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He could immediately earn our love by making his first post:

Hey shitheads,

<a few paragraphs of teaser pseudo marking speak>

Sincerely,
Your last best hope.
 
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gogojira_sl

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There's seriously about nothing else, it's crazy. I wanted to be excited for Black Desert but I just about loathe Korean MMOs and I'm pretty sure I'll hate it.
 
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gogojira_sl

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Pantheon will transcend Unity and be built entirely within Landmark. All the Patreon money will be used to pay for monthly subscriptions. Full. On. Development.
 
Jysin

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Tenks_sl said:
Yeah I'm up to I think 5 weeks of vacation + 5 personal days a year. With 240 hours of vacation rollover per year AND a full compliment of sick hours which I have like 300 hours of banked up. Like I said 32-40 hour weeks, great benefits, I get to pretty much work on what I please and make a very competitive salary for my regional location. Sure I wish more people used and cared about what I work on but at the end of the day I'd prefer to have a healthy life-life instead of enjoying the stink of my own farts by holding my head up high going "Well I work for Google/Twitter/FB/Amazon/Apple."

Circling back to the conversation I'm sure there are many skilled developers out there like me who would just prefer to skate by instead of actually worry about leaving some legacy on computer science and gaming
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shabushabu_sl said:
Honestly, tech is not as bad as people think. I have been in tech for years ( software engineer, now sales engineer ) and many of my friends are Software guys and don't do 60 a week, more like 45-50. If you can find a defense contractor even better.. you work 40 no more and if more they pay u every hour ( not always but some places ). Northrop Grunmann, SAIC i know a lot of peeps at.
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Not every defence contractor. I work General Dynamics IT and we are on 48 hour work weeks. It's whatever is written into the contract. Over 48, we get OT but there are others on site that are doing far more than that and never see OT. Different contracts, different hours / OT structure.

I have been with the company for 12 years now and I can accumulate / roll over up to 336 hours. I think I get a final bump at 15 years.
 
Big_w_powah

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Jysin_sl said:
Not every defence contractor. I work General Dynamics IT and we are on 48 hour work weeks. It's whatever is written into the contract. Over 48, we get OT but there are others on site that are doing far more than that and never see OT. Different contracts, different hours / OT structure.

I have been with the company for 12 years now and I can accumulate / roll over up to 336 hours. I think I get a final bump at 15 years.
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I work for a small company of 10 full time employees and at any given time 10-20 contractors. I'm the IT department. I get 2 weeks off but unlimited roll over. We're encouraged to take our time off, though.
 
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Two weeks per year? That is just crazy talk to me. Unlimited rollover means nothing with that accrual rate. I value my vacation time far more than pay at this point. I love to travel and see the world while I am relatively young. No pay would convince me otherwise.
 
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Well, officially its 2 weeks. This year I've taken 2 already and am taking a week and a half for Christmas. It helps to have a great relationship with the owner of the company.
 
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Dahlrek_sl

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I didn't miss that point. My point was that, before, you had a vast and immense pool of computer graduates that would acquire skills that would translate easily into MMO-tech. Meant you could get good ones for reasonable prices. Today, the pool of people who do acquire good skills in the areas required for a MMO is far, far smaller than it used to be, even though there are more developers than any time before.

The people working on high-end system software for Amazon, Google, Facebook are a relative minority of the devs out there. Meaning you can't hire them, yes. That's the point. 15 years ago, you could hire anyone outside of the game industry and they would have skills useful for your MMO. Today? Nope. 90% of the devs won't know anything useful for you.
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You're kinda right. The thing is, building an MMO takes all sorts of skills. But you're not trying to hire a single engineer that can optimize your particle system Monday, reduce the input latency of your UI the Tuesday, manage your build and release system the Wednesday, hand-compress your networking protocol Thursday, and fix the AI's pathing while slacking off on Friday. You're trying to hire an engineer that could learn any of that - someone you can hand a problem and an internet connection, and come back in a week for a reasonable solution. And the actual problem is that (Sturgeon's Law again) 90% of software engineers aren't capable of doing that.

Honestly one of the best parts about working on MMOs is that you have the opportunity to engage with a huge set of problems that cover most every facet of software engineering, all in one job. But the pay and hours are shit (at the same time). So there you go.
 
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Im up to 5 weeks a year. 40 hour work weeks are bullshit! 20 is fair.. You guys working more are suckers.. even worse, the people on salary who work 40+. What a scam!
 
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I have 3 days off every week too though. 12 x 4 = 48 hour work week and a bucket load of vacation days per year with a hefty salary.

I can't honestly fathom going back to working 5 days a week!
 
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I do infrastructure management for my company and i'm in a team of 5 people, It's all virtual and once in a while we have to send out new hardware to various offices. We are giving serious discussion to working at home 4 out of the 5 days and the person who is at the office that day just mails out what we need while the other 4 answer tickets from home.
 
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Jysin_sl said:
I have 3 days off every week too though. 12 x 4 = 48 hour work week and a bucket load of vacation days per year with a hefty salary.

I can't honestly fathom going back to working 5 days a week!
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I work from home 99.9% of the time, the rest of the time (which I enjoy, since being stuck at home ALL the time can get boring) is doing on site computer fixes. I tend to get one day monday-friday where its either no work or less than an hours work. I think my job is far cushier than yours, sir. I'm getting paid to type this in my boxers, even.
 
Jysin

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I just spent an hour and a half in the gym (on work's dime), as I am now typing this from my work computer.

Let's just agree that we are both spoiled assholes.
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