Doctor Who

moontayle_sl said:

Given the closure inherent to that storyline, I'd be surprised if that was ever pulled off. Most of the things I've read concerning the Doctor's regeneration is that they've thrown the idea of a limited number out the window. A key to this is his casual use of regeneration power to heal River in Angels Take Manhattan. She seemed concern over the use but he did it without a second thought which could be seen in one of two lights, the first of which is that it doesn't matter and the second of which is that he doesn't care. The first would imply a near infinite number while the second would imply that he has a lot more to go before giving that away could be seen as a problem.

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Yeah. They're never going to write out the Doctor due to regeneration. The Master ran out a long, long time ago. And it's fairly safe to assume the restrictions were completely removed during the Last Great Time-War since Rassilon, The Master, and many others were resurrected, and in the case of "The heart of the war" they were resurrected billions upon billions of time. Or at least that's what the Partisan claimed before Rassilon killed her.

i was watching the docs they have on BBCA about the former doctors. most of these episodes i have never seen. when they showed the original Master i was like holy shit who is that badass motherfucker? and then they said thats The Master and i was like goddamn, why did they turn such an epic baddie into a psychotic overacting douchebag? the original Master had a sweet beard too.

That is the original Master, Roger Delgado who was pretty much the perfect villain. He shows up in most of the 3rd Doctor stories from his second year until the untimely death of the actor.

Delgado was a badass. Ainsley was a little flamboyant at times and wasnt as enjoyable watching imo, need to see every episode he is in to gauge properly. Roberts was a decent one for 12 minutes. Sims had his moments in his short stint, but yes he was a psycho. So much could have been done with the psychosis if they toned it down by half

also that makes 2 members that post on this forum that have confused characters (Chuk above, which is somewhat understandable as he has seen so few Classic Who episodes. and Okapi on FSR saying that Suhtek was Omegahttp://www.rerolled.org/showthread.p...l=1#post213425). im a stickler for details, its my most annoying quality

yeah Qhue had the right one. still the other guy looked and acted cool too. kinda like Ming The Merciless updated. i need to go back and catch up on all 800 episodes. i stopped at Hartnell doctor because there are gaps in episodes and stupid me i thought they would be added , i had no idea the missing episodes are probably lost to history. i tried watching the Marco Polo storyline but the way they used stills instead of actual footage was a bit weird. this summer ill try again. some of those stories look badass. i watched most of the baker era as a kid but i can barely remember any of them anymore.

Maester Chuk_sl said:

yeah Qhue had the right one. still the other guy looked and acted cool too. kinda like Ming The Merciless updated. i need to go back and catch up on all 800 episodes. i stopped at Hartnell doctor because there are gaps in episodes and stupid me i thought they would be added , i had no idea the missing episodes are probably lost to history. i tried watching the Marco Polo storyline but the way they used stills instead of actual footage was a bit weird. this summer ill try again. some of those stories look badass. i watched most of the baker era as a kid but i can barely remember any of them anymore.

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"Between about 1964 and 1973, large amounts of older material stored in the BBC's various video tape and film libraries were either destroyed,[note 2] wiped or suffered from poor storage which led to severe deterioration from broadcast quality. This included many old episodes of Doctor Who, mostly stories featuring the first two Doctors: William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton. In all, 106 of 253 episodes produced during the first six years of the programme are not held in the BBC's archives (most notably seasons 3, 4, & 5, from which 88 episodes are missing). In 1972, almost all episodes then made were known to exist at the BBC,[46] while by 1978 the practice of wiping tapes and destroying 'spare' film copies had been brought to a stop."

they are still trying to find any remants in other countries or people that recorded the to VHS to try and restore them

Shittily enough, those Doctors Revisited docs have the most widely available episodes. I dvr'd them and i have seen every episode they will probably use already on Netflix. If BBCA had any balls, they would show Trial of a Time Lord in its entirety for 6th, but they will probably use Vengance on Varos. Also Remembrance of the Daleks or Battlefield for 7th

lol, I really hope they show Trial. Then we'll have quite a few nerds realizing neither Gibson or Neo were in the first Matrix

As to the Master, well at least the older one, how often back in the pre-Eccleston era did the Master die/regenerate? Was he always the same regeneration through the years with the actor change or is the Master one of the few, if only, to regenerate and still maintain the same basic appearence / personality?

