legendary Items, Uniques, a Scattered Prism and even a chance for bonus Scattered Prisms.
  • Treasure goblins that are level 80 and above will now always drop iPower 925 items.

Bug Fixes
  • Fixed an issue where Treasure Goblins over level 100 did not drop loot of the intended quality.
  • Fixed an issue where Helltide Threat could be locked at max if the player logged out while Hellmarked.
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seems like helltide bug actually did get fixed this time,
 
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You're unhinged my friend. Totally illogical.
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Remember when I was talking about being max level just trying to finish the iron wolf rep and you can't read so you posted some dumb shit about helping me get through capstone dungeons? That's what started all this. Because you're so fucking dumb you couldn't even figure out I was dropping down to WT2 to farm rep and rep alone despite me explaining exactly that. And instead of just saying that you misunderstood, you kept arguing even dumber, more irrelevant things. You're one of the dumbest mother fuckers in the more complicated topics like politics, but I thought at least basic English language regarding a video game would be within your grasp.
 
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