GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Ravishing · Jul 31, 2017

Hatorade said:
Littlefinger: See and think about everything all the time, and you will win.
few minutes later
Sansa: What is the Three Eyed Raven?
Bran: I see and hear everything.
Sansa: I have to go!

Knowing your lil bro watched you get raped would freak anyone out, no?

Ossoi · Jul 31, 2017

Merrith said:
Robin hood like characters, etc. .

Like the Brothers without Banners?

TJT · Jul 31, 2017

McCheese said:
I think they're doing a great job of believably evening the odds between Dany and Cersei. At the start of the season it was pretty hard to imagine how Dany wouldn't just steamroll Cersei, but I like how they're showing that despite Dany's numerical strength, she (and her advisers) aren't nearly as cunning and capable as Cersei and her people.

Well had Tyrion not tanked the idea of using Dragons to go straight for King's Landing and melt the Red Keep they wouldn't even be in this situation.

McCheese · Jul 31, 2017

TJT said:
Well had Tyrion not tanked the idea of using Dragons to go straight for King's Landing and melt the Red Keep they wouldn't even be in this situation.

Exactly. I like how they're showing that despite Tyrion's intelligence and book smarts, he isn't nearly the tactician that Jaimie, Cersei, and Tarly are.

Sumdain x · Jul 31, 2017

yea Euron is definitely a different character in the books, and is quite mad. He has a dead eye and wears an eyepatch most of the time, he spent a lot of time in Valyria and supposedly it drove him mildly insane to the point of talking to himself. there are conspiracies about what he found while he was there but we know he cut the tongues out of all the crew members on his ship silence. he also weirdly enough has a full suit of Valyrian steel armor (when most houses just have enough to make a single sword) and if i remember correctly practices blood magic and has a pet sea monster (i may be mis remembering that last part).

Jozu · Jul 31, 2017

Another thing that bothers me too is if Euron is such a badass, and wants to mount Cersei and blow her back out, how can he just take her word and be satisfied? She was basically like, "youll get what you want, you just gotta wait till the war is won my guy."

Hes just cool with that? I doubt it.

Chris · Jul 31, 2017

iannis said:
Littlefinger is Neutral Evil. Euron is Chaotic Evil. Cersei is Lawful Evil.

How is blowing up the pope and most of the nobles, then fucking your own brother and tourturing someone without trial "Lawful"?

Reht · Jul 31, 2017

Chris said:
How is blowing up the pope and most of the nobles, then fucking your own brother and tourturing someone without trial "Lawful"?

They're actually from Alabama?

Sumdain x · Jul 31, 2017

I dont think for a second that Euron believes Cersei he is just in it for the fun, you can tell he loves antagonizing Jaime.

at the end of the day "little brother" that supposedly kills Cersei from her prophecy may be Euron and not Jaime. This has been a conspiracy theory from way early in the books.

Cad · Jul 31, 2017

McCheese said:
I think they're doing a great job of believably evening the odds between Dany and Cersei. At the start of the season it was pretty hard to imagine how Dany wouldn't just steamroll Cersei, but I like how they're showing that despite Dany's numerical strength, she (and her advisers) aren't nearly as cunning and capable as Cersei and her people.

I don't know about cunning and capable, but they are sending their people/groups out 1 by 1 to get picked off like idiots. You have an overwhelming force you stay together and just move from one objective to the next. It's not like she has anything to guard. The dragons should be out burning out her enemies 24/7.

Khane · Jul 31, 2017

It's Tyrion's long con.

TJT · Jul 31, 2017

Jozu said:
Another thing that bothers me too is if Euron is such a badass, and wants to mount Cersei and blow her back out, how can he just take her word and be satisfied? She was basically like, "youll get what you want, you just gotta wait till the war is won my guy."

Hes just cool with that? I doubt it.

No. The Iron Bank guy was tottally right. Euron is not the one to be trusted and the moment Cersei tries to reneg on the deal he wants he will bail on her.

iannis · Jul 31, 2017

Chris said:
How is blowing up the pope and most of the nobles, then fucking your own brother and tourturing someone without trial "Lawful"?

Because the primary law of feudal societies is that the King (or Queen) can do what the fuck they want. Might makes right, and all that. She even said it this episode. That's her vision of law, and it's Jaime's too. I'm not saying it's mine, but mine doesn't matter. It's reliably been hers and her brothers. Her brother waffles a little bit (more in the books I guess because of the whole Kingslayer thing), but in the show not really.

It has been since episode one.

Just look over at North Korea for a real world example.

iannis · Jul 31, 2017

Cad said:
I don't know about cunning and capable, but they are sending their people/groups out 1 by 1 to get picked off like idiots. You have an overwhelming force you stay together and just move from one objective to the next. It's not like she has anything to guard. The dragons should be out burning out her enemies 24/7.

I mean basically the deus ex machina is Dany's complete incompetence.

Oh, and she doesn't want to kill 10,000 civilians.

Nevermind she'll wind up having a lot more blood on her hands by doing it this way.

Muurloen · Jul 31, 2017

Cad said:
I don't know about cunning and capable, but they are sending their people/groups out 1 by 1 to get picked off like idiots. You have an overwhelming force you stay together and just move from one objective to the next. It's not like she has anything to guard. The dragons should be out burning out her enemies 24/7.

Which is the bigger number, 5 or 1 ?

TJT · Jul 31, 2017

iannis said:
I mean basically the deus ex machina is Dany's complete incompetence.

Oh, and she doesn't want to kill 10,000 civilians.

Nevermind she'll wind up having a lot more blood on her hands by doing it this way.

Yeah. Melting the Red Keep wouldn't kill 10k civilians. This shit she's doing now will.

Needless · Jul 31, 2017

They basically condensed euron in the show from both euron and victarion right? half the shit he does is based off victarion in the books it seems. (his ship and fighting style are word for word victarion)

Gravel · Jul 31, 2017

McCheese said:
I think they're doing a great job of believably evening the odds between Dany and Cersei. At the start of the season it was pretty hard to imagine how Dany wouldn't just steamroll Cersei, but I like how they're showing that despite Dany's numerical strength, she (and her advisers) aren't nearly as cunning and capable as Cersei and her people.

Except it was all built on this ridiculous premise that Dany needed to divide up her forces to somehow win. The idea that her massive army of Unsullied, 3 dragons, and Dothraki couldn't take the city is ridiculous.

And considering Cersei is a fucking monster, the Dothraki invaders not being palatable is stupid.

ZyyzYzzy · Jul 31, 2017

Gravel said:
Except it was all built on this ridiculous premise that Dany needed to divide up her forces to somehow win. The idea that her massive army of Unsullied, 3 dragons, and Dothraki couldn't take the city is ridiculous.

And considering Cersei is a fucking monster, the Dothraki invaders not being palatable is stupid.

Uhh they said they could take KL. She was advised against it in order to minimkze the effects of war on the common folk and not seem like a foreign invader

McCheese · Jul 31, 2017

Gravel said:
Except it was all built on this ridiculous premise that Dany needed to divide up her forces to somehow win. The idea that her massive army of Unsullied, 3 dragons, and Dothraki couldn't take the city is ridiculous.

And considering Cersei is a fucking monster, the Dothraki invaders not being palatable is stupid.

If I'm remembering correctly, Dany and Theon's sister wanted to do just that. Tyrion talked Dany out of it. to avoid all the civilian deaths that would result from a massive, direct assault with all her forces. Basically, Tyrion dun fucked up.

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