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Leadsalad

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BoozeCube said:
Linear scaling, and actually having the devs play their own game.
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Yeah, I was wondering how offended the arpg crowd would feel if you stripped all of their gear and uniques of anything % based and went down to simple additive +fixed stat/damage values. The feeling of power gains would disappear immediately. Would people still play the game when they get gear and now their end game character is only doing an extra 500 damage/hit over their starting character? Have we been too conditioned into huge exponential gains by all of the popular games?
 
BoozeCube

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Leadsalad said:
Yeah, I was wondering how offended the arpg crowd would feel if you stripped all of their gear and uniques of anything % based and went down to simple additive +fixed stat/damage values. The feeling of power gains would disappear immediately. Would people still play the game when they get gear and now their end game character is only doing an extra 500 damage/hit over their starting character? Have we been too conditioned into huge exponential gains by all of the popular games?
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People are still playing Diablo 2 today.
 
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Chris

Chris

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Leadsalad said:
I was thinking about this the other day. Are there any systems that aren’t like this? How do you make things harder level by level in a AoE mob farming game without making things become exponential?
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Khane

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Leadsalad said:
Whole ‘nother can of weird that people are still playing that game.
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Not really when there are a slew of very good mods out there that have basically modernized it.

Project Diablo 2 is an excellent online mod with a pretty large playerbase. And it resets this Friday.
 
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Byr

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Leadsalad said:
Yeah, I was wondering how offended the arpg crowd would feel if you stripped all of their gear and uniques of anything % based and went down to simple additive +fixed stat/damage values. The feeling of power gains would disappear immediately. Would people still play the game when they get gear and now their end game character is only doing an extra 500 damage/hit over their starting character? Have we been too conditioned into huge exponential gains by all of the popular games?
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Basically how PoE started. Back in the release days you couldn't go over 20kish dps or you'd 1 shot yourself to reflect packs. Stayed that way just about all the way until 2.0 then they started to introduce retarded scaling and the number chasers flocked to it. Really it's not the damage value that matters, it's just the feeling of being powerful these retards are chasing. If you do 500 damage to the mobs 5 health you would just need to give them some other way to feel fulfilled like a kills count. You'd then replace dps with kills per minute or something similar.
 
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Fucker

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moonarchia

moonarchia

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I am just bad at spiritborn apparently. T1 is just raping me. Time to roll necro minion build for now.
 
moonarchia

moonarchia

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Necro is 29 from just running around and getting Altars of Lilith from Scosglen. Probably do the same in next zone tonight.
 
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moonarchia

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3 more zones' worth of altars done. Just the last one left. And the new zone if they ever unfucked those. Necro is 45.
 
moonarchia

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Kalaar kururuc said:
If i arrived at an altar location and it was bugged, I logged out then back in, and it fixed the bug.
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It has been a few days since I tried any of them, but I tried that and it didn't help at all. I think there may have been an update since then, so I will try it out after necro hits 60. I am about halfway through altars in 5th zone. This will also unlock my last skill point for all toon, so that is nice. I am up to 110 paragon, so there's that too. Looking forward to building summoner up.
 
zombiewizardhawk

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Aazrael said:
But the game has the same problem as before, what to do after you kill the hardest boss in 1 seconds? Thats right, you go back to PoE or whatever other game you currently play.
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That's the same for every game, though... What do you do 2 weeks into a poe league when you've made a build or a couple builds and you have done 4000 2second t17 map clears? Play something else til next league.
 
Aazrael

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zombiewizardhawk said:
That's the same for every game, though... What do you do 2 weeks into a poe league when you've made a build or a couple builds and you have done 4000 2second t17 map clears? Play something else til next league.
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Yea thats fair. But they could need some harder content for those that really min/max and farm.

I never do the Uber stuff in PoE myself. But it is there for those who want the challenge.

The game is in a pretty good spot now as a base game to build upon though. I really enjoyed this Season and maybe not so much the "expansion".

The Spirit Born being a bugged mess damage wise probably made stuff too easy too.
 
Chris

Chris

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zombiewizardhawk said:
That's the same for every game, though... What do you do 2 weeks into a poe league when you've made a build or a couple builds and you have done 4000 2second t17 map clears? Play something else til next league.
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The time and effort to get there is much more in PoE.
 
Aazrael

Aazrael

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Yea getting "finished" in D4 is a bit too quick. Granted the Spirit Born is a bugged mess so maybe it was even quicker on that character.

D3 was worse though as you got the set item reward and got to high difficulty right away.
 
moonarchia

moonarchia

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Aazrael said:
Yea getting "finished" in D4 is a bit too quick. Granted the Spirit Born is a bugged mess so maybe it was even quicker on that character.

D3 was worse though as you got the set item reward and got to high difficulty right away.
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Ok, got all altars done. Necro is 52. I finally figured out this summoner build. Curse, then spam the summon button to make priest keep healing and buffing the skellington crew. Also just got a chesticle with +2 warriors and +2 mages, so my minions are now 100% awesomer.
 
Tmac

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moonarchia said:
Ok, got all altars done. Necro is 52. I finally figured out this summoner build. Curse, then spam the summon button to make priest keep healing and buffing the skellington crew. Also just got a chesticle with +2 warriors and +2 mages, so my minions are now 100% awesomer.
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What’s ya username? I’ll add ya.
 
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