Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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Vorph
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Maybe. There's the mace of thorns (78 ATK and another man-eater to stack, plus 30% poison proc) from Antenolla trial which is already long overdue, and unless they go fucking around with the order again it will be the next trial after Great Demon.
I'm working on Rising Sun #1 now and will be swapping in #2 as soon as Dual Wield is done. I hope she's good enough to make it worth all that effort. I find myself using Lightning+mages for everything these days.
Edit: actually, the more I think about it, I'm probably only going to use CoD vs. humans, where she would get +225% damage with Man-eater, Man-Eater+, Mace of Thorns, and Diabolos. Probably not much point in bothering with a second Rising Sun when I could be doing Excalibur #2 instead.
I'm working on Rising Sun #1 now and will be swapping in #2 as soon as Dual Wield is done. I hope she's good enough to make it worth all that effort. I find myself using Lightning+mages for everything these days.
Edit: actually, the more I think about it, I'm probably only going to use CoD vs. humans, where she would get +225% damage with Man-eater, Man-Eater+, Mace of Thorns, and Diabolos. Probably not much point in bothering with a second Rising Sun when I could be doing Excalibur #2 instead.
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Vorph
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FYI to people planning to pull for Refia when we get the FF3 event, she and a couple other upcoming healers have the same material reqs as Rosa. Better to buy the set(s) of 13 brilliant rays and 8 wicked drops with candy corn rather than have to hope they drop in CoA Pro.
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Gavinmad
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In case any of you feel inclined to dismiss Vorph's warning, I'd like to remind you of the 520 energy it took me to get 13 brilliant drops from pro awakening.
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Sinzar
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Good tip about stocking up on the 4* evo mats. I went ahead and bought 40 of each, since 15 mats per 18 energy is way better ratio than farming them for ~6 mats per 20 energy from the vortex.
I think I'm basically done with the candy farming. I've bought all of the discounted 6* mats, the mask, bag, cactuars, crystals, quartz, tickets, and all of the un-craftable consumables like elixirs and phoenix downs.
I'm skipping the knife (it's for new players, worthless to those of us who have 5+ better weapons), the moogles (they are worse ratio per energy than farming), and the limit burst pots. I'm still unsure about my decision to skip the pots though. It would take about 2 days worth of energy to farm them all, which could be better spent on 15-20% TM farming across my team. Maybe 3,000 LB exp is worth more than some TM? I'm not sure...
I think I'm basically done with the candy farming. I've bought all of the discounted 6* mats, the mask, bag, cactuars, crystals, quartz, tickets, and all of the un-craftable consumables like elixirs and phoenix downs.
I'm skipping the knife (it's for new players, worthless to those of us who have 5+ better weapons), the moogles (they are worse ratio per energy than farming), and the limit burst pots. I'm still unsure about my decision to skip the pots though. It would take about 2 days worth of energy to farm them all, which could be better spent on 15-20% TM farming across my team. Maybe 3,000 LB exp is worth more than some TM? I'm not sure...
Vorph
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I read a long time ago (pre-6* release) that Lightning's Crushing Blow didn't work with Dual Wield, so I never really used it much unless I needed the debuff. Oops:
I went with 20 pots so far, since it will get my Cecil exactly to LB 10 when combined with a 25% rate on LBs while TM farming. Might give the rest to my 3* Lenna, or I could just skip them. Something I noticed while doing ES Exit manually for daily quests--if you go without a friend unit, Cecil's LB rate is more like 80% or more. The macro I use doesn't allow me to do that though, since it needs to click the third friend in the list because the same spot is where a pop-up that needs to be cleared sometimes is located. If I could insert a second click on the spot where the "Proceed without friend" box is it might work though. No idea how to do that without re-recording the whole macro though and I'm still not aware of all the extra clicks needed to make the macro foolproof.
Still somewhat torn on whether to get the first moogle to speed up DW completion at the expense of the other 4 or just say fuck it to both of them. I think I'll wait and see how efficient PRO turns out to be, though it's very likely it will be worse than ADV.
