Elysium

Liked this movie a lot

Caliane_sl said:

oh, weird. sorry. meant to quote Phazael.

his post was full on nuts. I agree with you, on most of your points.

Most of the entire ending was weak. Kreugar being brought back was lame and dumb. If Elysian had an army of medical units, just ready to go at all times. why exactly where they held back? We didn't they engage to go resurrect the CEO. Why didn't they go to heal, and resurrect the Secretary of Def the moment she was injured, as the SYSTEM clearly identified her being injured. Where did all the droids and guards go, when she put the place on lockdown? How was kreugar able to walk around the station, considering he was not actually reinstated, she had him working on the side?
The entire final act was stupid. Station goes from impenetrable, to ZERO defenses instantly and inexplicably.

Shoulder launched orbital missiles are a technology that would change everything in terms of military power. warlords like Spider would get their hands on that kind of thing. And Elysium would not be able to exist in a world where shoulder launched missiles can take out ships in oribit, satellites, stations.. that scene should not have been in the movie either.
Much like the rail gun noted earlier.

Robots.
Why are police on Earth robots? Why are robots NOT building other robots? If they are cheap enough to be used as police. then they are certainly cheap enough to be used on an assembly line, so people don't accidentally get nuked.

Kid didn't add anything to the movie as noted. Neither did the girl. The entire dialogue begging to take the girl was stupid. "I'm dying. So I took a job, in order to get a ticket to Elysium. But it went bad, I got stabbed, everyone else died, and I'm being followed by bad guys." "TAKE MY DAUGHTER SHE HAS LEUKEMIA!" "lady, did you not hear the part about getting stabbed, everyone dieing? the job failed, I dont have a god damn ticket." "TAKE HER WITH YOU!, HERE IS A STUPID STORY ABOUT A HIPPO!" "ffs.."

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I am curious what you felt was so nuts about my post. But I will bite the troll bait and address a couple specific points:
The impression I got (and inferred from real world aerospace navigation) was that the shuttles were using guidance that was provided by Elysium to achieve the correct trajectory to get to the station and that the ground based missiles were tapped into the same guidance information. Really not much of a stretch, since surface to orbit travel has been ridiculously math intensive (ie no one will ever just hop in the cockpit and fly by the seat of their pants to even a low orbit installation as space is simply too fucking vast) to do without some external navigational assistance. This is likely how they also turned LA into a no fly zone, as killing the navigational communication would make surface to orbit transportation ludicrously dangerous. It is readily obvious in the movie that they are tracking every projectile and craft that left the surface from their command center. But I agree that a little exposition on that fact would have helped joe blow movie goer to understand things a little better.

With the robots, the cynical answer is that desperate poor people running assembly lines are a lot cheaper to maintain than robots, especially when you have the entire human population beaten down to the point where they are willingly sucking your collective dicks just to have any kind of employment. If cheap labor was not a better alternative to automation in the modern world, it would be an army of Benders in domestic factories cranking shit out right now, instead of all the offshoring to third world shitholes that goes on. Same deal here, since life is cheap.

The love interest and her daughter were done very ham fisted and its fairly clear from D9 that it is not this director's strong point, but there needed to be a mechanism for why the main character would stop being a selfish dick and eventually make that sacrifice. Not sure what to say on that point, beyond that.

But hey, I get it, its not D9 and does not fulfill your expectations. Treating it like the falloff from Empire to Jedi is a bit ridiculous, though.

I have seen Oblivion and Moon. If I had to rank them, I would put Moon easily the best of the three, Elysium second, and Oblivion a close third. I enjoyed all three, immensely. My preference probably has more to do with my man crush on Sam Rockwell and a general preference for high concept gritty science fiction.

How could you hate Mission To Mars? Tim Robins death scene was comedy gold.