EQ Never

Big Flex_sl said:

They stated in the panels that mining, tunneling, etc was currently functional and "in game", I wonder why they didn't showcase it?

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They are revealing stuff at Gamescon and Pax. That's in like two weeks and four weeks. Or whatever.

tad10_sl said:

They are revealing stuff at Gamescon and Pax. That's in like two weeks and four weeks. Or whatever.

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g'narly.

Their actual main problem was their build up to the show
then revealing shit that actually matters other than the "hey here's
some minecraft in with your EQ".

PVP ? Can't answer that.
Classes ? Can't answer that.
Rulesets for servers? Can't answer that.
Anything actually gameplay related ? Can't answer that. But we fucking hate healers.

They shouldn't have built it up to be the big reveal until they
actaully were ready to reveal something.

I dunno maybe it means nothing but seeing those mobs just sit there and do nothing while they were being attack just seemed like a huge indicator the game is SO far from being even close to playable.. It honestly looked like it was a demo you'd pitch to someone to fund the rest.

DMK_sl said:

I dunno maybe it means nothing but seeing those mobs just sit there and do nothing while they were being attack just seemed like a huge indicator the game is SO far from being even close to playable.. It honestly looked like it was a demo you'd pitch to someone to fund the rest.

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The EQ1 alpha footage everyone keeps posting to calm jimmies was exactly that, it was made exclusively to show to shareholders.. and that had a dude fighting Nagafan.

DMK_sl said:

I dunno maybe it means nothing but seeing those mobs just sit there and do nothing while they were being attack just seemed like a huge indicator the game is SO far from being even close to playable.. It honestly looked like it was a demo you'd pitch to someone to fund the rest.

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That's never stopped them from releasing a game before

A little birdie told me March of 2016 release. No need to upgrade rig quite so soon.

Furious_sl said:

A little birdie told me March of 2016 release. No need to upgrade rig quite so soon.

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Your bird lied to you. Smack her a little.

tad10_sl said:

Yeah if you're going to play this game, you kinda have to play on a PvP server. But I think all servers are going to be RP servers according to the SB boys.

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good luck with that if youre chasing the dota crowd

Lost Ranger_sl said:

The "old school crowd" isn't big enough to make anything fail. Even if every single EQ1 fan decides not to play this game it won't make any difference. This game is appealing to a market that dwarfs the old school crowd. If this appeals to LoL players at all then their potential market base even dwarfs WoW. Like it or not the EQ fan club was never a consideration for this game. Which is what people were trying to explain before the game was even shown. People were saying to manage your expectations because this game was ALWAYS going to be designed with the greatest number of customers possible in mind.

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I don't disagree, but this also explains why they would never make an EQ3 or EQ: Reskinned. There isn't enough market share to warrant it.

Yeah this EQ3 thing is a pipedream. Your best hope is that they're able to gather enough slaves from Landmark to make a subset of EQN into that for you.

Dahkoht_sl said:

PVP ? Can't answer that.
Classes ? Can't answer that.
Rulesets for servers? Can't answer that.
Anything actually gameplay related ? Can't answer that. But we fucking hate healers.

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Can't and aren't are two very different words and I think maybe you should look them up.

You don't blow your entire content load at the alpha reveal.

tower_sl said:

Yeah this EQ3 thing is a pipedream. Your best hope is that they're able to gather enough slaves from Landmark to make a subset of EQN into that for you.

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Obligatory.

tad10_sl said:

Your bird lied to you. Smack her a little.

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He's probably not correct, but you don't necessarily know different at this point. It looked woefully incomplete.

I'd personally expect around November of 2014 at earliest. And I could easily buy q1 2015 because of the level of ideas they're going after.

What defines "Everquest"?

To me EQ is a massively multiplayer online role playing game that is set on the planet of Norrath. It features races such as Humans, Elves, Gnomes, Trolls, Ogres and Iksar. There is a history in which the Ring of Scale, Shissar, Combine Empire, Venril Sathir, etc. play major roles and where Gods and different Planes are a major influence.

Nothing in my worldview discredits a game with destructible environments, multiclassing, or Rally Calls from being "Everquest". Indeed when I played EQ I was very keen on the ways in which the world was effected by long term change. There were hints with things like Paineel emerging and the Hole being discovered or the opening up of Kunark and Velious...but these were all just expansions and the rest of the world stayed depressingly static and made it seem less real. To that extent I would think the promise of Real Change and constant evolution would make a game MORE like Everquest than not.

Now of course a great many things depend on the actual implementation of their ideas, but even I can see many ways in which the skeleton they have outlined can become a VERY revolutionary title and reinvigorate the whole MMORPG genre. Certainly what they have sketched sounds more like a place to go and want to be rather than a game I boot up just so I can sit in town waiting for the evening's raid.

Lenas_sl said:

Can't and aren't are two very different words and I think maybe you should look them up.

You don't blow your entire content load at the alpha reveal.

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They specifically said they wanted to save some reveals for Gamescon, PAX, etc.

Marketing wants a constant news stream, I'm sure.

Caeden_sl said:

He's probably not correct, but you don't necessarily know different at this point. It looked woefully incomplete.

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I'd say that any info I might or might not have was so up in the air because of the SP cartoon above that I might as well not have any info. But I'm pretty comfortable with saying prior to March 2016.

I will add that the example of the "Founding of Halas" Rallying Call should have given you guys a clue as to what kind of state EQN will be at release.

Vandyn_sl said:

I don't disagree, but this also explains why they would never make an EQ3 or EQ: Reskinned. There isn't enough market share to warrant it.

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Yeah I doubt we ever see EQ reskinned, or hardcore EQ3. However, their idea of making art assets in EQ:L is probably not a bad idea. If some really talented people start making some amazing stuff from EQ1 then maybe it could happen. It would take some serious dedication from a lot of people to pull off though. SOE wouldn't even consider it until there was TONS of professional grade stuff available for them.

I think the kick in the balls for those people will come when SOE uses those designs in EQ:N though. That would be some comedy gold.

I'd love to be in a Titan development meeting now. Say whatever you want about EQN, it did through down a bit of a creative gauntlet. Blizzard and SoE are still the heavyweights in the genre. Could be an interesting few years that might just redefine things a bit.

DMK_sl said:

I dunno maybe it means nothing but seeing those mobs just sit there and do nothing while they were being attack just seemed like a huge indicator the game is SO far from being even close to playable.. It honestly looked like it was a demo you'd pitch to someone to fund the rest.

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yea, that bugged me too, as i was watching the reveal, i was like.. umm are the mobs just going to stand there like bowling pings for him to run though. Admittedly he was demo'ing an ability to plow through mobs... but when has anyone ever seen mobs line up perfectly for a running shield bash attack....

Regardless, should not have the name EQ, behind it, totally agree. Perhaps "Heroes Adventures" as a new IP for them and keep EQ3 producing in the background.