EQ Never

etchazz · Aug 3, 2013

Menion_sl said:
Players on this board and FOH before it have been screaming that DEVs keep following the same model over and over again. Now that a DEV team has the balls to change things up you are all screaming about them changing things...

I shouldn't be surprised after all these years being part of this community but WTF!

the balls to change things up? all they did is rip off every MMO currently out. rift, GW2, EVE, WoW, it's all there. how novel!

Tidbit Scaledclaw_sl · Aug 3, 2013

pyksel_sl said:
Sell heals in the store, really? Watching the panels it sounded like they want every class to have some form of dps but putting those defensive abilities (including heals) isn't out of the question. What IS out of the question is standing back staring at bars playing whack-a-mole and healing. That could change of course based on feedback but I personally don't believe it will.

I have no idea, I try not to ever speak about Gw2 but some said the Next devs want to do some shit Gw2 and call it content same with trinty and I fucking lost my mind.

Cause Gw2 is not a MMO.

Tidbit Scaledclaw_sl · Aug 3, 2013

Muligan_sl said:
Not only will you get brown but multi-levels of brown.

There is a lot of brown already you just have to look for Smokejumper jerking Smeds Ballz.

qwertyqweqwertwqert · Aug 3, 2013

slicedmass_sl said:
I hold major reservations about the game because they are implementing features (or at least variations of those features) that have failed in the past but other games have tried to implement eq features and have not done so well either so there is room for a game to suck or be good with any myriad of gameplay features. My biggest question is what is it with your insistence on trying to convince everyone the game does and will sucks dick balls? Why not just forget about it and let it ride its shit stream downhill?

It's not really like that. I think it will be a big success - just like its prequel - Guild Wars 2.

But I find it very distasteful for a lot of reasons and what bugs me the most, is that most people here can't even see it. That's all I'm doing, I'm trying to help the blind to see! I can do that, people just hate it but that's natural.

Muligan_sl said:
I'm curious just how many people are going to play other MMO's now. I know several of my friends were awaiting EQNext's timeline. It appears to be a long ways off and now that we know what we do, it will be interesting to see how people will try other games just to compare concepts. People may just attempt to become vested in another game now just because they are abandoning ship. (Though I highly doubt very many of us will completely pass on EQNext) I know I will personally be waiting to play beta before I pre-order or at least see some concrete decision in-game.

I wont try the beta because I'm wary now of games doing the ole switcheroo. I may try it at release if they swear it's not as dumb as it looks. It's free after all. But I am 99% sure at this point that it will be Guild Wars 3. So I'll be looking for other stuff to play. I actually have a lot of fun playing none MMO's, that's what I've done for the past few years. I waited like several years for another hardcore MMO, I can wait some more.

Dizzam_sl · Aug 3, 2013

This is all from tad's Q&A summary, a lot from questions about BASIC gameplay (e.g. PvP). WTF is this garbage? Do they even actually have a game? Do they even know if they can deliver on 10% of what they've talked about? Is this EVER going to actually come out?

Can?t commit to an answer.

We will talk about it.

Can?t talk about it.

We understand but not going to reveal.

Not talking about it.

Can?t talk about it now.

Haven?t made any decisions.

You?ll like the balance.

Can?t talk.

You?ll get the answer later.

Good question, not going to talk specifics.

Can?t answer.

You will see us follow through on more information in next few months.

Desirable.

Would be cool, roundtable.

We want you to play how you want and who you want. Still working on balance.

Maybe.

Please go to roundtable we want your help.

Pyksel · Aug 3, 2013

Tidbit Scaledclaw_sl said:
I have no idea, I try not to ever speak about Gw2 but some said the Next devs want to do some shit Gw2 and call it content same with trinty and I fucking lost my mind.

Cause Gw2 is not a MMO.

I wasn't talking about GW2 but to lose your mind over a statement like removing the trinity without getting the full picture is jumping the gun but I'm sure NOT jumping the gun just means one is equally naive, right?

Hmerly · Aug 3, 2013

I agree Malakriss. They did not do a good job at all of showing their player base what exactly they are doing. There are too many unknowns, nebulous answers, and things that don't make much sense. They should have waited and done the reveal later when they are better prepared, with more solid information, and better videos to show. This seems half-assed and simply not ready to show. They should've just done a reveal video with some fly throughs and thats it. Just a tease. All these panels have not really cleared up things, instead they're making a lot of the player base confused; which of course is very easy to do.

Teekey · Aug 3, 2013

Malakriss_sl said:
When doing a first premiere display presentation, the goal posts aren't generating a "wait and see" attitude in your playerbase. That's regressing all of the hype and hope buildup. There are plenty of different designs that could knock it out of the park, there are numerous other aspects that could be focused on that wouldn't immediately alienate the diehard fans who actually show up in person to these types of events.

The response is loud and clear: Sony dropped the ball on their reveal and their event. If this is the best they could do by August, they should have scrapped the pool party and waited for better.

They were very clear for atleast the past year that it wasn't going to be EverQuest HD. Anyone who is disappointed because it wasn't, really only has themselves to blame.

Pyksel · Aug 3, 2013

qwerty_sl said:
It's not really like that. I think it will be a big success - just like its prequel - Guild Wars 2.

But I find it very distasteful for a lot of reasons and what bugs me the most, is that most people here can't even see it. That's all I'm doing, I'm trying to help the blind to see! I can do that, people just hate it but that's natural.

