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ZyyzYzzy

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Reserving an instance is so annoying with limited play time. Instead of being able to do 2-3 ak runs I can do 1 at night when I log in.

Shit is ridiculous since CM premades aren't an option because I'm not relic+1 and full DL (also ridiculous that people boot you out for not insanely overgearing a face roll dungeon)
 

ZProtoss

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Shit is ridiculous since CM premades aren't an option because I'm not relic+1 and full DL (also ridiculous that people boot you out for not insanely overgearing a face roll dungeon)
It's just an issue of time. People with gear that still want to run CM for cash/alts/whatever. I don't see why those people should feel forced to take those that are undergeared. You can make all the arguments about being competent in the world, but it doesn't change the fact that you're going to drag down the run compared to someone who's at the same level *and* has better gear.
 

Man0warr

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I've never had an issue finding a CM run that didn't require having a relic weapon. Relic isn't going to speed up the run much unless your a dps.
 

Beef Supreme_sl

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For CM, it's stupid to require anything above the standard AF gear, plus a decent weapon. The fights are cheese, and many groups can be cannon'd down. Aside from the fight with the two add group spawns, the whole thing can be done without a tank (I'd even wager with enough DPS, you wouldn't even need a tank for that fight either). I get the "speed" bit, but more time gets wasted trying to figure out how to do each part than anything else.
 

InterSlayer_sl

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Prae runs are so much better than CM. A lot more straight forward, hardly any trash, most of which you can skip if you have a blackmage to sleep stuff then just use the elevator. After that its mostly boss fights where you don't stand in stuff, easy clear in 25-30 mins.
 

InterSlayer_sl

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25 mins, 30 on average. 100 phil. Lowest I've ever seen bragged about was 23-24 mins.

Pug groups I make with slowpokes or peeps not decked out in darklight/af finish 28-30 mins.

Usually takes longer to find that perfect darklight/af+1 group than it is to just grab people and go.
 

RobXIII

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Bit of a followup though, I did end up cancelling my order because the delivery guy got all huff puffy because i forgot to include my surname and wouldn't give me my money.

currently sitting at like 8k gil and its killing my motivation to play. Everything i do costs me money, and i aint fucking making any.
What can you do at 50 to make gil besides levequests? I think it's a bit silly how much everything costs, repairs just for casting, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for challenge. I LOVE challenge, but in games I HATE inconvenience. And this game has it in spades.
 

Gravel

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Prae runs fucking suck. I don't recommend anyone do them. CM may not be THAT much faster (I think it is faster), but it FEELS much faster. Prae is boring as fuck and awful.
 

Beef Supreme_sl

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Prae runs fucking suck. I don't recommend anyone do them. CM may not be THAT much faster (I think it is faster), but it FEELS much faster. Prae is boring as fuck and awful.
Yeah, prea felt like an eternity when I played it for the story.

CM, once you get a few under your belt, can be EZ mode to the max and take around 25 min to complete. The only downside is that there is nothing to be gained from the bosses (loot or tombstones) which takes a lot of cachet out of running it.

My only regret in life is not being 50 in time to do the AK speed runs.
 

a_skeleton_03

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This I stole from reddit.

Yoshi-P did mention this in the last Live Letter, but Camate just made this post too:


Hello, everyone!

I know you all are extremely interested in when we will be starting our world transfer service. I apologize that the web site has not been updated and is displaying an older date, but I am happy to share that the service will be available in the beginning of October.

Apologies for the long wait, but we will be announcing further details very soon!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1327831
 

Jaybee

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Wait a minute, I haven't logged on in a week but are you guys serious about the CM runs in relic+1 and full DL?? Why the fuck would you even enter CM if you had full DL and your relic+1? Are they just doing it to sell the crafting mats for gil? If so L-fucking-OL
 

Man0warr

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DL Gear for their alt classes maybe.

For CM, it's stupid to require anything above the standard AF gear, plus a decent weapon. The fights are cheese, and many groups can be cannon'd down. Aside from the fight with the two add group spawns, the whole thing can be done without a tank (I'd even wager with enough DPS, you wouldn't even need a tank for that fight either). I get the "speed" bit, but more time gets wasted trying to figure out how to do each part than anything else.
People can require whatever the hell they want for runs they are putting together, if they want as fast as run possible then they are going to want people with the best gear - you aren't required to join. Make your own run and require what you want - the runs are easy enough.

My only regret in life is not being 50 in time to do the AK speed runs.
CM runs are faster philo/per minute than even the old AK speed runs. After getting your 300 myth stones for the week there was no reason to keep running AK.

Wait to do AK until later in the week for your Myth's and it still won't take you long to cap.
 

Beef Supreme_sl

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DL Gear for their alt classes maybe.



People can require whatever the hell they want for runs they are putting together, if they want as fast as run possible then they are going to want people with the best gear - you aren't required to join. Make your own run and require what you want - the runs are easy enough.



CM runs are faster philo/per minute than even the old AK speed runs. After getting your 300 myth stones for the week there was no reason to keep running AK.

Wait to do AK until later in the week for your Myth's and it still won't take you long to cap.
But AK has a pulse at least and has decent loot, not to mention the myth stones.

AK > CM in terms of fun factor
CM > everything else in terms of getting phil stones
 

Gravel

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CM runs are faster philo/per minute than even the old AK speed runs. After getting your 300 myth stones for the week there was no reason to keep running AK.
That doesn't sound right. Even if it took 20 minutes for a speed run, that's still 240 tomes an hour versus the 200 for CM.
 

Man0warr

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I actually find a good Garuda HM Weapon farming group to be faster Myth stones than current AK plus you can get awesome weapons for alt classes.

That doesn't sound right. Even if it took 20 minutes for a speed run, that's still 240 tomes an hour versus the 200 for CM.
You aren't factoring in the instance reserve wait (which started about a week before AK speedruns got nerfed, once a ton people started queueing for it), which is anywhere between 10 and 50 minutes wait on top of the actual instance, AND that's assuming it's a perfect speed run. CM is an instant queue with a premade even now.
 

Man0warr

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Yeah, if your alt class is a SCH...

I agree though, with the right group, Garuda HM is fun.
My main is a SCH and it took me like 30 runs to get my weapon :< 1 in 9 chance.

In the meantime I have weapons I greeded for BLM, DRG, and MNK if I decide to ever level those up to 50.