GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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Kreugen
Vyemm Raider
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Mance told Jon he didn't find the horn. But when he arrives at the wall, he shows him a horn that Tormund later claims is fake.
Plan A was the (relatively small) attack; Plan B and C were:
"Mance planned to offer the Horn in exchange for letting his people pass through the Wall. If the Night's Watch refused Tormund Giantsbane was to sound the Horn at dawn three days hence but the arrival of Stannis Baratheon put an end to that plan."
He was never going to mount an all-out attack.
Plan A was the (relatively small) attack; Plan B and C were:
"Mance planned to offer the Horn in exchange for letting his people pass through the Wall. If the Night's Watch refused Tormund Giantsbane was to sound the Horn at dawn three days hence but the arrival of Stannis Baratheon put an end to that plan."
He was never going to mount an all-out attack.
Tormund disagrees sir:
?She burned that fine big horn, aye. A bloody sin, I call it. A thousand years old, that was. We found it in a giant?s grave, and no man o? us had ever seen a horn so big. That must have been why Mance got the notion to tell you it were Joramun?s. He wanted you crows to think he had it in his power to blow your bloody Wall down about your knees. But we never found the true horn, not for all our digging. If we had, every kneeler in your Seven Kingdoms would have chunk?s o? ice to cool his wine all summer.? (ADWD, Jon XII)
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getting back to stannis the mannis
Said crazy mother fearing losing her son then went to littlefinger who whispered a plan in her ear, and that's how it all begins.
Stannis originally suspected, and told Jon Arryn, who investigated. they discovered the truth together, and that's when Jon decided to send his son Robert (Robin) to foster with Stannis on Dragonstone. In part because he wanted to get him away from his overprotective crazy mother.
Said crazy mother fearing losing her son then went to littlefinger who whispered a plan in her ear, and that's how it all begins.
spronk
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they should have cross bred moles with giants for 100 generations, producing a race of giant moles who can dig UNDER the wall and create massive tunnels that would rival the Drow city of Menzoberranzan in size and beauty. GRRM is a faggot for not thinking about it.
iannis
Musty Nester
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I suspect Hodor will ultimately return to the north, find himself a giant bride, and be accepted among his people.
He still won't be the smartest giant -- but he will be respected in the community and find the peaceful fulfillment of a life well lived and lived freely.
Which leads to Robert Baratheon suggesting he be fostered with Tywin, resulting in Lysa and Robert fleeing King's Landing and probably spawning the letter to Catelyn. Robert chooses Ned as Hand which infuriates Stannis. This slight is why he doesn't communicate with Ned what's going on and why he stays in Dragonstone, gathering his vassals. His obsessive nature over slights (some decades old) is one of his major flaws.
Which does not bode well for his character arc once Melisandre turns her attention fully to Jon.
I like to think that in the tv series, when Mel gets Gendry and learns from Thoros that resurrection works, that it serves to allow her character in the books/tv show in the future to bring Jon back. Its never stated in the books that she knows of it so I figure David and Dan tossed in in there because they have the l33t beta infos.
Burnem Wizfyre
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The final scene is going to be Hodor sitting on the the Iron throne with one final "hodor" because GRRM finally, literally, killed off everyone else in the seven kingdoms.
Plus, he hasn't exactly been in the greatest mental or physical state since he left Deepwood Motte towards Winterfell.
The book also establishes in the prologue that wargs don't go into the darkness that Beric describes while dead (that causes the memory/personality deterioration he suffers from). So Jon has that going for him too.