I wont try the beta because I'm wary now of games doing the ole switcheroo. I may try it at release if they swear it's not as dumb as it looks. It's free after all. But I am 99% sure at this point that it will be Guild Wars 3. So I'll be looking for other stuff to play. I actually have a lot of fun playing none MMO's, that's what I've done for the past few years. I waited like several years for another hardcore MMO, I can wait some more.

What's there to see when so little has been revealed or set in stone?

Cinge · Aug 3, 2013

Bellringer_sl said:
From what I have heard, they are NOT selling respec's. That may change, but at the moment they are very against it.

Respect what exactly? You can find classes and can swap them out. You have a pool of abilities you swap out on a limited action bar. Was is there to respec?

tad10 · Aug 3, 2013

With respect to @qwerty, @tiled and etc. I think SOE needs to make a true successor to EQ. Call it EQ3. EQNext is really LOL the MMO meets Minecraft. Which isn't a bad idea at all, and looks pretty fun. It will scratch the roleplaying itch but I don't know if it will scratch the AD&D itch. I suspect EQ1 will take less of a hit than EQ2 of players moving to EQN.

etchazz · Aug 3, 2013

Teekey_sl said:
They were very clear for atleast the past year that it wasn't going to be EverQuest HD. Anyone who is disappointed because it wasn't, really only has themselves to blame.

exactly. i mean, why make an EQ game that's like EQ? i know when i went to see "Empire strikes back" in the theaters i was saying to myself "man, i hope this is nothing like the last star wars movie, cause that would suck."

Hachima · Aug 3, 2013

Have they said anything about what their income model is? Sure it's F2P but what is going to be the money maker? No dedicated healer so if you don't want to rest 5 min between fights you buy heal pots? Extra character slots seems like it will be out with multi classing? Bag space? XP/Craft XP pots? Vanity pets/mounts? Every crafted item needs a pay for component?

tad10 · Aug 3, 2013

Hachima_sl said:
Have they said anything about what their income model is? Sure it's F2P but what is going to be the money maker? No dedicated healer so if you don't want to rest 5 min between fights you buy heal pots? Extra character slots seems like it will be out with multi classing? Bag space? XP/Craft XP pots? Vanity pets/mounts? Every crafted item needs a pay for component?

Nope.

Pyksel · Aug 3, 2013

Muligan_sl said:
I'm curious just how many people are going to play other MMO's now. I know several of my friends were awaiting EQNext's timeline. It appears to be a long ways off and now that we know what we do, it will be interesting to see how people will try other games just to compare concepts. People may just attempt to become vested in another game now just because they are abandoning ship. (Though I highly doubt very many of us will completely pass on EQNext) I know I will personally be waiting to play beta before I pre-order or at least see some concrete decision in-game.

EQNext, Camelot Unchained, and Star Citizen are the only massively multiplayer games on my radar but the pool of current available games that have any hook in me is seriously small. I'm in multiple betas currently and have been very unimpressed with what's coming down the pipe thus far.

Tidbit Scaledclaw_sl · Aug 3, 2013

Hachima_sl said:
Have they said anything about what their income model is? Sure it's F2P but what is going to be the money maker? No dedicated healer so if you don't want to rest 5 min between fights you buy heal pots? Extra character slots seems like it will be out with multi classing? Bag space? XP/Craft XP pots? Vanity pets/mounts? Every crafted item needs a pay for component?

They will sell mounts,boats, appearance items,houseing, bag slots for sure they can make like extra 30$ per character just on bag slots unlocks 500 cash each.
I already called them selling heal pots in the cash shop like we are playing fucking Gauntlet arcade game from the 80s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Erie_sl · Aug 3, 2013

cinge_sl said:
Respect what exactly? You can find classes and can swap them out. You have a pool of abilities you swap out on a limited action bar. Was is there to respec?

Frankly, this type of shit is bs. If say, I want to play an assassin... I want to play a fucking assassin without having to have hybrid abilities to make him effective, thus diminishing the overall experience because you're not 100% assassin. Balancing is never perfect, so screw fucking hybrid classes.

Caliel · Aug 3, 2013

Hachima_sl said:
Have they said anything about what their income model is? Sure it's F2P but what is going to be the money maker? No dedicated healer so if you don't want to rest 5 min between fights you buy heal pots? Extra character slots seems like it will be out with multi classing? Bag space? XP/Craft XP pots? Vanity pets/mounts? Every crafted item needs a pay for component?

I'm sure they will make a lot of money selling extra bag and bank slots.

Pyksel · Aug 3, 2013

Erie_sl said:
Frankly, this type of shit is bs. If say, I want to play an assassin... I want to play a fucking assassin without having to have hybrid abilities to make him effective, thus diminishing the overall experience because you're not 100% assassin. Balancing is never perfect, so screw fucking hybrid classes.

If they have an assassin class why are you bitching when you can just play that class? Your first four abilities are tied to that class, period. No one is saying you have to take the hybrid abilities to make him effective because as stated in the panel it's an "economy" based multiclass system. There will be a cost associated with taking those hybrid abilities in the form of gear. You even said yourself, balance is never perfect.

Teekey · Aug 3, 2013

etchazz_sl said:
exactly. i mean, why make an EQ game that's like EQ? i know when i went to see "Empire strikes back" in the theaters i was saying to myself "man, i hope this is nothing like the last star wars movie, cause that would suck."

Why make a game to cannibalize your player bases for games that are still making money? Especially if you don't think those models will yield you greater profit in the future.

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