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Pulled the trigger on this for the new living room setup:
Panasonic TC-P60S60 - SMART VIERA 60 Class S60 Series Full HD Plasma TV (60.1 Diag.) - Overview
Decided to go with that over this:
Panasonic TC-P60ST60 - VIERA 60 Class ST60 Series Full HD Plasma TV (60.1 Diag.) - Overview
After reading about input lag issue.
Panasonic TC-P60S60 - SMART VIERA 60 Class S60 Series Full HD Plasma TV (60.1 Diag.) - Overview
Decided to go with that over this:
Panasonic TC-P60ST60 - VIERA 60 Class ST60 Series Full HD Plasma TV (60.1 Diag.) - Overview
After reading about input lag issue.
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I'm curious to see which direction Panasonic Plasma TVs go this Cyber Monday/Black Friday. I wonder if stores will be blowing them out with crazy sales because Panasonic is no longer making plasmas, or if prices will stay even(if not go up) as people scramble to get the last of them.
The input lag is an absolute non-issue, for me at least. It is completely undetectable with game mode on for everything that I've played including Shooters and super fast reflex action games like Metal Gear Rising.
It might be noticeable if you are into the pro Fighting Game scene and stuff with 2D games and where counting frames matters, but otherwise you'll probably never see it. Also if you're into that you have a dedicated monitor for them specifically anyways, probably.
The ST60 is amazing and just gorgeous as fuck. It is by far the best electronic device I've ever purchased.
Saw this seanfoh guy posting on avsforums during my research ; )
This is the article that eventually tipped things in my mind:
Game mode on: CNET tests TVs for input lag | TV and Home Theater - CNET Reviews
Long story short, they tested a ton of TVs and CNET's video game editor was able to guess this list pretty damn accurately and didn't miss when asked to compare just 2 tvs. That being said he *does* have the benefit of testing them side by side.
Sigh, I still might fucking waffle on this. Went back and forth all day yesterday. grumble.
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Whats the price difference here? $200 or so. I'd just grab the S60 and be done with it, since it does perform better. That's only like and extra ~15% in cost, it's not like it's double the price or something. $200 for the peace of mind of not wondering every time you play a shooter if it really feels laggy, or if you are just imagining it, lol.
Well, that's the crap thing. The st60 is better in every way but for the input lag. It is the more expensive tv, but like you say, not by much.
I did switch to the st60. Ultimately, this TV will be used *maybe* 5% of the time to play a 'twitchy' game. I'd rather it be the best in the other 95% of the useage cases.
Good stuff. Thanks guys.
I did switch to the st60. Ultimately, this TV will be used *maybe* 5% of the time to play a 'twitchy' game. I'd rather it be the best in the other 95% of the useage cases.
Good stuff. Thanks guys.
You won't regret it, it's amazingly gorgeous.
I do wish that they had released the GT60 over here though, it's bullshit that they killed the GT line in North America. If anyone in the UK is looking for a TV the GT60 is definitely the set to get.
I do wish that they had released the GT60 over here though, it's bullshit that they killed the GT line in North America. If anyone in the UK is looking for a TV the GT60 is definitely the set to get.
The 2013 GT60s have the same processor in them as the VTs. There's much difference between it and the STs image quality wise, but it has low input lag like the VT/ZT 60s. I don't think the stuff with the ST60 is really noticeable, but it would be nice for "peace of mind".
Alternatively, someone could just hack the ST60's firmware, remove all the smart TV crap, and it'd probably have the same effect. Sadly, no one has done this yet. It's also possible that you could replace the ST60's processor board with a GT60's.
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Do you specifically need to use the apps that are built into the TV, or are you just looking for a simple way to use Netflix or Youtube? You could always snag a Chromecast for $35. Plugs into an HDMI port, can be powered from a USB port on your TV, no need for a wall plug or anything, and it's 802.11b/g/nI have the generation before Samsung started putting in WiFi in them. Is there a wireless adapter that works for the older TVs with USB ports that are actually faster than 54Mbps? I know Rosewill made one, but it's way too slow to stream anything on it.
It won't do everything that something like a Roku or Boxee would(for now), but if you just want Netflix on your TV, it doesn't get much simpler or cheaper
Pulled the trigger at Costco today and got the Vizio E551i-A2. Beautiful 55 inch screen. Haven't used the smart stuff yet and probably won't since I have a PS3 and laptop connected to it. Couldn't pass up the $750 price tag along with a square trade warranty for an additional $59. 5 years of protection puts my mind at ease. Costco is the best!
Anyone else have this TV and have some calibration recommendations? I already turned off the auto dimming feature and the soap opera smoothing effect.
Anyone else have this TV and have some calibration recommendations? I already turned off the auto dimming feature and the soap opera smoothing effect.
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If you go to the AVS forums there is almost always a listing of professional calibration settings for pretty much every TV. Or will be, if it is brand new. For something like that Vizio it might be settings for a range of models, but it should be pretty close to what you want to use.
I looked on there and found settinsg for the E601i and E701i but not for the 55. The settings worked except the color correction recommendations were all 100+, but my TV color settings max out at 100. Weird.
No clue if it helps but on mine only certain values would open when the tv was in a particular mode / setting.