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StoiCynic

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Uhm one is a mega corporation that employees a shitload of people and provides a service that I find very useful and they do a good job at it.

The other is a smaller corporation that created a game I do not want to play, with episodic approach which I do not like, with some shitty textures.

I haven’t told anyone how to spend their money, I’m just saying I won’t be spending mine on this game. Not because SE is some big evil company, but because the game is not something I’m interested in. I had this thing pre-ordered and canceled it because it sucked for me, not because of some morals. If someone here played the demo and enjoyed it, fucking buy it and have fun, I’m just not in that crowd.

Comparing this game to Amazons service is pants on head retarded and you should be ashamed that you are stupid.

Telling people not to buy a game to spite X-greedy company and then turning around and buying from Y-greedy company makes you a hypocrite. Nothing you or anyone says can invalidate that, no matter how badly you wanna be right. According to your post, what I said doesn't even apply to you so untwist you're panties.
 

Utnayan

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It’s also true.

It is. But here is the difference. The composer locked the Sony version out - whether that was SE didn't want to pay the license fee or whether Koichi Sugiyama was being a controlling dickhead, it isn't clear. Could be he was asking too much money from SE, could be SE didn't pay it and changed their tune with the Switch version after they saw the backlash.

This is different in the fact SE fucked this development from the get go and then in a rush to launch (And I'll keep the business model out of it) placated shit texture art assets and didn't give a flying fuck, along with not caring about it to begin with when they gave it all to a 3rd party anyhow.

I agree. It's jarring as shit when compared to the Orch tracks of the game. SE is behind both.

DQ11 was also a fully fleshed out 100 hour RPG for $59.99. These comparisons cannot be made in a vacuum.
 
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Well we'll just see when I pick it up this afternoon. Worst comes to worst I'll mute it and listen to something else.
 
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Actually, going to just avoid that whole chicken and egg. Bad enough now that I know there is an alternate, probably better going in blind and not actually hearing the difference and being constantly reminded.
 

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Telling people not to buy a game to spite X-greedy company and then turning around and buying from Y-greedy company makes you a hypocrite. Nothing you or anyone says can invalidate that, no matter how badly you wanna be right. According to your post, what I said doesn't even apply to you so untwist you're panties.
So who does your post apply to? Utnayan Utnayan ? Call him out instead of making some general passive aggressive garbage post thinking you're being clever or one upping someone. Because you're not.
 
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Well we'll just see when I pick it up this afternoon. Worst comes to worst I'll mute it and listen to something else.

It isn’t unplayable or anything, it just didn’t fit with the modern was of the game. Personally I listened to my own music while playing it but I do that with a lot of games. I wasn’t a fan of the orchestral soundtrack of DQ11 either.
 

StoiCynic

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So who does your post apply to? Utnayan Utnayan ? Call him out instead of making some general passive aggressive garbage post thinking you're being clever or one upping someone. Because you're not.

I mean, because he wasn't the only one? You are putting way to much thought into this. I don't think any of the things you are accusing me of. You kinda seem like a 8 yo who is mad but doesn't know why.
 

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I mean, because he wasn't the only one? You are putting way to much thought into this. I don't think any of the things you are accusing me of. You kinda seem like a 8 yo who is mad but doesn't know why.
I've put as much thought into it as you've put into your posts, zero. You're also about to hit your new metric, congrats buddy.
 
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I'm done!

36 Hours, 45 Minutes skipping about 3 side quests, the Wall Steeet Collesium and Shinra Building VR battles. I didn't get Leviathan Summon or Rahmu (if it's in the game). The final bosses were very difficult at lv35, I feel like 40 hours is a reasonable goal by doing the skipped content to make the end bosses reasonable.

Final part without details of the ending:

Shinra Building plays out much the same with some changes to expand each floor. Too much to break down in detail but your capture isn't being put in cells anymore, it's a part of Hojo's lab being a full dungeon. A Sephrioth Clone hacks a hologram exhibit of Neo Midgar to show Meteorfall from the ending of the original game, you also see Sephrioth take Jenova and it's made clear that it's a number tatooed Clone you are seeing.

The blood and body trail is totally censored, it's now purple Jenova blood and no bodies, fighting Jenova in the President's Office. Barret is "stabbed" by Sephrioth just to only give you 3 party members plus guest for the battle, it's no big deal in the game as a Watcher heals him. Jenova is revealed to be a Sephrioth Clone with Jenova's arm and escapes.

The Rufus battle is excellent, as is Motoball on the highway, the bike mini game is much better than the original.

3.5/5 for Shinra Building (Ch17) and the Highway/Ending (Ch18) as I wasn't sold on some of the changes.

Breakdown of the ending:
The Watchers of Fate try to stop you from encountering Sephrioth early so you fight them first in some sort of trippy realm that looks like a destroyed Midgar. There's a huge one that almost looks like a WEAPON. Every time you damage it, it gives the party flashes of the future like it's warning you to stop. You see Red XIII running with his kids, Aerith praying just before she dies, Cloud burying Aerith in the lake and Meteor. You win and have a flashback of Zack fighting Shinra outside of Midgar, then you encounter Sephrioth.

