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tower
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I really hate that the happy medium raid size we've settled on is 20-25. That hits the exact spot Idontwant. 10-15? I know everyone and enjoy playing with them. 40+ or 72+ and I get that truly epic feeling and can make fun of all the idiot fillers with my 10-15 friends.
Really the least of my worries with this game but it still bothers me. If their combat works it will probably solve a lot of the problems I have with that size. And if doesn't I won't play long enough to get there anyway.
Really the least of my worries with this game but it still bothers me. If their combat works it will probably solve a lot of the problems I have with that size. And if doesn't I won't play long enough to get there anyway.
Cinge
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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That tweet is saying, that usual combat needs "Roles" to work, since they are not doing regular combat they don't need "Roles".
Theoretically though wizzies in groups were about a form of crowd control in the form of obscene burst damage to clear the board when things got rough, always felt it was something that could be balanced better - having a sustained dps through efficient spells that doesn't match up to the likes of melee dps but can spike a huge burst of damage at the cost of a ton of downtime (like certain mana-intensive heros in dota, the likes of skywrath mage or storm spirit). Having to make a choice between efficiency and potency just doesn't really come up in post-EQ MMOs it seems.
Grumpus
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Teekey
Mr. Poopybutthole
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They are using some sort of procedural generation for the underworld areas. They haven't really expanded on it too much, from the information I've read. I sort of hope it's not instanced, but they haven't really explained beyond that.
They're still going to have 'authored' content though, and I believe that applies to dungeons as well.
I'd +1 you for all these questions you're answering but I guess I've already done that too many times or something because it won't let me. Did they go over any of the static dungeons? There was Crushbone concept art so obviously it's in. I still can't get a grasp on what they're doing with the land mass that isn't Antonica apparently but actually seems to be. I'd like to make the conclusion that Crushbone confirms Faydwer's map, but who the fuck knows.
Lithose
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I was under the impression classes only had 4 abilities. That the mix and match was pulling skills from other classes. So a rogue "standard" kit comes with say (Example) Sprint (M), Back Stab (O), Gut Shank (O), Pick Pockets (U). (And of course access to certain armor/weapon types) Now if you go find the Wizard class, you can yank his Teleport spell for your mobility slot, if you want (And your gear supports it.)
I was under the impression the tiers were just for attribute upgrades (Because you can't get them from gear) and having access to more advanced weapons and armor. (And maybe leveling up skills? I thought they mentioned skills would become a bit stronger in higher tiers--so a tier 3 rogues movement skill is stronger than a T1).
Grim1
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Managing DPS issues is a trap that the devs continually fall into. If they create decent encounters that have enough unpredictable interruptions then DPS becomes less important than reacting to the interruption. Hopefully the storybook stuff does that and not in a predictable way. Scripted encounters can provide the interruptions but they are too predictable and that predictability defeats the purpose of lessening the importance of DPS.
Good groups not only are efficient but they also can deal with sudden emergencies (the tard who pulls half the zone into your camp) and survive. When that happens it is usually the tank, healer, or cc class that saves the day. Maybe all of them. And it is usually the dps class that is on the ground waiting for a rez.
Teekey
Mr. Poopybutthole
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I think content should be designed around 6 group members, 12 raid members, and 24-30 raid members.
Honestly 72+ is a fucking pain in the ass. BUT this is where I can see Rallying Calls really creating epic raids, because it's sort of a calling for the entire server to gather and do together.
Personally, I would really like to see some truly epic Rallying Call Raid Mobs/Events. And in fact, I think they should be one-time server events that go along with the Lore. Everyone who participates gets rewarded in some fashion, perhaps a few lucky people get extra bonuses. Once that boss is dead, they never return. They can be like Sleeper-style events, but if you miss one, there will be more down the line.
xzi
Mouthbreather
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If this is the case, I'm okay with it. As long as they don't fully 100% get rid of it, that's totally fine. I don't see them getting rid of it with all the classes anyways. I would just like to see some combat on how people play with each other though, unfortunately I know I'm going to be waiting a while for that. But they did have a telegraph system it seemed in the first presentation so if they pull off AI and combat properly it could really work.
Lithose
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The real question is going to be if any weapons, or hand slot items, can heal. If not, then even if you have a class with 4 support slots (Util/defense), it's still going to be a DPS with weak support. However, if there are weapons that heal, and support, then you can have a more well rounded support character.
Common consumables that give you a definite advantage such as healing potions being bought with real money. This stuff is acceptable now? I do believe that would be one of the reasons that I would abandon all hope for this game. Skins, bag slots, pets, cosmetic junk, house junk, fluff and the like is fine by me, but seeing things like healing pots, weapons, armor, etc. throws up gigantic red flags to me. I'm even slightly iffy with exp pots and damage pots. I hear PS2 cash shop doesn't offer any kinds of significant advantage, but I don't play PS2, so I can't confirm. I hope they choose wisely.
Teekey
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I think they sort of exploit that shit in their old dead games that no one gives a shit about (Vanguard).
None of those old games have Landmark Blueprints to fill their wallets. And I don't think they could get away with it in newer games where people actually care about (Planetside 2, EverQuest Next).
So at this point, what is the next thing we are waiting for? EQL beta to start? Open the official forums? Meaningful polls on roundtable? Another event where they release more information?
They dont sell health pots for SC in EQ1, they do a pretty good job of making sure its just cosmetic bullshit. The only thing remotely good you can buy is XP pots, but honestly XP is such a small part of EQ at this point and it is really just a minor convenience for the few days that you spend leveling every 6 months.
we are waiting for EQNL which is sometime this winter. Personally I feel at gamescon they will announce the ps4's release date and then announce day 1 or whatever you will be able to play EQNL. Thats my guess though and lots of people believe what they say about it being made around pc and then they will think about consoles. Except 8 skill slots screams controller and even more so ps2 being on console with the same engine screams it too.
Grumpus
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I can't wait to read these. The people on the official EQ forums are some of the stupidest mother fuckers you will ever read. Serious entertainment to be had there.
Before the reveal people were arguing if the devs read these forums. Could you imagine being given the job of reading through the last 100 pages here to find and decent info? Mother of god I would kill myself.
