Tyen said:
Women over 30 with 3 kids, one half her age is shit you do not want.
Camerous pulls better tail
She"s quite a bit more attractive than the women that Cam gets (no offense intended)
Listen, here"s the problem as I see it: feel free to correct anything that I say that you think is wrong.
There are MANY women in their early 20s who do not have kids. Most of them are batshit crazy still and aren"t good relationship material, but are fun to fuck, but not someone you"d want to marry. They are immature and haven"t figured out what they want in life. (see: 500 days of summer).
Then there are women that are in their early 20s that do have kid (they figured out they wanted to be a mommy, so they found the first guy they liked and fucked him until getting pregnant. Their entire life revolves around their child. But, SURPRISE most guys (in their early 20s especially) are pretty much shitbags that suck at life, so the relationship fails. These women are terrible to date because of the logistics involved in raising a child and most of them suck to talk to because they are still young and immature. Many of them are just looking for someone to be a father their baby-daddy"s kid, even if they would adamantly deny it. Not only are they poor relationship material (and clearly aren"t over making poor choices), but I don"t have much in common with early 20 year olds anymore, I"m starting to get older, and I don"t have the ability to, nor the desire to pack up and move halfway across the country at the drop of a hat or switch careers.
The number of eligible women without children decreases as you move the range up to the mid 30s, Most of the women that don"t have children by their mid 30s are the ones that are either batshit insane (druggies/alcoholics), put their careers before family (priorities opposite to most women), don"t want (or can"t have) kids, or are just plain undesirable to most men (fugly).
The problem is, women that want kids, are stable, and capable, tend to have them before they are 30. Would I date a 30 year old with a newborn? Probably not, I"ve actually turned down women for 2nd dates after I found out they had a young child (it wasn"t the only issue obviously).
Are there attractive, mentally/emotionally stable women in their early 30s that want kids, are capable of having them, and HAVENT yet had them? Maybe, but it"s about as rare as finding a unicorn, or a woman finding a stable, financially secure, attractive, "nice" guy, in his early 30s without kids but who still wants them.
So yes, I think I"m doing pretty well for myself. I don"t "have" to raise someone else"s kids, she already did that.
She"s still young and attractive to my standards. I"d rate her at an 7.5 physically (she used to be a solid 9 before her 3 kids, and as a comparison I"d rate about a 6.5). You"d have to be pretty damned picky as a guy to not be willing to date a woman 2 years older than you.