You fight Sephrioth solo as Cloud, with eventually Aerith and Tifa joining. It's hard as hell, I used 30 Mega Potions because I fucked up and gave Cloud my Cure materia which he couldn't use as he needed to use also his ATB on defending/counter attacking.

After the battle The Watchers come back and try to stop Cloud from getting to Sephritoh, but Cloud gets past them and goes down a tunnel like he does in the final battle in the original. I assume this means he is speaking to true Sephrioth and not a Clone. Cloud does Omnislash and Sephrioth blocks every hit, he then asks Cloud to join him in changing fate. Cloud refuses.

The ending then shows:
-Rufus Shinra meeting the Shinra Board members.
-Hojo laughing maniacally at the fact that JENOVA has been taken.
-Sector 7 Slums being rebuilt - I guess it was actually under the gap between the plates to get sunlight and not crushed, just damaged.
-Wedge also being alive in his Sector 5 orphanage. Sorry I was wrong about Wedge and Biggs being dead! Jessie is 100% dead though, you see her last breath.
-Zack winning the battle against Shinra and picking up an unconscious Cloud.
- The party leaving Midgar to go after Sephrioth, only they know that he wants to destroy the world now.
- A message that said that the "Unknown Journey" will continue in the next part.

So what's the deal with the next part?

It's not clear exactly how much the Party know about the future, if they only saw what the player sees, then they only know that Sephrioth is going to try to destroy the planet.

It's not clear how exactly events are able to change, the changes seem to centre around Cloud and Sephrioth so I speculate that JENOVA is behind it somehow.

The Watchers don't seem to be permanently defeated as you see some after the boss, so it's not a given that things will totally change in the next part. It just means that large changes may require a boss battle.

Zack being alive is crazy and the mystery is... where is he? He had the same treatment Cloud did, so I assume he's going to be a Sephrioth Clone. Sephrioth is shown to be able to exert control over Cloud, so why not Zack too?

I dont know why Wedge and Biggs are alive. Wedge seems involved with a side plot where there's a main Avalanche organisation that show up twice and may be in league with Wutai. I though that Rufus may be involved with them, but he blows up an Avalanche helicopter and is actually shown to be in charge of The Turks so he wouldn't need them. Biggs being alive seems unnecessary.

I would have preferred a straight remake as the best part of the game are the 1:1 remake parts. However they have succeeded in adding tension and drama to a story we already know, like when you see Wedge live and you defeat The Watchers you get hope that maybe Jessie lives (she doesn't). Now we got hope that Aerith may live, maybe she still dies and you feel bad all over again. Maybe Zack is the last boss of the next game, possessed by Sephrioth. They could do a lot with this.

Post game is a chapter select with a hard mode, keeping your progress. Hard mode has extra items and there's a new set of VR battles in Hojo's Lab. So you can easily get a bunch more hours out of the game if 30-40 isn't enough. I've heard there's a few super bosses too.
 
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Lol ok. Better mesh those out to maintain 30 FPS in this scene.

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It’s jarring as fuck and you are far better off hoping it’s a bug that gets a day one patch than downplaying the obvious head turning bullshit everyone is talking about in it needing it to be fixed. Your excuse might carry more weight if other areas didn’t suffer from this, and in much less graphical intensive areas where game performance wouldn’t take a hit anyway.


Rage 1 all over again, can't wait !
 

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Slums under Midgar. Flat texture maps.

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I thought that chapter looked amazing, I kept trying to find new angles to look down from.

What are they supposed to be using? Are skyboxes not allowed anymore? A 3D model that large is going to cause a lot of slow down.
 
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Utnayan

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What are they supposed to be using? Are skyboxes not allowed anymore? A 3D model that large is going to cause a lot of slow down.

Jesus H Christ are you hilarious.

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All that slowdown! I am sure glad SE popped in all those PS2 art assets too to maintain that 30 fps!

Since you haven't played it, this shit moved with dynamic wind speed and dynamic weather... (From 5 fucking years ago) - and these dumb fucks who rushed the shit out of this cannot even throw in a static 3d mesh without dropping 15 frames in a shit tier aliased game? Maybe someone should ask them why they didn't use Luminous... :p
 
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I thought that chapter looked amazing, I kept trying to find new angles to look down from.

What are they supposed to be using? Are skyboxes not allowed anymore? A 3D model that large is going to cause a lot of slow down.

Can't fucking wait until Friday. Are you playing this on a PS4 Pro or a standard PS4? I have a older launch model and I'm concerned the game was made more for the upgraded pros lol. I'd prefer this on PC but I am just not going to be able to wait!
 
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Utnayan

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Can't fucking wait until Friday. Are you playing this on a PS4 Pro or a standard PS4? I have a older launch model and I'm concerned the game was made more for the upgraded pros lol.

You won't notice a difference you are in luck :)

Some of those texture assets are 256x256!