I went with 20 pots so far, since it will get my Cecil exactly to LB 10 when combined with a 25% rate on LBs while TM farming. Might give the rest to my 3* Lenna, or I could just skip them. Something I noticed while doing ES Exit manually for daily quests--if you go without a friend unit, Cecil's LB rate is more like 80% or more. The macro I use doesn't allow me to do that though, since it needs to click the third friend in the list because the same spot is where a pop-up that needs to be cleared sometimes is located. If I could insert a second click on the spot where the "Proceed without friend" box is it might work though. No idea how to do that without re-recording the whole macro though and I'm still not aware of all the extra clicks needed to make the macro foolproof.
Still somewhat torn on whether to get the first moogle to speed up DW completion at the expense of the other 4 or just say fuck it to both of them. I think I'll wait and see how efficient PRO turns out to be, though it's very likely it will be worse than ADV.
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Gavinmad
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My guess is that pro will technically be more efficient than adv, but it will be so much harder that it won't actually be better than adv for the vast majority of players. Bringing an average geared 6* lightning with chiri along, I can easily kill the rider by the third turn, and that's with Cecil along who almost always absorbs the attacks in round 2 with provoke, which means vivi almost always stays alive to boost the chain on turns 2 and 3 with dual fira. Besides, the only units I could replace Cecil with would be Rain, Shantotto, or take the time to level the second Terra I pulled yesterday.
That being said, it really wouldn't take much extra hp and def/spr on the rider to slow my kill speed down a turn or two, at which point I'm racing the death timer. If I can consistently drop pro rider without having to wait on one of the excaliwhales on my friends list, great, but I suspect I won't be able to. I'll pull out all the stops for the completion bonus, but I suspect I'll be sticking with adv after that.
That being said, it really wouldn't take much extra hp and def/spr on the rider to slow my kill speed down a turn or two, at which point I'm racing the death timer. If I can consistently drop pro rider without having to wait on one of the excaliwhales on my friends list, great, but I suspect I won't be able to. I'll pull out all the stops for the completion bonus, but I suspect I'll be sticking with adv after that.
Vorph
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Yeah, just going by JP info, and they said that when events add a final stage halfway through it's never been worth farming. Gumi could always change that and make PRO drop more though. 1700 is needed to equal ADV, anything 2000 and up would make it worthwhile for sure.
Great Demon stuff: According to some people on reddit Void Vessel is fixed damage, meaning there's no need to drag along a gimp unit with Throw for the trial. (Assuming you were playing back when we had the Rod of Gravity event.)
Great Demon stuff: According to some people on reddit Void Vessel is fixed damage, meaning there's no need to drag along a gimp unit with Throw for the trial. (Assuming you were playing back when we had the Rod of Gravity event.)
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I don't need enough to try and farm a more efficient Pro. My plan is to do it once for the clear rewards and then go back to ADV.
I'm about to start buying Limit Pots. I already took Cecil to max 6 star but awhile back I pulled a second Exdeath and he has a really good LB. so I'll funnel the pots into my 3 star Exdeath and, eventually, replace my current Exdeath with him.
I'm about to start buying Limit Pots. I already took Cecil to max 6 star but awhile back I pulled a second Exdeath and he has a really good LB. so I'll funnel the pots into my 3 star Exdeath and, eventually, replace my current Exdeath with him.
Vorph
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Yeah, I don't really need it either. Only considering it because I'm hitting the brakes on candy corn today and going back to TMs until Thursday. If PRO is actually better I'll use it to get the last few things after I do the story, if not then no big deal.
Exdeath's 6* isn't too far off. Even with his gear selection being shit it'll still be worth using as many multiples of him as you have so I wouldn't plan on replacing. The LB is a good point though. My second Exdeath is still sitting at 3* so I think I'll give him the other 10 pots instead of Lenna.
Exdeath's 6* isn't too far off. Even with his gear selection being shit it'll still be worth using as many multiples of him as you have so I wouldn't plan on replacing. The LB is a good point though. My second Exdeath is still sitting at 3* so I think I'll give him the other 10 pots instead of Lenna.
