Goatface
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tad10
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Bloomberg is the biggest tool on the planet. He's a billionaire with very expensive, very armed security yet he wants to prevent the not a billionth as rich from being able to protect themselves.
If I was the NRA I would take shots of his security detail and post them on the web.
That's the problem with the way people are looking at this though. No system will ever be perfectly fool proof and safe. Nothing we do will eliminate the mass killing of people. Crazy nutjobs will find a way.
Locking up a gun will prevent some strung out depressed loser from getting a hold of a gun. Now if you are talking about intelligent psychopaths, that is a different story and not related to the underlying discussion of this shooting.
Heck, I even imagine it would be fairly cheap to install some sort of tamper alarm on a gun safe to send a message to your cell phone if somebody is fucking with it.
ahh, he was the one who said it, I still agree that cops shouldn't be mandatory. I don't take a black and white view to politics. If I don't like an idea, I don't care which party the politician belongs too.
earthfell
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I think this is what the NRA was afraid of. They tried to draw the line in the sand with assault rifles so the handguns issue would stay nice and safe. They might lose that battle within the year, and people will start paying more attention to the chart you are showing. Yes, we have the right to bear arms, but how many is too many, and how can the government regulate that ownership? That is a conversation the NRA most definitely does not even want to get near at, and they know all roads lead to handguns.Here you go. Don't let the facts get in your way. The stupidity of the liberal/left in this country never ceases to amaze me. "We must have immediate action" to ban those scary looking black rifles that account for a tiny fraction of all gun deaths within the country.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/if-you...6#.UNUnEXfNl8G
Fuse
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It's illegal to speed, drive drunk and run over people with a car, so no need to have drivers licensed then?
Are you being intentionally misleading?
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You did post a link up there I suppose, I'm not sure why you two are arguing though. It sounds like you both are open to the same shit.
No gun bans just better regulation.
Fuse
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Wat? No I haven't.
That link might not work.my post on this page linking my post on another page in this thread_sl said:
It's depressing, but not surpising, to see our politicians go right back for the 'ban scary looking guns' approach. Typical easy fix that dosen't adress the problem.
I am just as frustrated with the people shitting up my facebook with 'Guns dont kill people' as I am with the 'Ban Guns' people. As usual the national conversation is being driven by people on the lunatic fringe.
I would like to see something like the following.
1. Background checks for 100% of gun sales and a recorded transfer of ownership (like the title to a car)
2. If you want something more efficient at killing people than a bolt action rifle, shotgun or revolver you have to belong to a shooting range for some period of time (6 months, a year), complete a training program, demonstrate proficiency and pass a psych evaluation before you are allowed to take the weapon home. Same type of deal for CCW permits.
3. Gun owners have to provide proof of secure storage for thier firearms.
4. Periodic requalification for owned firearms.
5. Gun safety taught in schools starting in elementary school.
And really, most of that is not much different than obtaining a drivers license.
If people want military style weapons, they should go through vetting and training similar to military or law enforcement personnel. I dont even mind full auto ownership (zomg actual assault rifle!) if the vetting and training were stringent enough. I'd probably draw the line at belt fed weapons and explosives, maybe large caliber weapons (.50 and up?)
I imagine most responsible gun owners want only responsible people owning guns, just like everyone else.
So, that's the easy part, the harder, and at least equally important part is revamping mental health care. Don't even know where to get started there, but not having to wait until people commit a crime to get care might be a good start.
I am just as frustrated with the people shitting up my facebook with 'Guns dont kill people' as I am with the 'Ban Guns' people. As usual the national conversation is being driven by people on the lunatic fringe.
I would like to see something like the following.
1. Background checks for 100% of gun sales and a recorded transfer of ownership (like the title to a car)
2. If you want something more efficient at killing people than a bolt action rifle, shotgun or revolver you have to belong to a shooting range for some period of time (6 months, a year), complete a training program, demonstrate proficiency and pass a psych evaluation before you are allowed to take the weapon home. Same type of deal for CCW permits.
3. Gun owners have to provide proof of secure storage for thier firearms.
4. Periodic requalification for owned firearms.
5. Gun safety taught in schools starting in elementary school.
And really, most of that is not much different than obtaining a drivers license.
If people want military style weapons, they should go through vetting and training similar to military or law enforcement personnel. I dont even mind full auto ownership (zomg actual assault rifle!) if the vetting and training were stringent enough. I'd probably draw the line at belt fed weapons and explosives, maybe large caliber weapons (.50 and up?)
I imagine most responsible gun owners want only responsible people owning guns, just like everyone else.
So, that's the easy part, the harder, and at least equally important part is revamping mental health care. Don't even know where to get started there, but not having to wait until people commit a crime to get care might be a good start.
tad10
Elisha Dushku
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300 million guns is way beyond too many. This is the number that people wanting gun control don't get. There are almost as many guns as people in the US. And that number is going up. 2 million guns were bought in November because of Obama's re-election. More will be bought this month and next month. All this talk of gun control has done nothing but put money into the hands of Smith & Wesson & Co.
Furthermore, does the House have any reason to vote for gun control? No. Will it pass? Something might pass but it'll be so watered down as to be worthless. Sound & Fury signifying nothing.
So when I say Republicans are racist.... amirite?
By the way, there was this little thing calledhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_slaverythat just sort of had a impact on the socioeconomic condition of Blacks.
Think that is old news? Notice how a map of slave vs. free states resembles a map of the 2012 Presidential election.
The day of reckoning is coming for our wingnut House of Representatives. You can take that to the bank.
Blakkheim
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The conversation that certain politicians (and their media cohorts) don't want to have is that the good majority of these gun deaths are occurring within the socialist utopias known as our inner cities such as Chicago, LA, DC, etc. These deaths go mostly ignored for various reasons (such as because of their ethnicity and skin color) but mainly because it would shine a light on the complete and utter failure of their social and economic policies in these areas. If you really want to get serious about reducing these numbers, how about we do something about the insane drug prohibition policies we have in this country instead of starting up a new gun prohibition policy. That would be a good start. You would see an immediate impact I'm willing to bet.
Fuse
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I agree with this, but think we should do both.
Edit: Regulation, not prohibition. Gun prohibition would be about as effective as drug prohibition.
B_Mizzle
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Very unlikely Bitch. Thanks to all our fine republican governors and state legislators we will have a republican controlled house for the foreseeable future. You liberals might have the presidency, but republicans still have you by the balls.
Idk, Obama signed that bill into law that allows for the indefinite detention (without trial) of American's in the US the other day. Soon they will be rounding up all the republicans for re-education camps. /tinfoilhat
earthfell
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In what capacity is the inner city a "socialist utopia?" I've never heard anyone describe it as such. And no one is ignoring inner city violence on the left, it has always been a central issue but one that local and state governments don't want to deal with. These issues are much more complex than a simple left vs right, socialism argument.
earthfell
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Judging by the look and sound of Lindsey Graham, I bet he has them in his mouth.
