Dr. Cliff Huxtable was a mega rapist

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This is what I didn't know you were talking about. I guess this was an attempt to be funny or something.
Yeah, I know humor is tough for SJWs. I'll say something not funny later so you can see the difference.

You are wrong. As the Bill Burr example attests, he had plenty of stuff going on and was popular. Now no one, including Bill Burr, wants anything to do with him. His legacy is absolutely getting killed and acting like "no one knows" those other comedians is amazingly ignorant. Bill Cosby on the other hand, yeah, you are an idiot if you think this won't affect his legacy. Every story about him from now on is going to, at the very minimum, have a huge portion of it taken up by this. Yes, plenty of people don't know about great comedians from the past. To say they don't have legacies though, is dumb as shit. Cosby managed to shit all over his.
No, I was just guessing you didn't know them and that kids today didn't know them. That was the original statement, that in 20 years young people would not know his name because of this. I was just pointing out that young people pretty much never know about comedians from 50+ years ago. Those people I named all had their own problems, and you don't hear about them everytime they're mentioned, do you? If there had been an internet, I bet retards like you would have been saying Pryor's legacy was done more than once.

Basically, what I'm saying is that from a legacy standpoint, this shit will pass. He was funny, so he will continue to influence young comedians who really want to study the art.

For fuck's sake, even Michael Jackson's legacy hasn't taken as big a hit as people like to pretend. In 20 years, I bet it will come as a surprise to young people that he was diddling kids. Jerry Lee Lewis fucking his underaged cousin is nothing more than a trivia question these days. What about tyson? I guess his legacy took a hit, but only because he went fucking crazy, not so much because he was convicted of rape. Did Kobe's legacy take a hit?
 

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Yeah, I know humor is tough for SJWs. I'll say something not funny later so you can see the difference.



No, I was just guessing you didn't know them and that kids today didn't know them. That was the original statement, that in 20 years young people would not know his name because of this. I was just pointing out that young people pretty much never know about comedians from 50+ years ago. Those people I named all had their own problems, and you don't hear about them everytime they're mentioned, do you? If there had been an internet, I bet retards like you would have been saying Pryor's legacy was done more than once.

Basically, what I'm saying is that from a legacy standpoint, this shit will pass. He was funny, so he will continue to influence young comedians who really want to study the art.

For fuck's sake, even Michael Jackson's legacy hasn't taken as big a hit as people like to pretend. In 20 years, I bet it will come as a surprise to young people that he was diddling kids. Jerry Lee Lewis fucking his underaged cousin is nothing more than a trivia question these days. What about tyson? I guess his legacy took a hit, but only because he went fucking crazy, not so much because he was convicted of rape. Did Kobe's legacy take a hit?
jackson's rep took such a hit that his career was ruined in this country, even after the aquittal. everyone thought people were paid off and he skated. not many thought he was innocent except his family and die hard fans. but when he died it was like none of that pedo shit ever happened. his songs were back on the radio, they released a concert movie. his rep is now forever golden. if coz dies several years from now the same will happen. this is but a footnote in his career
 

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Only a rape apologist calls someone a SJW for daring to suggest someone might just be guilty of rape after accusations from 30+ women.
Well they might just be guilty after one accusation too. The number of accusations doesn't mean anything. And "might be guilty" is a pretty low standard.
 

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It's still nothing but he said she said + 30 years.

That there are 30 of them might be somewhat persuasive. But think. There are 30 of them. Shouldn't that be 30 opportunities to bring forth some sort of objective and credible evidence? Something. Even a scrap. 30 accusations is still not evidence. Itisa perfectly good reason to look for some, though.

But it's been months.

Now if they find Cosby's rape basement, well ok then. That might be as close as you ever get. Jackson completely damned himself with Neverland Ranch and they sycophants that he surrounded himself with. It's not much like Jackson. Cosby was getting ornery and uppidy in his platinum years, maligning thug culture. I can't help but feel there might be some element of "your shit stinks too, old man, and it always did" in this. Sleazy? Probably. Rape? That's a serious charge.
 

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That there are 30 of them might be somewhat persuasive. But think. There are 30 of them. Shouldn't that be 30 opportunities to bring forth some sort of objective and credible evidence? Something. Even a scrap. 30 accusations is still not evidence. Itisa perfectly good reason to look for some, though.
Like what? Unless the victims suffered physical trauma, there's virtually no physical evidence of a rape even a few days after the fact, let alone years and years later. You think some of them should have held on to their jizz-stained panties in case this opportunity ever came up? Vomited into a Ziploc bag and kept it in their freezer? They had pretty much all decided a long time ago that they were never going to pursue this at all. It's only because they saw others doing so that they decided to come forth and make their stories known.

