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Erie_sl

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If they have an assassin class why are you bitching when you can just play that class? No one is saying you have to take the hybrid abilities to make him effective because as stated in the panel it's an "economy" based multiclass system. There will be a cost associated with taking those hybrid abilities in the form of gear. You even said yourself, balance is never perfect.
Because when you reach end game, if assassin isn't balanced, end game guilds won't let you play them if you can switch you're abilities.
 
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Have they said anything about what their income model is? Sure it's F2P but what is going to be the money maker? No dedicated healer so if you don't want to rest 5 min between fights you buy heal pots? Extra character slots seems like it will be out with multi classing? Bag space? XP/Craft XP pots? Vanity pets/mounts? Every crafted item needs a pay for component?
I already answered this is this thread like 20 pages it , it was earlier today, some thought I was being sarcastic but they will print money with bag slot unlocks at 500 each per character, selling heal potions, character slots, want to change your class 2500 station cash.
Plus they have all the typical SOE shit mounts, appreance items, boats, housing.

Fuck would not be surprised if we see lockboxes drop that need key like vanguard has for station cash, neverwinter, STO do that as well.
 

Pyksel

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Because when you reach end game, if assassin isn't balanced, end game guilds won't let you play them if you can switch you're abilities.
You just identified 3 problems all at once. Assassin not being balanced, the "end game" content you're going up against, and the social problem of the guild. Go watch the class panels and it makes it a tad bit more clear but there's still so much we just flat out don't know yet. We have no idea what "end game" even is.
 

Teekey

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Because when you reach end game, if assassin isn't balanced, end game guilds won't let you play them if you can switch you're abilities.
So if you were a max level under powered Assassin, you'd appreciate having NO other options at all, and shunned from every guild?

This argument is fucking comical.
 

Pyksel

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So if you were a max level under powered Assassin, you'd appreciate having NO other options at all, and shunned from every guild?

This argument is fucking comical.
Exactly! Don't forget that attributes are tied to your class, not gear.
 

etchazz

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So if you were a max level under powered Assassin, you'd appreciate having NO other options at all, and shunned from every guild?

This argument is fucking comical.
no, what he's saying is he doesn't want to play a game where he's not needed because he is only an assassin (which is what he wants to play) and didn't bother to be an assassin/cleric/enchanter/monk/warrior hybrid. you fucking simpleton.
 

Erie_sl

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So if you were a max level under powered Assassin, you'd appreciate having NO other options at all, and shunned from every guild?

This argument is fucking comical.
Well, if you have fewer options, there's a greater possiblity shit will be balanced, having 40+ options means a great majority of those will not be an option to play. And guilds can't shun players if balancing is constantly happening, because they have no idea who the next overpowered class will be. Rather play something I want to play because there's no other option than be forced to play something I don't want to play because it's the flavor of the month.
 
I'm curious just how many people are going to play other MMO's now. I know several of my friends were awaiting EQNext's timeline. It appears to be a long ways off and now that we know what we do, it will be interesting to see how people will try other games just to compare concepts. People may just attempt to become vested in another game now just because they are abandoning ship. (Though I highly doubt very many of us will completely pass on EQNext) I know I will personally be waiting to play beta before I pre-order or at least see some concrete decision in-game.
I've been thinking of starting up a new toon in VG or EQII, will probably hit that up tonight. And since EQN won't be out for at least a year, we've still got Wildstar and TESO both of which I'll no doubt try, though I doubt I'll get invested in either. Plenty of time to tool around in other MMOs.

I can definitely see myself investing a lot of time in Landmark though, and that's just around the corner.
 

tad10

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no, what he's saying is he doesn't want to play a game where he's not needed because he is only an assassin (which is what he wants to play) and didn't bother to be an assassin/cleric/enchanter/monk/warrior hybrid. you fucking simpleton.
I think eq fans who want a real eq3 should tell soe, we will support eqnext we want your company to be successful but we want eq3 once eq next is making you money hand over fist.

