Elysium
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spronk
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i'm surprised christians aren't proselytizing the movie as a parable for Christ. matt damon is really afraid to die most of the movie. he sacrifices himself to save the poor, sick, and the lame and he does it after a personal relationship with a child, who inspires him. Angels literally descend from heaven to save humanity. Plus there is the whole nun thing from the start.
Xevy
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Zomg he was all focused on Heaven, but the one way to get there was to focus on helping Earth! ZOMGZ
Kreugen
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Yeah that's the funny part though, the poor downtrodden folks weren't working together at all, they were just as self centered as the rich.
And I don't think the ending was really redemption - he didn't really have a choice. He wasn't trying to save a bunch of strangers - he didn't give a shit about them. He was helping the girl he'd loved his entire life. And there's also the fact that either he had to murder everyone who knew about what was in his head or be hunted the rest of his life.
I'm pretty convinced that Blomkampt is irrevocably cynical. So even if the intention was to have Max be some kind of Christ figure, I don't think it worked. It's like the ending tried to be less bleak than the entire rest of the film (and the too similar to ignore D9) but failed badly. A few medical ships for hundreds of millions of people? Elysium overrun and likely destroyed? That was his grand purpose? Heh. You'd have to be a hell of an optimist to think good times were ahead for that world.
Okay granted, it's not really his motivations but his actions I suppose. So to the people that had their illnesses cured before all the medical beds broke down he pretty much was a Christ like savior. I'll give you that one.
Arbitrary
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It looked great, the acting was good, and aside from two moments where they handed Michael J. Fox the camera the action was great. I thought it was a perfectly fine film but the contrived story kept taking me out of it and really held the whole thing down. It's science fiction done wrong, unfortunately. We are supposed to be handed an idea and then watch as the story grows organically from that idea. What if overpopulation and pollution caused all the rich people to move off the planet on to a fancy space station and left everyone to rot!
Um, terrorist attacks? Nuclear strikes from rogue nations? The immediate capture and execution of any citizen of Elysium who dared set foot back on Earth? The entire world having a single unifying symbol of their hatred and pain? Population controls? Forced sterilization? Mass population collapse due to disease or famine? No? None of this? Your whole movie is really about healthcare and doesn't actually have anything to do with overpopulation or pollution or the other dystopian elements that you introduced at the open?
Elysium could have beenamazing.Instead it's just alright.
Um, terrorist attacks? Nuclear strikes from rogue nations? The immediate capture and execution of any citizen of Elysium who dared set foot back on Earth? The entire world having a single unifying symbol of their hatred and pain? Population controls? Forced sterilization? Mass population collapse due to disease or famine? No? None of this? Your whole movie is really about healthcare and doesn't actually have anything to do with overpopulation or pollution or the other dystopian elements that you introduced at the open?
Elysium could have beenamazing.Instead it's just alright.
TrollfaceDeux
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You mean the people working together to maintain a stable healthy civilization by stealing the rich people's cars? Or maybe the people working together to steal the rich guy's brain? No, you mean the poor downtrodden regular folk that have been forced into stealing the magic heal sparkles from the greedy rich space bourgeoisie for a sick little girl. Yeah those people. And then they send the magic heal sparkles down to Earth in space ambulances to heal all the people which I'm sure goes great and no one starts vandalizing the ships or takes control and makes people pay for the magic heal sparkles because they are all people working together to maintain a stable healthy civilization right?
Fight
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Kids ruin movies. I fucking hate kids.
I am not saying the little girl with scurvy disease was a bad actor or anything, but why the fuck did they have to use a kid as an emotional plot element? His girlfriend could have been stricken with leukemia just as easily and it would have made his sacrifice even more real.
Fuck you kids, fuck your fuckin couches.
Fuck you kids, fuck your fuckin couches.
Merrith
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You're not the only one, there's just plenty of us who like to go enjoy the movie then come back to RR to read all about the symbolism we were blissfully unaware of.
Kreugen
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Merrith
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Jozu
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I didnt notice special forces beard dude was the guy from District 9 either until I recognized his distinct accent.
I thought the movie was decent. It wasnt terrible, or a failure, but it defintely wasnt anything to write home about. The story was fucking awful. Posters have already pretty much summed it up already, but the movie really was all about healthcare and healing disabled peoples/unfortunate victims of plight. I mean...wtf?
Not to mention the way Max was poisoned was fucking LAUGHABLE. You really couldnt come up with something more intriguing than that? That one, stupid, short-sighted incident was pretty much the catalyst for the entire movie. Obviously the story is highjacked by the sick child, but the impetus of the whole movie was essentially Max's boss being a dick added with an unfortunate (non-believable) stroke of bad luck. Its fucking retarded.
Could of and should of been much better. D9 was miles better.
I thought the movie was decent. It wasnt terrible, or a failure, but it defintely wasnt anything to write home about. The story was fucking awful. Posters have already pretty much summed it up already, but the movie really was all about healthcare and healing disabled peoples/unfortunate victims of plight. I mean...wtf?
Not to mention the way Max was poisoned was fucking LAUGHABLE. You really couldnt come up with something more intriguing than that? That one, stupid, short-sighted incident was pretty much the catalyst for the entire movie. Obviously the story is highjacked by the sick child, but the impetus of the whole movie was essentially Max's boss being a dick added with an unfortunate (non-believable) stroke of bad luck. Its fucking retarded.
Could of and should of been much better. D9 was miles better.