Yep; they don't have time to play another game like Everquest, they don't want to play a game like Everquest Next, so basically they want another WoW clone. But they want it to be like Everquest. But not hard or with any sense of attachment or time investment, like Everquest. But hard, like Dark Souls. But they don't want it to be pay-2-win, but they want to buy all of the classes (pretty much the purpose of the game).
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One city to start with no other settlements because we just got off the boat from wherever the fuck the dragons chased us to and now were resettling the lands and taking them back from dragons. I'm down.
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Actually, we just don't want to have TOR 2.0 in gaming shelf life due to retarded design decisions that would/could never be corrected before the call to abandon ship hits the passengers.
We want a game that would be worth a sub price, but goes F2P without the cash register tolls at every opportunity.
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I'm founding Grobb, and building a statue of Jeff Butler's wife blowing his old guild's Main Tank where that chained up dwarf used to be by the bank. Whos with me?
Customer service will be cool with it because you won't actually see the dick, because it'll be in her mouth. Tasteful.
Sounds exactly like what I read about Blizzard on other sites. Point being developers get trashed all the time. It's not easy to make these games. They are complex and cannot possibly please everyone.
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Did you or anyone in anyway see all of EQN coming? No. Me neither, and if you go back you'll see I predicted 60-70% of EQN and totally missed EQN/L. So clearly SOE is doing things differently with regards to this product.
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Exactly the vibe I got with the "Mos Eisley" comment. Founding Halas, Neriak, etc. etc. Neriak could be interesting because the "good guys" will be trying to stop the "bad guys" from founding it (well if SOE is smart and brings back Innoruuk for the DEs).
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One of the biggest jimmy rustlers I experienced during the panels when they said you couldn't intervene during the "Founding of Halas" or aid the bad guys in that scenario. So, don't bet on it.
Yea I can't see that happening. bought the best I could hope for is them allowing me to grief the people working on it on a pvp server.
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Agreed. I wasn't fond of the whole Qeynos and Freeport thing in EQ2, but if we're starting in just a couple cities at launch so that we can go out and build the rest of the cities, and have them become starting locations, well that sounds pretty awesome.
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Well get unrustled BIG FLEX cause they said you can intervene. You can slow the progress but you can't ultimately stop it.
tad10
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You can't stop the founding of cities, but you can slow it way down. They even gave the example of a server that simply wasn't progressing. There doesn't appear to be an AQ like auto-advance feature.
I'm actually with you and prefer the - we can stop it entirely - but SOE wants its story to progress, so it will progress, albeit potentially very slowly.
Edit: Beaten by multiple folks - lol
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The difference is this board ACTUALLY went through things like cloth caps, alchemy and tons of other things where the developer simply lied--until they shut down their own boards to prevent the need for any explanations (Donals BP, lulz). We're not talking about failing to deliver on promises--we're talking aboutactive deceit, that was only allowed because they knew they were the only game in town.
Anyone comparing SoE's early years, to even Kotick's Blizzard, is either an delusional, or never experienced what the industry was like before competition enforced a kind of minimum standard. I mean, it's like comparing Mad Max with Baltimore, both are bad, but early SoE is the thunderdome of MMO bullshit.
But anyway, back to the point. Smed and company have been caught bold faced lying about products before--not missing targets or over-promising, but actual lies about supposedly finished products. Why do they get the benefit of the doubt now?
I'm with you on being excited about a change in culture and direction that I saw. But I'm also taking what I see at face value, because essentially every speaker on that stage has, again, lied about a product I have purchased before. So I can be excited at the possibilities--but no one here should think these guys have anything other than ideas and a drive right now. Until they actually show some completed AI and zones? Their track record should indicate they are fluffing, or outright being deceitful.
And again, don't get me wrong, their ideas are exciting, the technology they showed was exciting, even how they SEEM to be making a game they want is exciting...However, their promises that X or Y is done and they are just "waiting" to show it off? heh.No. That even felt like bullshit. (Deep down, you know it to bro. The dark side is strong in Smed.)
Majority of the feedback I have seen about this game has been very negative. It is not a good sign when after a reveal, players rip your game design to pieces.
It is a horrible concept. I only play online games while watching trading charts...so makes no difference to me ultimately. It isnt my career and reputation to ruin....they can do as they please. You mistake my interest as tears. From a business perspective, I just dont see the logic and it is an interesting case study in company failure. In case you didnt know....they are currently failing as a company and this will only cement their demise.
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Collecting classes AKA abilities is functionally identical to collecting spells which is a staple of the genre.
Only difference is the degree of adjustment it allows but with abilities being tied to items and equipping restricted by class its not going to be that overboard most likely.
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The purpose of this game is PvE.
-Quests (Authored Content)
-Progressing Storyline (Rallying Calls)
-Exploring regenerating content (Digging into the ground)
-Hanging out with NPCs and developing relationships with them (SB Dynamic Content)
Collecting classes is one method of advancing your character, in addition to collecting items and abilities for your current class and doing things (quests) that generate xp for tiering up your class.
It hasn't been stressed enough but when you get a class, or even a starting class, you only get a subset of your total abilities. Maybe just 4. And you've go to go out and collect the other class abilities.
]The combination of the cheesy pony tail guy, straight up Disney art, world destruction, and multi classing left a bad taste in my mouth.
You forgot to add ole ponytail.
Turn off the audio and just look at the guy on the right. He is funny and drunk. He keeps looking around, completely in his own little world while others are talking. Just look at his eyes and face. You can see his inner dialogue about his water bottle. Here? No, here. No, back again.
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Again, Pokemon. You can work on making your little anime lizard into a big dragon or you can go collect more types of Pokemon--I mean classes. But there is also an additional layer of gearing for further augment the classes. So it's kind of like a persistent league of legends game, IF league placed more emphasis on finding champs=power.
In the end though, finding classes is going to be roughly equivalent to leveling in other games. It's just a different kind of power increase.
In the end though, finding classes is going to be roughly equivalent to leveling in other games. It's just a different kind of power increase.