Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius

Sinzar · Oct 21, 2016

Oh snap, I've always been a fan of Agrias back from FFT. Her going 6* is awesome, doubly so for me since I can't seem to pull like any top tier physical dps at all except the 1 CoD.

My mage team on Pumpkin guy was nice, but after trying a pure physical setup, it seems better. Lenna uses cheer then imperil (bringing boss down to -40% fire resist) then Cecil with barrage, doublehand, chirijaeden, devil killer, and plant killer (ifrit) + Lightning friend with heat blitz mega burns him down fast, letting me 2 turn him.

Vorph · Oct 21, 2016

At this point I'm hoping that when we finally get the BF collab event it will have been delayed enough that they just release the 6* immediately. Otherwise we've got a long delay (1.5 months late already) and then another long ass wait for Tilith's 6*.

fris · Oct 22, 2016

got my cecil to 6* and lvl 85. few more cacus to pull, saving incase i get enough mats to 6* my Delita. My Exdeath and Garland seem almost useless for this event as neither do real damage to the pumpkin rider. I can't clear Adv w/ my team, not sure if Int Pumpkin is better candies than Castle advance for candies

Vorph · Oct 22, 2016

INT rider is ~500 corn for 13 NRG, and ADV explore 735-1334 corn for 18 NRG, so the ADV is a lot more efficient.

Exdeath should be doing good damage with Firaga, but mages only work in teams of 3+ so that they can get elemental chains going. If you're using mage chains in the ADV explore, drop down to -ara spells so that you don't run out of MP.

Garland can also do high damage if you have Chirijiraden to give him.

Gavinmad · Oct 22, 2016

fris said:
got my cecil to 6* and lvl 85. few more cacus to pull, saving incase i get enough mats to 6* my Delita. My Exdeath and Garland seem almost useless for this event as neither do real damage to the pumpkin rider. I can't clear Adv w/ my team, not sure if Int Pumpkin is better candies than Castle advance for candies

Halloween Event Spreadsheet.xlsx

adv castle is 42 per energy, int rider is 37 per energy.

ADV Colosseum finished this morning, although obviously I still need to repeat ranks 3, 4, and 5 until I get the mats I need. My routine for anything that isn't poison immune is my Turtle Blaster strategy (patent pending). WoL full breaks everything, Butts imperils, Cecil for provoke/focus/healing, Lenna and Exdeath spam bio blaster. Works on everything except Antlion and Europa, and makes the double wyrm waves in s4 pretty easy. Would probably also work just fine with Charlotte in place of Cecil, would just need heals from Butts/Exdeath/Lenna sometimes.

You also don't need a high mag score since all you need is for bio blaster to land the poison effect, so you can run your most durable combo of five units and have 2-4 bio blasters equipped.

Angelwatch · Oct 22, 2016

If you don't have some Lightning friends you should get some. Just drop a few of yours and go to add friend. For every open slot add about 5 Lightnings until you're full.

Ao- · Oct 22, 2016

Vorph said:
INT rider is ~500 corn for 13 NRG, and ADV explore 735-1334 corn for 18 NRG, so the ADV is a lot more efficient.

Exdeath should be doing good damage with Firaga, but mages only work in teams of 3+ so that they can get elemental chains going. If you're using mage chains in the ADV explore, drop down to -ara spells so that you don't run out of MP.

Garland can also do high damage if you have Chirijiraden to give him.

Yeah, ADV explore is pretty easy if you're willing to burn 4000 gil per run... You can have a 450+ atk 6* lightning friend clear every non-boss wave with heat blitz and just feed two turbo ethers during the run.
It's easy+lazy farming, though it's not nearly as efficient as doing Rider ADV (about half).

Gavinmad · Oct 23, 2016

So is there any market for selling starter accounts? The alt was fun for a while but it's getting way too damn time consuming now with the event going on. max level 6* lightning, 5* cecil, 4* mustadio , 4* bc lid, 4* maria, 4* kain, with hayate and an extra cecil for TM farming, 11k candy corn banked atm, along with 2 extra Mustadio, an Edge, and a 4* Galuf (his 5* is coming soon). I figure the Lightning alone makes it worth at least something, although I obviously wasn't planning to break the bank with the proceeds.

I'd especially be willing to sell it cheap to someone here if they want to reroll or use it to try and get a friend into the game.

yimmien · Oct 23, 2016

Is cat Lid actually that good? Not sure I want to do any more daily pulls. I have CoD, Bartz, Chizuru, Firion, Kain already for phys dps slots. I have another CoD or Garland I could level if I wasnt lazy.

Gavinmad · Oct 23, 2016

she's a lot better than kain but that's because kain is terrible. I'd just level Garland or the second CoD though since you already have them.

Sinzar · Oct 23, 2016

Huh? Kain is amazing. At max level, his jump does more damage than barrage, and he scales crazy good if you load him up with TM's. That said though, you kind of need a TM weapon like Gungir or better to make him shine. If we're talking only baseline equipment, Kain isn't as super.