Asmadai_sl said:

As to the Master, well at least the older one, how often back in the pre-Eccleston era did the Master die/regenerate? Was he always the same regeneration through the years with the actor change or is the Master one of the few, if only, to regenerate and still maintain the same basic appearence / personality?

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I don't think that he did regenerate, he ran out pretty early so he started possessing people somehow until he was apparently given a new set in the Time War.

Asmadai_sl said:

As to the Master, well at least the older one, how often back in the pre-Eccleston era did the Master die/regenerate? Was he always the same regeneration through the years with the actor change or is the Master one of the few, if only, to regenerate and still maintain the same basic appearence / personality?

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He showed up the first time during his 13th regeneration and was out of further ones. He found a couple of ways around that, though, and DID regenerate once, when he got the 3 artifacts of Rassilon (robe key and orb, I wanna say) which let him open the eye of harmony, bathe in the temporal radiation, and regenerate into himself, basically. It's up for debate if that gave him a new "set" of regenerations, but it was suggested it had. The Who producers, however, have said this rule doesn't really count anymore, so who the fuck knows. But yeah, he was always the same guy, even when actors changed. It wasn't until the TV movie/newWho that he was anything other than the utter badass, goatee havin' bastard of the past. Also, side note, he was always held up as the Doctor's equal in mind, but some of his early plans (The Sea Devils come to mind) were...flimsy, at best. Like, trying to take over the world with 3 monsters about the size of normal humans, or just blatantly latching onto someone's plan and just going for the ride. He did, however, have the same superpower as the Joker, and always lived, one way or another.

Great post. One caveat to what TheOkapi said is that the Master was offered a new set of regenerations if he helped the Doctor in "The Five Doctors" and he said a strange line..."That a Universe without the Doctor is scarcely worth living in" indicating he would help without reward. However it turned out that Barusa who made the offer was also the baddie....

So while The Master was always a backstabbing devil, there was also always something else going on. They originally had intended to "redeem" the Master a few times, the first time however the actor died in a car accident and out of respect they didn't use the character for a long while. The 2nd time was the Cartmel Master Plan, which was abandoned but we kinda saw that with the new Master sacrificing his life for the Doctor's. Although personally I think he went back into the rift finished killing Rassilon and took over the Time Lords.

But ultimately he was always supposed to be Moriarity to the Doctor's Sherlock.


PS One final thing I always liked. The Rani was TERRIFIED of the Master. Always thought that was cool as it was an indication that the Doctor may be one of the few Time Lords not scared by him. There was a great ep which I can't recall the name of where The Rani is working on these bugs that can control people and the Master saunters in and just starts helping himself.

Jait_sl said:

the Master was offered a new set of regenerations if he helped the Doctor in "The Five Doctors"

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There are many theories on how he got from Eric Roberts to Derek Jacobi. From stealing other Time Lords regenerations to getting an unlimited amount during the time war, to just body hopping until he go a few regenerations

Was the 1980s Doctor Who rubbish? The BBC looks into it although they may be somewhat biasedhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22628484

Survival is still considered pretty good. I also liked almost any ep with Ace. But yeah, by and large it was shite in the 80s. Where I lived they showed reruns of the 4th and 5th Doctor episodes during the 80s on UHF rather than the new ones.

I think it was McCoy who said that the showrunner was an asshole and was trying to get the show cancelled or wasnt trying hard enough to make the show good which lead to the end. Also, it had a lot of Anti Thatcher messages. A lot of turmoil during those years.


Edit: now that Ive read the article, I may have mixed shit up, but i wish i could remember the interview that had McCoy bad talking the higher ups on DW. could have sworn that he ripped Nathan-Turner a new one in it. Could have been Colin Baker too, he was not happy with the multi color coat.

The hints are getting rather heavy handed now (Official BBC video)

Typical BBC/BBCA. Of all the episodes they could pick, they pick the only one that is on Netflix Instant

http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2013/...th-doctor.html

I was curious as to how much is missing from netflix?