Final Fantasy VII Remake

Chris said:

I'm done!

36 Hours, 45 Minutes skipping about 3 side quests, the Wall Steeet Collesium and Shinra Building VR battles. I didn't get Leviathan Summon or Rahmu (if it's in the game). The final bosses were very difficult at lv35, I feel like 40 hours is a reasonable goal by doing the skipped content to make the end bosses reasonable.

Final part without details of the ending:

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Shinra Building plays out much the same with some changes to expand each floor. Too much to break down in detail but your capture isn't being put in cells anymore, it's a part of Hojo's lab being a full dungeon. A Sephrioth Clone hacks a hologram exhibit of Neo Midgar to show Meteorfall from the ending of the original game, you also see Sephrioth take Jenova and it's made clear that it's a number tatooed Clone you are seeing.

The blood and body trail is totally censored, it's now purple Jenova blood and no bodies, fighting Jenova in the President's Office. Barret is "stabbed" by Sephrioth just to only give you 3 party members plus guest for the battle, it's no big deal in the game as a Watcher heals him. Jenova is revealed to be a Sephrioth Clone with Jenova's arm and escapes.

The Rufus battle is excellent, as is Motoball on the highway, the bike mini game is much better than the original.

3.5/5 for Shinra Building (Ch17) and the Highway/Ending (Ch18) as I wasn't sold on some of the changes.

Breakdown of the ending:

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The Watchers of Fate try to stop you from encountering Sephrioth early so you fight them first in some sort of trippy realm that looks like a destroyed Midgar. There's a huge one that almost looks like a WEAPON. Every time you damage it, it gives the party flashes of the future like it's warning you to stop. You see Red XIII running with his kids, Aerith praying just before she dies, Cloud burying Aerith in the lake and Meteor. You win and have a flashback of Zack fighting Shinra outside of Midgar, then you encounter Sephrioth.

You fight Sephrioth solo as Cloud, with eventually Aerith and Tifa joining. It's hard as hell, I used 30 Mega Potions because I fucked up and gave Cloud my Cure materia which he couldn't use as he needed to use also his ATB on defending/counter attacking.

After the battle The Watchers come back and try to stop Cloud from getting to Sephritoh, but Cloud gets past them and goes down a tunnel like he does in the final battle in the original. I assume this means he is speaking to true Sephrioth and not a Clone. Cloud does Omnislash and Sephrioth blocks every hit, he then asks Cloud to join him in changing fate. Cloud refuses.

The ending then shows:
-Rufus Shinra meeting the Shinra Board members.
-Hojo laughing maniacally at the fact that JENOVA has been taken.
-Sector 7 Slums being rebuilt - I guess it was actually under the gap between the plates to get sunlight and not crushed, just damaged.
-Wedge also being alive in his Sector 5 orphanage. Sorry I was wrong about Wedge and Biggs being dead! Jessie is 100% dead though, you see her last breath.
-Zack winning the battle against Shinra and picking up an unconscious Cloud.
- The party leaving Midgar to go after Sephrioth, only they know that he wants to destroy the world now.
- A message that said that the "Unknown Journey" will continue in the next part.

So what's the deal with the next part?

It's not clear exactly how much the Party know about the future, if they only saw what the player sees, then they only know that Sephrioth is going to try to destroy the planet.

It's not clear how exactly events are able to change, the changes seem to centre around Cloud and Sephrioth so I speculate that JENOVA is behind it somehow.

The Watchers don't seem to be permanently defeated as you see some after the boss, so it's not a given that things will totally change in the next part. It just means that large changes may require a boss battle.

Zack being alive is crazy and the mystery is... where is he? He had the same treatment Cloud did, so I assume he's going to be a Sephrioth Clone. Sephrioth is shown to be able to exert control over Cloud, so why not Zack too?

I dont know why Wedge and Biggs are alive. Wedge seems involved with a side plot where there's a main Avalanche organisation that show up twice and may be in league with Wutai. I though that Rufus may be involved with them, but he blows up an Avalanche helicopter and is actually shown to be in charge of The Turks so he wouldn't need them. Biggs being alive seems unnecessary.

I would have preferred a straight remake as the best part of the game are the 1:1 remake parts. However they have succeeded in adding tension and drama to a story we already know, like when you see Wedge live and you defeat The Watchers you get hope that maybe Jessie lives (she doesn't). Now we got hope that Aerith may live, maybe she still dies and you feel bad all over again. Maybe Zack is the last boss of the next game, possessed by Sephrioth. They could do a lot with this.

Post game is a chapter select with a hard mode, keeping your progress. Hard mode has extra items and there's a new set of VR battles in Hojo's Lab. So you can easily get a bunch more hours out of the game if 30-40 isn't enough. I've heard there's a few super bosses too.

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Utnayan said:

You forgot game = bad, but I do not want to yuck your yuck up while you look for the yum in which you may need some rum to see the yum. Have fun with the game Delly

It's almost Friday for you folks.

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Utnayan said:

I do not give a shit what you play. You trying to defend horseshit decisions all around though that I will and can definitely call out, and will continue to do so, because you are starting to sound like Rich Fucking Vogel at this point. You are literally explaining shit asset design which SEVERELY impacts the atmosphere of the game stating it needs to do that to maintain 30 FPS with a game that still looks upscaled from 900p without any AA of ANY type or AF of anything greater than 2 due to the insanely good combat system which most never wanted nor agree with either. And I didn't even get started on that story .... I mean holy fuck. Maybe we can start talking about SE's plan when they didn't even have the foresight to have a plan for the next 2-4 episodes and entered preproduction for episode 2 THREE FUCKING MONTHS AGO.

The fact that a 5 year old game handled a 3d dynamic atmosphere with very limited sky box outlay and this cannot even perform a 3d mesh of a static draw is absolutely fucking stunning in this day and age and you cannot even say "Yeah you know what, I get it.... " Instead, what you do is scapegoat the shit on something you do not understand anyway and even IF they needed to scale back THAT FAR to maintain 30 fps that should say something in of itself.

Jesus Christ here's your shovel.

Anyone looking to play, have a great fucking time. But the Cloud version of your Benny Hinn is borderline hilarious if I didn't think you were actually being serious or purposely obtuse.

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Hateyou said:

I can’t believe you didn’t notice the shitty textures. I wasn’t even looking for them and it was very apparent when they appeared in the demo. The non shitty textures which make up most of the game looked so good I couldn’t help but notice the random terrible texture pieces. It’s annoying and not game breaking (Ut is blowing them
Out of proportion) but saying they aren’t noticeable is not being very honest.

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Utnayan said:

they took arguably the BEST FF game in the entire IP

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Utnayan said:

PERFECT.

Now we are getting somewhere. The rest of most everything else you talk about is completely subjective. Combat system, story, mission structure, etc - you like.

Glad you liked it.

Objectively, the things we know are wrong; the way in which it was developed and how they took arguably the BEST FF game in the entire IP and didn't give it their 100% attention from Day 1, is a fucking travesty. Hell business model aside - that right there alone should make people very angry.

Thanks for not trying to downplay those textures anymore. And yes, I fully admit I go overboard on that type of stuff. But only because it could have, and should have, been a hundred times more epic in scope with even 3 months of effort on art assets and considering people will be paying a lot of money to see this through over a traditional game launch, the least these asses could have done was taken it on internally to begin with and get their shit together for the fans.

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Utnayan said:

Sweet I’ll crash your stream. I expect you to at least make at least one reference to textures.

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