Dr. Cliff Huxtable was a mega rapist

Mist_sl said:

Even then, if they're put into a state where they can no longer withdraw their consent, that's still most likely rape depending on the specific wording of the particular laws in that state.

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Ethically speaking, that's not rape, even if it is legally. But I interpret his testimony from that 2005 case, given the context, as he gave that chick the three benadryl with the intent of knocking her out against her will. Because while there was a culture around getting wasted on Ludes, I don't think there was any culture around 'knock me out with diphenhydramine so you can have sex with me while I'm out cold'.

Column_sl said:

I'm curious now on his statement in 2005. Isn't he saying he gave prescribed medication to other people?

How did they not at least fine him for that. I could be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure it is illegal to distribute drugs that were prescribed to you as an individual.

Couldn't they have grabbed his records ,and see exactly what the doctors were giving him.

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Statute of limitations on the Ludes, and the prosecutor said there wasn't enough evidence to charge him with the rape of Andrea Constand.

And again, there's nothing particularly reprehensible about someone trading Ludes for sex in the 70s.

Trading drugs for sex, trading money for sex, it's all the same. Cosby was into banging whores.

Can whores be raped? If they "withdraw consent" aren't they thieves now unless they reimburse Cosby for his drugs?

Does asking questions about the definition of rape make me a rape apologist?

Gavinmad_sl said:

And again, there's nothing particularly reprehensible about someone trading Ludes for sex in the 70s.

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Well the distribution is illegal for one. Reprehensible is too subjective.

Now if his intent was to drug women to knock them out without their knowledge in my opinion that is reprehensible.

His lawyer wouldn't let him answer that question.

Chanur_sl said:

Hopefully Cosby is raped in prison by someone named Puddin' and calls his dick Jello.

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Cosby accuser aims for criminal charges
That would require a case. Which is unlikely because "victims" like Lili Bernard can't even tell police which state they woke-up in.

Now Allred has put forward an accuser who hopes to get around that. Allred said she and Bernard went to police in Atlantic City on Thursday, where they spent five hours being interviewed by detectives.

"Unlike most other states, New Jersey has no statue of limitations for rape, which means that law enforcement is not prevented from prosecuting a case because of an arbitrary time period set by law," Allred said.

Barnard did not provide specifics of what happened to her ? it wasn't clear, for instance, if what she says happened to her happened in New Jersey.

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Column_sl said:

Well the distribution is illegal for one. Reprehensible is too subjective.

Now if his intent was to drug women to knock them out without their knowledge in my opinion that is reprehensible.

His lawyer wouldn't let him answer that question.

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I mean, given the context of the time, it's no different than hooking up these days with alcohol or coke. Now, yes, there is absolutely a grey area with ludes (or alcohol) and sex, but ludes were so widely abused they just had to stop manufacturing them.

Gavinmad_sl said:

I mean, given the context of the time, it's no different than hooking up these days with alcohol or coke. Now, yes, there is absolutely a grey area with ludes (or alcohol) and sex, but ludes were so widely abused they just had to stop manufacturing them.

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Just on the distribution part, and not touching the rape area of it

The biggest difference is alcohol is legal. Distributing cocaine, or prescribed drugs is not.
If you are hooking up with cocaine you are already breaking the law

Column_sl said:

Just on the distribution part, and not touching the rape area of it

The biggest difference is alcohol is legal. Distributing cocaine, or prescribed drugs is not.

If you are hooking up with cocain you are already breaking the law

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That's why I added the qualifier 'particularly'. Yes, what he was doing was illegal. However, it was not especially depraved considering how widespread lude abuse was at the time.

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What I'm trying to say is that the ludes specifically are not any particular evidence of him being a shady guy.

Gavinmad_sl said:

That's why I added the qualifier 'particularly'. Yes, what he was doing was illegal. However, it was not especially depraved considering how widespread lude abuse was at the time.

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What I'm trying to say is that the ludes specifically are not any particular evidence of him being a shady guy.

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We don't know if it was depraved tho. If it comes out that he preyed on women with the intention of using drugs to knock them out for sex without them knowing about it, then yes in my book that is rapist.

and I would have to wonder about anyone who would defend him after that..

Dude he already admitted to knocking a chick out with benadryl in that 2005 deposition. He is a rapist. I'm just saying his admitting to using and trading quaaludes for sex is not some damning fact like the benadryl was.

Column_sl said:

We don't know if it was depraved tho. If it comes out that he preyed on women with the intention of using drugs to knock them out for sex without them knowing about it, then yes in my book that is rapist.

and I would have to wonder about anyone who would defend him after that..

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I wouldn't. That would be clear cut and dry rape. But that's not what was revealed in the court documents.

Himeo_sl said:

I wouldn't. That would be clear cut and dry rape. But that's not what was revealed in the court documents.

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Nobody here cares what the opinion of a redpill neckbeard is on the subject of rape.

'lude and alcohol orgies were mainstream in the '70's, just like cocaine and alcohol orgies were in the '80's until AIDS rolled along.

Trading prescribed drugs is illegal for any reason in the US.

He's willing to break the law even if an individual think it falls into a grey area or not.

If someone was building a case against you, that already puts your character at risk.

Are you completely incapable of perceiving the context of the times? Doing ludes in the 70s was about the same as drinking alcohol during the prohibition.

Gavinmad_sl said:

Are you completely incapable of perceiving the context of the times? Doing ludes in the 70s was about the same as drinking alcohol during the prohibition.

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Context of times means jack shit. It was illegal when he did it, and Cosby knew it was illegal yet still broke the law. That is all that matters

This excuse of people were doing all kinds of illegal drugs freely in the 70's doesn't hold any water.

People think today that smoking weed is equivalent to drinking in 2015, yet I'm going to jail if I do it, or distribute it in almost all of the US. If I openly break the law that makes me a criminal.

and it puts my character in question when brought to a trial with larger illegal activities attached to it.

in the 70s, recreational drugs were all part of the club/hollywood scene. its really hard to imagine what that was like in this day age of hyper awareness. in the 70s people took uppers to keep the party rolling, then they took downers to bring you back to earth. along the way people sometimes took too much of some stuff or just flat out took the wrong stuff either by accident or maliciousness from the supplier. sometimes people would get fucked up, sometimes people would die. try telling that to a teen or 20 something and you may as well be talking to yourself. they all think they are immortal and bad things only happen to other people.

does any of this excuse a pervert like cosby? no, even before this latest revelation its obvious he was hooking these chicks up with drugs so they would have sex with him, but as it was during a time when drugs and sex (and rock n roll!) went hand in hand its not so sinister when they knew about it. the water shed moment is if any of these chicks could prove that they unknowingly were drugged by cosby who then sexually assaulted them. i also want to add that IF in fact cosby was raping these chicks and they knew about it, they share a part in his crimes by not reporting it. all it took was one person to say something and it would have prevented the others from sharing their fate.