Lid's in the same situation. If you haven't done any TM grinding, the best weapon Lid can equip is the killer bow, which means she's kind of bleh. If you have something like Mustadio's TM pistol though, she's awesome with ultimate blow.

fris · Oct 23, 2016

After a week of tm farming, at night, ludmil is 5.5%. That seem normal?

Sinzar · Oct 23, 2016

fris said:
After a week of tm farming, at night, ludmil is 5.5%. That seem normal?

The average is around 2.8% TM per day, assuming you spend 100% of your energy in that 24 hours on TM grinding, with 0 waste. If you only TM farm say for 8 hours overnight, then it's around 1% per day, so that sounds about right.

Gavinmad · Oct 23, 2016

Sinzar said:
Huh? Kain is amazing. At max level, his jump does more damage than barrage, and he scales crazy good if you load him up with TM's. That said though, you kind of need a TM weapon like Gungir or better to make him shine. If we're talking only baseline equipment, Kain isn't as super.

Lid's in the same situation. If you haven't done any TM grinding, the best weapon Lid can equip is the killer bow, which means she's kind of bleh. If you have something like Mustadio's TM pistol though, she's awesome with ultimate blow.

I'll try him again after I get the event spear, but dragon dive doesn't contribute to chains, doesn't benefit from elemental weaknesses, and doesn't benefit from killer abilities. On top of that, cheer wears off before his second dragon dive lands, unless you waste a turn of the duration and recast it again before he takes off on the third turn. It was fun seeing the big numbers though.

Aside from being useless on the current event, what's wrong with the killer bow for Lid?

Sinzar · Oct 23, 2016

There's nothing really wrong with the killer bow, aside from the low attack power (compared to what else we've been given). We've been given weapons with 82, 80, 76, 72, and 70 (next week) attack power for free so far, with even stronger free weapons coming soon. I haven't mathed it out, but I suspect her awesome ability alone isn't enough to justify her use when she's stuck using a 60 atk weapon.

If you were going to be using the killer bow anyway for a specific killer skill, she's one of the best users for it though.

Edit: For fun I plugged in stats of Lid with killer bow vs Bartz with Enhancer (the shittiest barrage user) using the same equipment aside from weapon. They do almost exactly the same damage to a unit with 500 defense. If you compare to a better barrage unit, like Chizuru w/ chirijaeden, Lid loses by a lot.

Gavinmad · Oct 23, 2016

what about the ease of getting spooky aura though? I can buy 4 of those to put on lid, but aside from that I only have a single 10% atk materia.

Sinzar · Oct 23, 2016

If you add in 42 extra attack power (over the single +10% atk materia we have) then Lid pulls ahead over everyone from his team he listed. That takes 92,000 candy, which is about 1068 energy to farm, so I wouldn't say it's all that easy, but it's certainly doable.

In 3 weeks, we should get the recipe to craft 10% materia, which then spooky aura is only adding 12 attack over what we would have anyway, then it's a much closer battle of who does more damage.

Vorph · Oct 23, 2016

Kain sucks now but the bug which prevents -killer and elemental effects from working was fixed in JP and should be fixed here too. Someday. The bug that makes dual wield charge double MP when you completely kill a wave with the first attack has been fixed in JP for months, but is still alive and well here so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Jump to get fixed right away.

There must be a ton of retards who use r/ffbe. I pointed out that the second moogle is 828 nrg, which means you get 10% for one unit instead of ~8.28% for 5 units and of course it got downvoted to oblivion.

Gavinmad · Oct 23, 2016

Doesn't the first moogle cost more energy than you would average from an earth shrine macro too? The only real argument in favor of these two moogles is being able to bank the trust to be able to use it immediately on a TM in the future.

As far as BC Lid goes, my other phys dps options are Butts, CoD, Kain, and Mustadio. If I use Lid, I have to either dump Mustadio to use his killer bow, or use a golden axe. Since I missed the pestle and don't have a rising sun, my best weapon for CoD is a mythril mace (think I accidentally sold the kangaroo). Probably just gonna leave CoD benched until the ff3 banner. Based on my available heroes, if I get quad aura for Lid she'll be my top dps until 6* CoD, and she won't get bumped out of my lineup for quite a while unless I get some really lucky pulls. Probably not going to pull Luneth, definitely not going to draw Gilgamesh, might draw Butts dupes, going to commit sudoku if I don't draw Orurandu, and if I still have any lapis/tickets left after chasing him I'll be trying to draw for Firion and Garland.

Vorph · Oct 23, 2016

Yes, the first one is 360 nrg, so even there you have to give up 18% spread across 5 units to get 10% to one. I'm only getting it because one of mine is dual wield and I want it done before 6* CoD. Plus there's some fun stuff you can do with Kefka, dual wield, 60+72 MAG rods, and Sunbeam.

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