Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)

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Homsar

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People are cofusing what A list means. Just because nerds are buying more captain america comics than another doesnt mean anything.
 
Cybsled

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An A-List celebrity is an individual with huge name recognition AND a big box office draw (or at the very least, their films make bank). Usually they are seen as lead actors. B List celebrities usually is used for folks who you've seen in decent amount of stuff and you might recognize them in a film, but you might not know their name and they usually play smaller parts or character roles. If they do play a lead role, it is usually in a film that is more obscure or not a huge earner.

If we can apply that same type of reasoning to Marvel characters, Iron Man would definitely be A List currently.
 
Xevy

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Cybsled_sl said:
An A-List celebrity is an individual with huge name recognition AND a big box office draw (or at the very least, their films make bank). Usually they are seen as lead actors. B List celebrities usually is used for folks who you've seen in decent amount of stuff and you might recognize them in a film, but you might not know their name and they usually play smaller parts or character roles. If they do play a lead role, it is usually in a film that is more obscure or not a huge earner.

If we can apply that same type of reasoning to Marvel characters, Iron Man would definitely be A List currently.
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I agree with this. Unfortunately under this same logic you could ALMOST argue that Black Widow is also A-list because ScarJo gets dudes wet.
 
j00t

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It's a little different with comics though. A list can also refer to things like power level and clutch. So while Hawkeye or black widow might be low on popularity, they also are people that are going to be ones who make the difference between a win and a loss. Beta ray bill isn't exactly a list for popularity but he blows planets up. Sentry is a great example. Not a lot of people liked him but he wasn't anything less than an a list character.
 
chthonic-anemos

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It's all about merchandising. If illiterate welfare children are wearing your pajamas and eating your cereal then you have made it to the A-list of comic.. books.
 
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I would say before all the movies the list would have gone:

A list. Spider-Man, Hulk.
B list. X-Men (collectively), Captain America, Fantastic 4.
C list. Iron Man, Thor.
D list. Everyone else.

This is just my belief of if you polled like a million people those that would be more recognisable to the average person that doesn't actually read comics or hasn't maybe since childhood.

Nowadays I would put Iron Man also in the A list category because of RDJ and the sheer success of the movies.

I still don't really think Black Widow or Hawkeye have moved up the list, their representation in the movies is pretty shallow, they haven't actually made any reference to Black Widow being enhanced in any way and Hawkeye is completely flat and devoid of personality.
 
Szlia

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My criteria for 'A list' would be: does someone who does not care about comics at all knows the character? With a very scientific sample size (me), Hawkeye, Black Widow, Guardians of the Galaxy are indeed not A list as I never ever heard of those before they hit the big screen (or, in the case of Guardians, were about to). Thor and Iron Man though, definitely A List (before the movies and without ever reading a comic book I knew their name, how they looked like and had a sense of they power and backstory).

On a side note, lol at the idea most good films are financially successful!
 
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Movies do not mean comic book sales if so avengers would be the #1 selling book

Comic Book Sales Figures for February 2014
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Comic sales numbers are a bit odd on face value as the companies can inflate them in wierd ways with variant covers and shit.

They will make say 1 in every 4 of an issue a variant cover. Lots of regular comic buyers will want that cover, so if you have 10 customers who want the variant, you need to order 40 issues of that comic. It is pretty awful.
 
Goatface

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no. don't think there are any total digital sales breakdowns released


from another chart on that site

TOP 300 COMICS UNIT SALES
February 2014: 5.92 million copies
Versus 1 year ago this month: -16%
Versus 5 years ago this month: +5%
Versus 10 years ago this month: +10%
Versus 15 years ago this month: unchanged

TOP 300 COMICS DOLLAR SALES
February 2014: $21.71 million
Versus 1 year ago this month: -14%
Versus 5 years ago this month: +13%
Versus 10 years ago this month: +42%
Versus 15 years ago this month: +43%
 
Grimmlokk

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Blackyce

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Zhaun_sl said:
Comic sales numbers are a bit odd on face value as the companies can inflate them in wierd ways with variant covers and shit.

They will make say 1 in every 4 of an issue a variant cover. Lots of regular comic buyers will want that cover, so if you have 10 customers who want the variant, you need to order 40 issues of that comic. It is pretty awful.
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There is no inflating numbers. Those are the total sales requested to Diamond Distributors. Yes when The Walking Dead had freaking 20ish variant covers for a special comic, it sold a ton but those are still sales.

Take this example: Next month Peter Parker will return as Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man will come back replacing Superior Spider-Man but it will not start off at 701, it will restart at #1. It will also have 10 different covers.
1 ALEX ROSS SKETCH VARIANT 1:300
1 ALEX ROSS VARIANT 1:75
1 SKOTTIE YOUNG VARIANT
1 REGULAR EDITION COVER
1 CAMPBELL COVER B CONNECTING COVER
1 BLANK CON VARIANT COVER
1 OPENA VARIANT COVER 1:75
1 MHAN VARIANT COVER
1 MCGUINNESS VARIANT COVER 1:75
1 MARTIN VARIANT COVER 1:50

These covers usually go for about $0.50 -$1 per rarity so the 1:50 is $25-$50 depending on your comic shop. I have bought the 1:100 variants of a number of #1 issues for about $75 usually but with Amazing Spider-Man, the 1:300 cover is already being pre-sold on ebay for around $600.

What this means is that the store that buys 300 issues can possibly sell that one issue they receive for anywhere between $300-$600 depending on who the get to buy it. They will also receive six, 1:50 covers and four each of the 1:75 covers that they can sell. If they sell them for the least amount, say $25 for the 1:50 and $50 for the 1:75, they can make around $950 or more just off those variant covers. Add in making about $300 for the 1:300 one and you get over $1250 at the low end. The comic?s cover price is $3.99 so $4x300 issues needed = $1200. Actually it?s less because they aren?t paying cover price. So buying 300 issues makes sense if you think you can sell all of the variant covers as they alone will cover the cost of your 300 book purchase.

But sales are sales. They are not based off of how much each comic book dealer sells to the public, they are based off of how much are sold to the comic book dealers. If a book isn?t selling, they don?t purchase many of it. If it's really popular like Amazing Spider-Man, they will buy them and will try to get the variants as well.
 
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