We were talking about the value of protecting the President's children a couple pages ago. Even if the President has balls of hammered bronze and can keep his shit together and remain objective while his children are held hostage by violent criminals, think of the devastating blow to the country's morale if some shit like that went sour. If the children of the President are not safe, in many peoples' eyes, nobody is. Which, of course, is the fact: nobody really is safe, ever. But people don't like facts. They like comfort. I would therefore argue that there is greater value in protecting Preslings than an average person; they are important symbols to many people that the President is like them, raising a family, loving his children, helping make the world safer for them. Even if they need 8-16 servicemen apiece to escort them around, that's important so that the President can focus on important decisions (like which kind of skateboard to ride up to podiums--kidding, don't taze me, bro) and more importantly, so we don't have to see another 12 years of insane and bigoted zealotry and domestic paranoia flare up after we suffer another blow to "our nation's pride" in the form of a terrorist attack.
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I absolutely think the Presidents family needs extra protection and thought the NRA add was retarded.
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Tuco
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How long do you think it'd take for you to teach an experienced and competent machinist to be able to accurately reload typical .223 or 5.56 rounds?
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General Antony
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Reading about those 3D printers. They do look promising, the only models I was able to find for sale now print plastic / teflon like materials.
It does look they are doing research into printers than can "print" metal alloys. Maybe some time in the near future this will be viable for more durable objects.
It's going to suck for copy right holders when people can just print out whatever they want at will just for the cost of the energy / materials. Sucks to be them.
I'm sure technical specs for different manufactured products will be all over the internet. Download spec off "the pirate printer bay" and hit print. If these become viable, I would imagine the only stuff that would be hard to print would be electronic components or large scale objects like an engine block. Of course people would still have to learn how to put the various components together that comprise whatever it is they are compiling, but open source step by step instructions can be made I'm sure.
It does look they are doing research into printers than can "print" metal alloys. Maybe some time in the near future this will be viable for more durable objects.
It's going to suck for copy right holders when people can just print out whatever they want at will just for the cost of the energy / materials. Sucks to be them.
I'm sure technical specs for different manufactured products will be all over the internet. Download spec off "the pirate printer bay" and hit print. If these become viable, I would imagine the only stuff that would be hard to print would be electronic components or large scale objects like an engine block. Of course people would still have to learn how to put the various components together that comprise whatever it is they are compiling, but open source step by step instructions can be made I'm sure.
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Using published load data with known powder and bullet weights, 15 minutes.
To actually be able to develop loads, 40-60 hours or so. A solid work week.
It's not difficult, but there are roughly 50 types of powder with very different burn rates. A fast burning powder with too heavy of a bullet and too much or too little case volume can explode very quickly.
Petition to make the White House a gun free zone.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...zones/6RDGkxLK
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...zones/6RDGkxLK
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My brother was telling me the other day that reloading equipment purchases were skyrocketing, so I guess people are planning for the long haul.
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The next time some conservative troll calls this forum a liberal circle jerk, someone should bring up banning Assault Rifles and extended clips and all the "liberals" will start sounding quite different.
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Gun politics are very prevalent in Chicago, where you'll also see very high rates of gun related violent crimes. Fact.
The irony of talking about the benefits of stricter gun laws at C of U is worth noting.
Part of the joke is that .223 Remington and 5.56x45 are usually the same.
Technically, theycan be different. You can always use .223 Remington in a 5.56x45 rifle, but the other way around could cause problems, particularly in older .223 rifles.
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How are you going to ban "bullets" since anyone can cast their own using wheel weights and maybe a little linotype if you want them a little harder and a $20 mould?
As for as reloading goes you can load a cartridge with as little as a $30 lee loader that you hold in your hand and dies are out there and literally last more than a persons lifetime and anyone with a lathe can make their own dies with practice.
Before the 1994 AWB there was a lot of talk of limiting components like primers, make them limited availability, make them more difficult to ship (they already require an ORM-D hazardous payment/sticker) or limt how many you could buy at a time etc...
Powder last nearly forever if kept in the right conditions. I still load my .30-06 with WWII surplus 4831 powder that I inherited from my great uncle who bought it shortly after WWII. Straight wall pistol brass will last a long time and low pressure brass like the .45 ACP will last nearly forever (I have some that are 30+ years old and have been shot so much the headstamp has gone away), while higher pressure rounds will eventually need so much trimming to the point that they wear out it still takes a long time. A rifle cartridge will have to be trimmed and annealed to make it last a long time, but you can AI (Ackley Improve, put a rounded shoulder on a cartridge insted of a sharp angle) and the brass won't flow so much into the shoulder and won't require trimming and will last many reloads.
Here's the bare minimum needed to relaod a brass cartridge, the press is handheld and the dies are easily available or can be made by a toolmaker or someone with experience and a lathe and will last forever.
As for as reloading goes you can load a cartridge with as little as a $30 lee loader that you hold in your hand and dies are out there and literally last more than a persons lifetime and anyone with a lathe can make their own dies with practice.
Before the 1994 AWB there was a lot of talk of limiting components like primers, make them limited availability, make them more difficult to ship (they already require an ORM-D hazardous payment/sticker) or limt how many you could buy at a time etc...
Powder last nearly forever if kept in the right conditions. I still load my .30-06 with WWII surplus 4831 powder that I inherited from my great uncle who bought it shortly after WWII. Straight wall pistol brass will last a long time and low pressure brass like the .45 ACP will last nearly forever (I have some that are 30+ years old and have been shot so much the headstamp has gone away), while higher pressure rounds will eventually need so much trimming to the point that they wear out it still takes a long time. A rifle cartridge will have to be trimmed and annealed to make it last a long time, but you can AI (Ackley Improve, put a rounded shoulder on a cartridge insted of a sharp angle) and the brass won't flow so much into the shoulder and won't require trimming and will last many reloads.
Here's the bare minimum needed to relaod a brass cartridge, the press is handheld and the dies are easily available or can be made by a toolmaker or someone with experience and a lathe and will last forever.