The models are so different they can coexist.
 
They were very clear for atleast the past year that it wasn't going to be EverQuest HD. Anyone who is disappointed because it wasn't, really only has themselves to blame.
I honestly thought we would see EQ3 and I didn't believe SoE for a moment their hints at Sandbox and moving in a different direction. I'm glad I was wrong.
 

Drakurii

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But there will be no tanking, DPS, or crowd control. You might be called a Warrior or a Wizard or whatever but it means nothing. All that matters is you hold mouse button one and you fly through the air, destroying mobs and the ground and everything in a 1 mile radius. All mobs die in explosions. Nobody needs to tank, or control, or do anything because there are essentially no enemies.... everything dies in a second. The only way to get hurt is to go afk or something.

Remember - mouse button 1 - everything dies. That is the modern way.
https://twitter.com/EQNexus/status/363483555294228480
 

Teekey

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no, what he's saying is he doesn't want to play a game where he's not needed because he is only an assassin (which is what he wants to play) and didn't bother to be an assassin/cleric/enchanter/monk/warrior hybrid. you fucking simpleton.
So what is the difference between an Assassin being underpowered in EQ Next, or an Assassin being underpowered in any other game? At the end of the day, it's a failure on the part of the devs if any class is unbalanced (either weak or strong).

They've said if you want to be a pure class, you have that option - and it should be just as good as multiclass options.

This 'problem' could be present in any game. It has nothing to necessarily do with multiclassing.
 

etchazz

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I think eq fans who want a real eq3 should tell soe, we will support eqnext we want your company to be successful but we want eq3 once eq next us making you money hand over fist.
EQN is going to make them money hand over fist? if this game reaches anything close to the failure that was SWTOR i would call it a raving success.
 

Cinge

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Landmark will be huge, not sure if they will monetize it though. I can easily see them doing it though, you want a certain color, pay for it. Or certain objects etc.

Way too early to even think about EQ:N "making money had over fist".

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if landmark out last or out shines EQ:N.
 

tad10

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EQN is going to make them money hand over fist? i seriously just sharded. if this game reaches anything close to the failure that was SWTOR i would call it a raving success.
You're confusing what you like with what other people like. I'm telling you it is LOL the MMO + Minecraft. The average gamer will go nuts when it's complete. I don't play Minecraft much anymore, I find it dull, but I recognize that millions of people love it.

SOE should make a ton and they should take some of that money and make EQ3.
 

Teekey

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Landmark will be huge, not sure if they will monetize it though. I can easily see them doing it though, you want a certain color, pay for it. Or certain objects etc.

Way too early to even think about EQ:N "making money had over fist".

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if landmark out last or out shines EQ:N.
I believe you can make creations, and then sell the blueprints of it for SoE Cash. The best creations could have their blueprints even make their way to EverQuest Next.

From what I understand, you still have to acquire all the supplies, but to blueprints will make the creation after being bought.
 

Cinge

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I'm saying monetize landmark itself. Not selling assets to SOE for their use or for EQ:N. I'm talking about SOE making money off landmark that isn't "having players work for free". I'm talking about, you want pink bricks? You pay for it. You want some certain material or object you pay for it.

I'd say Landmark is the only sure thing atm, EQ:N is so wildly up in the air it's not even funny.
 

etchazz

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You're confusing what you like with what other people like. I'm telling you it is LOL the MMO + Minecraft. The average gamer will go nuts when it's complete. I don't play Minecraft much anymore, I find it dull, but I recognize that millions of people love it.

SOE should make a ton and they should take some of that money and make EQ3.
i'm not confusing anything. people "think" they like something, but then they realize they are wrong. see every fucking MMO that is currently out that isn't called warcraft. if this multi classing system is so awe inspiringly awesome, why is GW2 so fucking bad? if these epic events are so great, why does rift suck? if twitch based MMO's are the future, why isn't everyone playing TERA? why do you think that having an MMO orgy of all these shitty games will somehow make EQN good?