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eXarc

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Oh interesting. Combined with the backpack changes it looks like it can be much more action oriented in the offlanes and jungle now. Sounds good.
 

Gravel

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I honestly can't figure out much without being able to get in game (and not going to download test client).

Anyway, I doubt we'll see jungle heroes because the respawn is 2 minutes now. Although, there are also 4 jungles now.
 

xzi

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I can't believe I've been playing this game for 10 fuckin years

I'm more than happy that they want the game to get to the action quicker now though, this update is huge. Plus passive gold for support?!?! yes pls
 

Zaphid

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If you played Heroes of the Storm, they're basically moonwells, kinda. Basically, they're small buildings in the jungle that when right click, provide an aoe that gives very high regen(like fountain kinda). Cd is 5mins (it's a cd on the building so for the whole team) and they have backdoor protection until T2s are down I think? Or T1 not sure. Seems very useful for jungling or for offlaning(there's one right next to the secret shop for offlaners).
Additionally, they give no vision, but are valid target for TP (which doesn't break trees anymore) and are last buildings standing until all your T2s are down.

Basically, you still have map control until you lose all T2s. Say goodbye to going high ground before you clean them up.
 

eXarc

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There are T2s in each (2nd wave/tier of towers) and typically it applies to all or maybe in this case the closest to it.
 

Genjiro

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Saw this in wagas stream but Antimage with Aghs is interesting where it blocks the spell and returns it. Even stuff that worked before, like juggernaut omnislash going thru linkens....well now jugg will do it (and the animation) but it still gets blocked for 0 dmg and then AM omnis him back.

Pretty sure since AM has his aghs that it also returns the ability as an aghs upgrade too even if the other player has no aghs.
 

Genjiro

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Its interactions are definitely different than Lotus. Lotus with Omni would end up doing this weird dance where neither hero took damage.

Now, AM basically counters Juggs omni, and activates a NEW omni after Juggs animation is finished....getting the omni dmg on the Jugg and pretty sure it upgrades the Omni to an Aghs omnislash.

He tried it with stuff like Duel too, but you didnt get double the duel damage or anything crazy, so it will be fun to test it out.
 

Intrinsic

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oh shit that is crazy. Waga is playing Monkey King for the first time and it is against ixmike and it is hilarious. Hero seems so broke right now.
 

Pyros

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If you want a defensive item to counter single target stuff, that AM agh is definitely superior to both linken and lotus. Although obviously, you have to build it yourself(or you went full retard and you also have alchemist on your team and he gives it to you with the farm he's been stealing from you). It's not bkb for stun heavy lineups though, but against single target annoying shit like lasso and roar it seems fairly OP, and the stats while bad for damage are fairly decent for tanking.
 

Intrinsic

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Am I blind or is there not a k/d/a icon somewhere on the screen? I don't play but I watch streams and i'm curious how it's going when I bounce around.

Oh, apparently you only see it when you hold ALT. Then it shows your CS, K/D/A, and STR, AGI, INT.
 

Dandain

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One of the known dota2 workshop artists mocked this up under feedback. It will probably be like this within a few days

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Mao

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So, first experiences just a couple random games on the test server, Monkey King seems pretty fucking broke. Unless you can maybe get flying vision, he's completely invisible when he's in a tree. Only way to get him is to chop the tree down. Sentries don't seem to reveal him and he can just hop from tree to tree. So, killing him in the laning phase can be quite difficult without good stun. Think time walk that just takes you off the map entirely.

He also has an attack that, after you hit someone four times at level one gives you 80 bonus damage and 20% lifesteal on your next four attacks. Now, this also affects his Q. A stun that does 200% guaranteed true strike crit damage on all units in a line with a range similar to Earthshakers Fissure.

The time on having to get four hits on you is not consecutive unlike troll. You can hit other heros, then come back to hit the one. And it persists for quite some time. So, your initial harass can be ridiculous when the skill at level 1 gives you 4 +80 damage attacks with 20% lifesteal. Throw your Q in there and you can trash someone. Toss in the tree escape, and yeah. First impression is he's pretty broken unless there is some counter besides Timber going crazy on the trees.