On the other hand... There are 30 of them. Shouldn't that be 30 opportunities to bring forth some sort of objective and credible evidence that some of them are lying? Something. Even a scrap. A conversation with a friend where one of them decides to join the bandwagon. Proof that Cosby and one of the women in question were in different cities at the time of the supposed rape. Don't forget, inconsistencies in the victim's story was what exposed the accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case, wasn't it? There doesn't seem to be even a single reason to suspect any of these women are lying at all, except for some misguided judgmental assumptions that they just GOTTA be in it for the attention and "fame". That's what women do for fun now, right? Lie about being raped?
 

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Like what? Unless the victims suffered physical trauma, there's virtually no physical evidence of a rape even a few days after the fact, let alone years and years later. You think some of them should have held on to their jizz-stained panties in case this opportunity ever came up? Vomited into a Ziploc bag and kept it in their freezer? They had pretty much all decided a long time ago that they were never going to pursue this at all. It's only because they saw others doing so that they decided to come forth and make their stories known.

On the other hand... There are 30 of them. Shouldn't that be 30 opportunities to bring forth some sort of objective and credible evidence that some of them are lying? Something. Even a scrap. A conversation with a friend where one of them decides to join the bandwagon. Proof that Cosby and one of the women in question were in different cities at the time of the supposed rape. Don't forget, inconsistencies in the victim's story was what exposed the accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case, wasn't it? There doesn't seem to be even a single reason to suspect any of these women are lying at all, except for some misguided judgmental assumptions that they just GOTTA be in it for the attention and "fame". That's what women do for fun now, right? Lie about being raped?
yeah, why isnt there a scrap of evidence presented that he didnt rape those women???!!!??
 

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jackson's rep took such a hit that his career was ruined in this country, even after the aquittal. everyone thought people were paid off and he skated. not many thought he was innocent except his family and die hard fans. but when he died it was like none of that pedo shit ever happened. his songs were back on the radio, they released a concert movie. his rep is now forever golden. if coz dies several years from now the same will happen. this is but a footnote in his career
i'm with dave chappelle on MJ. but if 50 chicks say you raped em... i've never seen 20 chicks agree on anything, so either bill cosby is the anti christ or he probably raped some bitches

don't get me wrong, theres no proof so he shouldn't go to jail or shit but i ain't leaving any woman i know alone with bill cosby. if i see some young chick with him i'll tell her to run bitch, run

 

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yeah, why isnt there a scrap of evidence presented that he didnt rape those women???!!!??
That they'relyingabout being raped. That's a crime, isn't it? A crime for which evidence could be found. Heck, I even gave a couple of examples. There was lots of evidence the Duke Lacrosse girl was lying, wasn't there? And she was just one person. If tens of women are lying about something, there should be something,anythingto indicate that they are, right? Otherwise, what possible reason would there be to suspect them of lying?
 

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Janice dickson's ex publicist or whatever has stated that she is full of shit based on previous dealings. When i get home from work i will dig up the link.
 

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Janice dickson's ex publicist or whatever has stated that she is full of shit based on previous dealings. When i get home from work i will dig up the link.
Unless he can actually provide evidence to support his claim that she is full of shit, it's no different than the rape accusations.
 

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Someone claiming the women are lying has the same amount of evidence available to support their stance as the rape accusers have to support theirs. Seems like we should take both at face value.
 

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Someone claiming the women are lying has the same amount of evidence available to support their stance as the rape accusers have to support theirs. Seems like we should take both at face value.
Well, let's see...

On the one hand, we've got several women who bear no connection to each other, all with stories spanning decades which share eerie similarities. That's not conclusive evidence, of course, but it's certainly evidence. We also have Cosby admitting to using drugs for sex, which lends credibility to their stories.

On the other hand, we've got nothing to suggest any of them are lying. Nothing.

So no, it's not "the same amount of evidence". Again, it's entirely reasonable to say "We don't know all the facts". If you believe the evidence that Cosby is a serial rapist is insufficient beyond the shadow of a doubt, you're right. But nobody's actually suggesting there's enough evidence to put him away. It just seems that the more we hear, the more likely it seems that these stories didn't just come from a bunch of women's overactive imaginations,especiallysince (again) there isnothingsuggesting any of them are lying.
 

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Well, let's see...

On the one hand, we've got several women who bear no connection to each other, all with stories spanning decades which share eerie similarities. That's not conclusive evidence, of course, but it's certainly evidence. We also have Cosby admitting to using drugs for sex, which lends credibility to their stories.

On the other hand, we've got nothing to suggest any of them are lying. Nothing.

So no, it's not "the same amount of evidence". Again, it's entirely reasonable to say "We don't know all the facts". If you believe the evidence that Cosby is a serial rapist is insufficient beyond the shadow of a doubt, you're right. But nobody's actually suggesting there's enough evidence to put him away. It just seems that the more we hear, the more likely it seems that these stories didn't just come from a bunch of women's overactive imaginations,especiallysince (again) there isnothingsuggesting any of them are lying.
So, its just a big publicity jerk off. I mean thats fine, but just call it what it is.
 

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So, its just a big publicity jerk off. I mean thats fine, but just call it what it is.
Just correcting your misstatement about the "same amount of evidence". Inconclusive Evidence > Zero Evidence