Can't see Aegon and Connington being cut, it just seems so vital to a lot of the stuff going down in TWoW. Also, hope they keep the epilogue of ADwD in with Varys and Kevan, it'll be amazing to see.
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If they are completely cutting Connington/Aegon & Victorion/Euron then it means those ultimately don't go anywhere in the books... right? Could they be saving Aegon/Connington for the next season?
I'm really curious where next season will go now. My guess is a lot of it will be stannis/Jon, Margaery/Cersei, and Dany/Tyrion (who might be playing the part of Quentyn to give Dany a connection to Westeros minus the dragon-flame bit). What other major storylines am I missing? Jaime/Brienne?
I'm really curious where next season will go now. My guess is a lot of it will be stannis/Jon, Margaery/Cersei, and Dany/Tyrion (who might be playing the part of Quentyn to give Dany a connection to Westeros minus the dragon-flame bit). What other major storylines am I missing? Jaime/Brienne?
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But since nothing really happens on the river, it seems like they'll cut most of that if they are also cutting Aegon. Its been a while since I read ADWD but wasn't most of Tyrion's action talking to Aegon/Connington/Jorah (most cut) and moping over his lost whore wife (who was also cut) and befriending the pig-riding midget girl (also cut) ?
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His bit as a slave, interaction with his master and his master's favorites, him signing with the Gold Company?
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Thats the thrust of my question - if they haven't cast any of these people, is it fair to say they are getting cut?
Arianne, Quentyn, Connington, and Big Vic are all POV characters, how the fuck do you cut them all?
They've totally made up shit before, like Daenerys in Qarth (Season 2, iirc?) but it ended up being ok because they mostly got back on the book storyline when she left. Minus one dead-on-TV-only Xaro Xhoan Daxos or whatever. I dunno how you just delete POV characters and try and resume the storylines later, though. Unless we're being indirectly spoiled and the hard truth is that 50% of ADWD is bullshit storylines with no future, heh. George can seriously kiss my ass in that case.
Hoping this is just yet to be announced casting or something.
They've totally made up shit before, like Daenerys in Qarth (Season 2, iirc?) but it ended up being ok because they mostly got back on the book storyline when she left. Minus one dead-on-TV-only Xaro Xhoan Daxos or whatever. I dunno how you just delete POV characters and try and resume the storylines later, though. Unless we're being indirectly spoiled and the hard truth is that 50% of ADWD is bullshit storylines with no future, heh. George can seriously kiss my ass in that case.
Hoping this is just yet to be announced casting or something.
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For one thing folks are jumping the gun based in that new cast video released for sdcc. We already knew about myrcella and the high sparrow but it seems they only cut in selfies from fan favorite chars and actors (makes sense for comicon). But they didn't have several other castings that have already been announced (maggy, Imogene/young cersei, the waif) so it's possible arys and Arianne may yet be cast, just not in time for that video.
For another thing they could just as easily put quentyn and aegon next season, Quentyns reveal has more impact once the situation and tensions in dorne have already been established... Just like it was in the books, at the end of AFfc.
Lastly I'm pretty sure Victarion is just cut, and good riddance. They cut him with a single scene from Daario/Euron in a council meeting claiming he just 'stole' 900 ships last season. They even explained how they can stuff all the unsullied and dragons onto the ships and capture kings landing.
For another thing they could just as easily put quentyn and aegon next season, Quentyns reveal has more impact once the situation and tensions in dorne have already been established... Just like it was in the books, at the end of AFfc.
Lastly I'm pretty sure Victarion is just cut, and good riddance. They cut him with a single scene from Daario/Euron in a council meeting claiming he just 'stole' 900 ships last season. They even explained how they can stuff all the unsullied and dragons onto the ships and capture kings landing.
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The truth is they've got plenty of shit for s5, folks just kinda gloss over it since they've blocked AFFC from their minds. Arya's ninja training (already got locations and casting), the High Sparrow religious uprising (already cast Jonathan Pryce). Casting Maggy the Frog and young cersei for this season pretty much guarantees the whole arc will be built on Cersei's downfall...they've even filed permission for Cersei's nude walk of shame in King's Landing/Dubrovnik.
Just with those two arcs they'd have 10 episodes... with Margaery's arrest then Cersei's plotting and eventual arrest etc. They can pepper in a few scenes with Tyrion, a few scenes of Stannis being miserable and cold whilst Jon is shipping off Sam Gilly and Aemon... yeah there's tons for 10 episodes without even MENTIONING Dorne.
Just with those two arcs they'd have 10 episodes... with Margaery's arrest then Cersei's plotting and eventual arrest etc. They can pepper in a few scenes with Tyrion, a few scenes of Stannis being miserable and cold whilst Jon is shipping off Sam Gilly and Aemon... yeah there's tons for 10 episodes without even MENTIONING Dorne.
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Tyrion can be condensed as: Varys ditches him eventually after setting him up. Tyrion ends up running into Ser Friendzone and Ser Friendzone thinks that presenting Dany with a Lannister might get him back in her good graces. They can play off eachother like the Hound+Arya scenes, then they run into the Golden Company/Slavers/whoever. That is more than enough story for S5, then S6 they delve into the new book material.
But you have Doran Martell already cast for S5. And Trystane. And a few sand snakes even. Arianne and Quentyn are both integral parts of Doran's grand scheme to ruin the Lannisters. So unless it's just a small handful of scenes to introduce Dorne and keep the show watchers reminded of why Oberyn's stuff happened, how does it work without deleted characters and/or wholesale changes to the story?