Elden Ring - From Software + George RR Martin
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Hatorade
A nice asshole.
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Mimic remains the best, uses whatever you have equipped to full effect. Tiche is OK but the fact the damage it does can disappear and the heavy mind investment it isn't as good.
Phazael
Confirmed Beta Shitlord, Fat Bastard
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Its situational. Tiche is great if you need some damage and are spamming bleed. Mimic is best if you just need a tank distraction, especially if your main character is tanky with a decent weapon art. I also like mimic for costing HP so I can manage my magic pots in certain situations. I ran Mimic for the naturalborne of the void fight, but Tiche was clutch against Mogh in his fortress. Unbelievably, you can curb stomp the lord of blood with bleeding. But having Mimic rock Darkmoon Greatsword can be handy too.
Nirgon
Log Wizard
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The bows u can jump (literally) around with and shoot that cause bleed pops are rough to deal with in duels
ronne
Nǐ hǎo, yǒu jīn zi ma?
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Looks like the urumi thing, it's a whip-sword thing? It's mostly a whip but iirc it's R2 is unique with that big long distance thrust/stab.
Intrinsic
Person of Whiteness
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A couple nights ago I swapped Blasphemous for Nagakiba +24 with Sword Dance and have liked it. Blasphemous was fun but I didn’t really enjoy the Taker’s Flame spam and the regular melee wasn’t as satisfying.
I’d like to find a similar setup to the Nagakiba but more Faith scaling. Keeping it Keen for the Sword Dance is nice but it feels like my 50/55 Faith is sort of wasted since it is DEX scaling with Keen. But I can Blood Blade buff it and still Golden Vow + Fire buff myself.
Just making my way through snow area finally and level 125 for now.
Hateyou
Not Great, Not Terrible
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Vorph
Silver Baronet of the Realm
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Also, depending on your build, Tiche is always better than mimic, at any level.
Mimic AI really is shit now. If you can give it something extremely OP and force it to use only that it can still do well, but in any other case I stick with Tiche.
Tiche's dagger isn't a bleed weapon, it's straight HP% reduction (which is why it sometimes looks like the boss got healed by it). It actually makes bleed slightly worse, since bleed is % damage, and by reducing the boss' max hp it means bleeds do slightly less damage. On the plus side though, it means Tiche is actually very useful against the bosses (like the final one) which are completely immune to bleed.
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Bruuce
Blackwing Lair Raider
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On my caster build I cant count how many times Ive yelled at Tiche for just dodging around and not doing anything to get agro for me so I could unload on the boss. And even when it does agro, the agro he gets rarely lets me cast more than 2 casts. Mimic, even after the nerf, for some reason will hold agro so much better.
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Vorph
Silver Baronet of the Realm
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It wasn't imo, except in certain cases where you could get mimic to run around doing basically nothing but hoarfrost stomp spam.
Khane
Got something right about marriage
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Ritley
Karazhan Raider
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You don’t have to die to get to them. There a way to get there from the main area of lava manor.
Going back end game I’m sure they are easy though.
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stupidmonkey
Not Smrt
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50 hours in and level 60 something with samurai-ish build. Got moonveil at +5 and the ugi at +13. Fought some big black bird looking thing by the beast clergyman and got stomped in a shot or two. Decided nope and tried some of those belfry places since I found the keys. Went to a tornado place and dropped down and was dead immediately to two beast looking things. Hit one for 230 damage and couldn't see it on the healthbar. Saw my health bar go to zero real quick though.
I've been pretty lucky exploring places I'm probably not supposed to be in yet but those two put me in my place.
I've been pretty lucky exploring places I'm probably not supposed to be in yet but those two put me in my place.
Seananigans
Honorary Shit-PhD
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So, leveling and defense power:
I'm not sure how this all works. But it seems to me that whatever this "defense power" stat is must increase your survivability a good bit. Which means simply leveling will make you more powerful, no matter what you put your stat point(s) into. Some or all of those stat points will come with a defense power increase. This is regardless of what armor you're wearing (as that changes your damage negation which is a supplemental stat)... a naked L1 wretch compared to a naked L41 wretch who put their 40 points into endurance. Despite both being naked and neither increasing their HP via Vigor, it seems the L40 will survive better due to the defense power stat increasing somewhat with the 40 points of endurance.
Am I correct in this? It certainly feels like I'm just MUCH more survivable now that I'm level 140 in the end game, regardless of what armor I'm wearing.
I'm not sure how this all works. But it seems to me that whatever this "defense power" stat is must increase your survivability a good bit. Which means simply leveling will make you more powerful, no matter what you put your stat point(s) into. Some or all of those stat points will come with a defense power increase. This is regardless of what armor you're wearing (as that changes your damage negation which is a supplemental stat)... a naked L1 wretch compared to a naked L41 wretch who put their 40 points into endurance. Despite both being naked and neither increasing their HP via Vigor, it seems the L40 will survive better due to the defense power stat increasing somewhat with the 40 points of endurance.
Am I correct in this? It certainly feels like I'm just MUCH more survivable now that I'm level 140 in the end game, regardless of what armor I'm wearing.
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Vorph
Silver Baronet of the Realm
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I guess it's down to play style, because personally I didn't care about the summon tanking for me while fighting the bosses I killed with sorcery (or Moonveil/Wing of Astel/Death's Poker for that matter). I wanted it to do damage, which means you either have to be extremely selective with your spell loadout and only bring the 2 or 3 things mimic would actually be capable of using effectively or you have to enter the fight with your sword equipped, summon the mimic, heal, then swap back to your staff, all while hoping the boss doesn't bend you over during the extra 5+ seconds it takes for the tear to take your form and begin fighting. Tiche does a black knife weapon skill about 0.5 seconds after you ring the bell, every single time, and if it hits she usually has the initial aggro.
Plus, as a int build with 40 mind, you never have to worry about Tiche's summon cost or having to use the zero-FP flask in order to get her out.
Pretty much, yes. Go to the status screen and hit Y/Triangle and you can see the exact % reduction you have for all the damage types. As long as you aren't wearing two soreseals and a scorpion charm, up around level 150 you'll have good DR no matter what armor you're using. I choose my armor for special effects (silent chest is a must imo), looks (silent chest also one of the best looking), and poise (minimum of 50 to get the first bit of hyperarmor).
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