Summary: We really have no idea how we're gonna do this yet.
Thank goodness it's fun to build shit, cause everything else really does appear to be ideas on napkins right now.
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Summary: We really have no idea how we're gonna do this yet.
Thank goodness it's fun to build shit, cause everything else really does appear to be ideas on napkins right now.
PS - sorry if this was already posted, I didn't check. Somewhat interesting blog post from the voxel guy about water (which is more or less on a napkin as well at the moment):
Procedural World: Water bodies
Procedural World: Water bodies
Cinge
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A mod made a poll iirc and the vast majority said no, keep it all in one thread. I voted separate also, but what can you do.
arallu
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I thought it was because "Sup guys. Let's talk about this."
And also because marketing. Look at the last time they did this. One dev tweets "eqn permadeath" or some shit and it sent everyone into a fucking frenzy.
popsicledeath
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Mr Creed
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They are probably running out ideas for a weekly or however often they them video. Maybe they finally realized that the closet full of napkins isnt going to turn into a game within a few months just because they want it that way and are now starting some programming work, who knows.
About splitting the thread, I think that's the way to go. I figure EQNL will get some activity especially once alpha goes live, while anything solid about EQN is nearly a year away (after SOE live '14). That kinda makes this the EQNL thread regardless of title. Only problem I see is as interwoven as the games are, there might be so much cross-over talk that its easier to keep both in one thread instead of mod it weekly.
About splitting the thread, I think that's the way to go. I figure EQNL will get some activity especially once alpha goes live, while anything solid about EQN is nearly a year away (after SOE live '14). That kinda makes this the EQNL thread regardless of title. Only problem I see is as interwoven as the games are, there might be so much cross-over talk that its easier to keep both in one thread instead of mod it weekly.
Lleauaric
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It isnt hard to imagine them paying players for really excellent content they do in landmark and putting it in EQN. Would paying a player $5000.00 for an actualized raid dungeon be that far fetched? Im sure it would save them alot on overhead and create a situation where players are climbing all over themselves to create really incredible stuff. Win/Win
Livestream tomorrow. I want to see something old school built but they'll probably recreate the scene in ET where he's in a bike basket in front of the moon.
Convo
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I asked for Mistmoore Castle.. who knows..
So I keep thinking about this EQL stuff and what benefits there might be to early entry.. I dunno... the stuff that seems to be able to make you money really comes from what you design.. your location won't matter much.. I wish they would of rolled out more info before they put those packages out there.. but maybe that's why?
So I keep thinking about how crazy this really is.. $100 to test an alpha.. We are paying them to "help" them test their game? WTF is going on here lol.. then we help them build content for EQN which they save money on and figure out additional ways to nickle and dime us.. Seriously.. this FTP thing is only going to get worse lol.. it plays on our gamer desires way too much.. Sweeten the pot and throw EQN alpha in there at least.. Fuck we all need to stop encouraging this kind of shit.
So I keep thinking about this EQL stuff and what benefits there might be to early entry.. I dunno... the stuff that seems to be able to make you money really comes from what you design.. your location won't matter much.. I wish they would of rolled out more info before they put those packages out there.. but maybe that's why?
So I keep thinking about how crazy this really is.. $100 to test an alpha.. We are paying them to "help" them test their game? WTF is going on here lol.. then we help them build content for EQN which they save money on and figure out additional ways to nickle and dime us.. Seriously.. this FTP thing is only going to get worse lol.. it plays on our gamer desires way too much.. Sweeten the pot and throw EQN alpha in there at least.. Fuck we all need to stop encouraging this kind of shit.
Cinge
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I don't think things will be lump sum like that. Most likely its built around how many players use it/buy it and then its on a % base. Which will probably be the low end, like 10-20%.
Way too late for that. Just look at the EQ store for EQ housing for a lot more monetizing. Housing/Building is such a huge opportunity to literally sell anything for $. Anything that is good/cool you have to buy with more $ or they come from their TCG packs(which I wouldn't be shocked if the TCG isn't rolled into EQ:N and Landmark also) and also from "packages/vet awards".
It's kind of funny, because more then likely the people who bitch about monthly subs probably actually spend a lot more playing FTP games. I think the days of buying a game and paying a sub and getting EVERYTHING that can be possible in the game by in game means is over.
Quaid
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As someone who has sold their account in games where real estate is both a permanent feature in the world, and a limited resource, I can assure you that your plot has value. I've seen accounts with property in the right places in games sold for 5 figures. But ya, if you don't plan on selling your account ever I guess it has no real value.
Randin
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Eh. The grand absurdity of the roundtable has been that they've been asking for feedback on things that they've already settled internally. Actually asking for opinions at a point in which said opinions could be taken into account during development is a nice change of pace. We'll see if they'll actually use it at all.
Quaid
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Based on what they said it sounds like:
1. No level loss. May still mean xp loss.
2. No armor loss/recovery
3. Definite 'corpse run'
4. Tons of people are gonna be able to Rez your ass
Definitely not the level of punishment I was hoping for. Every bit of information they give me about EQN makes me think I won't even play it. EQN:L looks sweet though, so it depends how much that hooks me.
Lleauaric
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Idk... Don't pay for it. They aren't forcing you to do anything. Wait a year and play it in gold version for free. I paid the 100.00 to get access, but I won't be submitting feedback or doing anything other trying to build as much of Rome circa 100 AD as possible. Nor am I building content for them. They wanna buy my shit... Cool... But I'm not taking orders.
Money isn't an issue really, I thought 60.00 was too much to pay for BF4, but I'm fine with 100.00 for this. I'll be playing a year early, I'll get bunch of crap and I'll have 4 invites to give to friends.
/shrug. It's a tank and half of gas for my truck.
Btw.. And old EW/Karana players from vanilla - sov days, shoot me a pm and I'll give you one of my time limited beta keys once it all gets going.