GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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No, as none of them have been legitimized. Anyway it's not like anybody gives a shit about claims now anymore, it's all about right of conquest
Before the RW Robb was headed home to reclaim Winterfell. It would have consolidated the North's power; Tywin could not have afforded to leave a King unharmed. He also, would have gotten back the allegiance of the Freys and Boltons.
Sorry, shit might change in the future because of Tywin's death, but little changed immediately. After Edmure was "wedded and bedded", a war ended, a new one began (small pockets especially those led by Dondarrion as the last vestiges of Eddard Stark), the North was held by the Boltons with Lannister backing, and far too many people changed sides.
Also it does have the whole "What the shit" factor. I never saw it coming. Martin doesn't fuck around. "You don't think I'll kill two major characters that we've been following since the first book? Lawl, that's adorable."
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I agree with those who are against Astrocreep!
Red Wedding was a bigger deal because it eliminated the only (realistic) opposition that the Baratheon-Lannister's had on Westeros.
Stannis was still licking his wounds aka doing fuck all (maybe he started his march to the Wall by now), Dany is Dany, and the Tyrell's are allied with the King.
Red Wedding was a bigger deal because it eliminated the only (realistic) opposition that the Baratheon-Lannister's had on Westeros.
Stannis was still licking his wounds aka doing fuck all (maybe he started his march to the Wall by now), Dany is Dany, and the Tyrell's are allied with the King.
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One major reason why Tywin's death wasn't as big a deal is because of Kevan's existence. TRW had a big impact on what was going on in the North. Tywin's death just meant all of his duties and power would get handed to Kevan. Kevan may not have been as good a leader as Tywin, but he was good enough that Varys saw him as a threat. So not much changed with Tywin's death.
That is until we find out what Varys is planning. In the long run Tywin's death may have a bigger impact. I think Varys would eventually have killed Tywin if Tyrion hadn't. Tywin would have been in Kevan's spot at the end of book 5.
That is until we find out what Varys is planning. In the long run Tywin's death may have a bigger impact. I think Varys would eventually have killed Tywin if Tyrion hadn't. Tywin would have been in Kevan's spot at the end of book 5.
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its certainly not, but if you are tired of being told how low on the totem pole of importance it was in comparison to tywins death, then ill drop it. You can go back to discussing nostradouches, plot armor and masterstrokes.
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Simple answer to why RW > Tywin death in terms of impact: it removed an entire battlefront and person trying to become king (of the north, but it still fractures a previously unified kingdom). Removing a battlefront allows you to consolidate resources. Think Germany in WW2. They had a multifront war, but had one of the fronts been eliminated, they could have thrown more at the remaining front and impacted the turn of the war. Even if Hitler had died and been replaced by someone even more useless, there are still enough people in the power structure who know wtf they are doing to not let everything collapse, esp on a single front war.