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Tip for Exdeath. Give him the Equip Hat materia. My Exdeath is sitting at 383 MAG right now. I know Kefka can be a bit higher but I think Exdeath is better overall but that might just be my bias. I like how tanky he is and having all three elements as a GA is really nice.
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Angelwatch
what are you equipping on Exdeath?I'm still farming, and I think it's gonna take a while since I'm just doing ADV explo instead of rider.
I've already taken:
All the metal cactaurs
All of the star quartz
6* mats to evolve Cecil
The first set of summon tickets
I'm planning on getting:
All of Screamroot/Fine Alcryst (3k)
All of the summon tickets (27k)
One of each materia for BCLid (28k)
Mask (27k)
Candy Basket (18k)
Knife (8k)
and some spare 6*/5* if I get all of those goals. That's 111k candy yet... how the fuck did you guys do it? Are you skipping the daily tasks (or just earthshrining them?), or are you just botting it?
Angelwatch
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Lilith Rod, Stellar Shield, Creepy Mask, 20% Earrings, 15% Halloween Basket and 3 10% MAG materias. Ramuh is built for max MAG.
With another Earring I could bump that up another 5 or 6 points and the new Trial Rod will add another 12 when I get it.
With another Earring I could bump that up another 5 or 6 points and the new Trial Rod will add another 12 when I get it.
Vorph
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My Kefka is 405 now, 417 on Thurs once we get the new rod. Exdeath is capping out at 370 if I give him Ramuh, Kefka's Earrings and Lilith Rod, and 389 if I take the Creepy Mask as well (with Equip Hat instead of 10% MAG), then it'd be 401 on Thurs. However that leaves Kefka with only 340 (365 Thurs) MAG, and also dings my Tellah and Kefka #2 a bit as well.
Basically it's:
Today (Exdeath focused) - 300 / 304 / 340 / 389.
Thurs (Exdeath focused) - 300 / 313 / 365 / 401.
Today (Kefka focused) - 302 / 307 / 321/ 405.
Thurs (Kefka focused) - 302 / 316 / 346 / 417.
Since the magic damage formula is quadratic just like physical, it's better to focus on Kefka for now. Even if I use Repeat a lot, the average MAG across the 4 units is almost identical so it won't have any effect. Plus I use Equip Hat on Vaan, who gets 11 ATK from it (Tiger Mask vs. Barbut). If you use less than 4 mages, giving Equip Hat to Exdeath may be more viable since nobody gets stuck having to equip a 10 MAG Mage's Hat.
Basically it's:
Today (Exdeath focused) - 300 / 304 / 340 / 389.
Thurs (Exdeath focused) - 300 / 313 / 365 / 401.
Today (Kefka focused) - 302 / 307 / 321/ 405.
Thurs (Kefka focused) - 302 / 316 / 346 / 417.
Since the magic damage formula is quadratic just like physical, it's better to focus on Kefka for now. Even if I use Repeat a lot, the average MAG across the 4 units is almost identical so it won't have any effect. Plus I use Equip Hat on Vaan, who gets 11 ATK from it (Tiger Mask vs. Barbut). If you use less than 4 mages, giving Equip Hat to Exdeath may be more viable since nobody gets stuck having to equip a 10 MAG Mage's Hat.
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Gavinmad
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I'm just about to max Edge but from reading the guide, is there any reason I shouldn't just bring 8 bomb fragments instead of Edge? From reading the guide you just have to drop him before you confirm 10 actions to avoid 10k needles, which means I could take a normal party and kill the gigantaur with the storebought garbage.
Kind of annoyed that I didn't realize this before getting Edge to lvl 78.
Vorph
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Not sure, but Kongbakpao claims Bomb Fragment, Zeus’s Wrath, Fish Scale, Giant Feather, or Earth Drum will work.
Edit: For the rest of it, bear in mind that JP didn't even have Kefka or Chizuru, let alone any 6* units when they got this trial. Unless Gumi buffs it significantly it's going to be a complete joke once you get past the cactuar gimmick.
Edit: For the rest of it, bear in mind that JP didn't even have Kefka or Chizuru, let alone any 6* units when they got this trial. Unless Gumi buffs it significantly it's going to be a complete joke once you get past the cactuar gimmick.
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