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From the 2010 Federal Register
I would feel bad taking your money Vaclav.
These are not the predictions of yours truly: an Obama-disliking, Obamacare hating Libertarian, but the people running Obamacare.
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I would feel bad taking your money Vaclav.
These are not the predictions of yours truly: an Obama-disliking, Obamacare hating Libertarian, but the people running Obamacare.
Vaclav
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You do realize that's not going from "Old Policies to No Coverage" like your statement was implying, right?
That's saying dropping "Grandfathered Plans" - could be going to no coverage or going to the new Metallic Tier plan stuff. Which looks to have already happened to be frank, most policies are getting moved over into them. That's not the same as employers dropping all coverage like you stated.
In fact, actually double checking the wording on the question - I don't even think IF they have an estimate of places that are dropping insurance that would even count them - it's "policies losing their grandfathered status" which implies the policy is still being continued. You marred the context completely.
That's saying dropping "Grandfathered Plans" - could be going to no coverage or going to the new Metallic Tier plan stuff. Which looks to have already happened to be frank, most policies are getting moved over into them. That's not the same as employers dropping all coverage like you stated.
In fact, actually double checking the wording on the question - I don't even think IF they have an estimate of places that are dropping insurance that would even count them - it's "policies losing their grandfathered status" which implies the policy is still being continued. You marred the context completely.
tad10
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Most of the people who get dropped will end up with no coverage and yes employers are dropping coverage once the employer mandate hits. They have no choice.
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Tad you might have better reception if you don't hyper bowl. I'm not going to bother arguing with you I just want you to take memory of all the dumb shit you're taking to bank and ke me know how it panned out
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The government clearly at fault because a private sector consultant undertook a one of a kind job it wasn't staffed to handle.
tad10
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So you are saying that people aren't going to lose insurance when the employer mandate hits?
Is that because you think the millions who have lost reasonably priced insurance under the individual mandate and are unable to pay 5x their previous rate to purchase Obamacare insurance aren't trying hard enough? That they should have given up video games, going out to dinner (except for McDonald's dollar menu) and buying new clothes so they can afford the outrageous cost of Ocare insurance?
Or are you saying this because you think "it is for the best" that these millions upon millions of people lose their insurance so the left can try to foist single-payer national health insurance and death panels on the nation?
Does the phrase "you are a fucking liberal tool" mean anything to you?
tad10
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Don't people get kicked off their insurance every year when they have yearly contracts that can be "changed" after their expiry?
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Boehner Fails to Fail on Obamacare
JOSH MARSHALL - NOVEMBER 23, 2013, 4:00 PM EST3032
Late last week Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) made a big show of trying but failing to sign up for Obamacare because of the notoriously buggy website. (Actually he appears to have been using the DC exchange site.) He even did a special tweet noting his hopeless situation. Not terribly surprising given the frustrating experiences so many have had.
Actually, it turns out he had successfully enrolled and got a call confirming that about an hour after his tweet. But it gets better.
According to Scott MacFarlane, a reporter for the local NBC affiliate in Washington, reports that a DC Health Care exchange representative actually tried to contact Boehner by phone during the enrollment process but was put on hold for 35 minutes, after which time the representative finally hung up.
John Boehner basically tried to avoid to talking to people whom he contacted in the first place to get enrolled into a health care plan in order to attempt to make the ACA look like a failure. He failed at failing.
JOSH MARSHALL - NOVEMBER 23, 2013, 4:00 PM EST3032
Late last week Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) made a big show of trying but failing to sign up for Obamacare because of the notoriously buggy website. (Actually he appears to have been using the DC exchange site.) He even did a special tweet noting his hopeless situation. Not terribly surprising given the frustrating experiences so many have had.
Actually, it turns out he had successfully enrolled and got a call confirming that about an hour after his tweet. But it gets better.
According to Scott MacFarlane, a reporter for the local NBC affiliate in Washington, reports that a DC Health Care exchange representative actually tried to contact Boehner by phone during the enrollment process but was put on hold for 35 minutes, after which time the representative finally hung up.
John Boehner basically tried to avoid to talking to people whom he contacted in the first place to get enrolled into a health care plan in order to attempt to make the ACA look like a failure. He failed at failing.
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It's not private when the government is in charge that's the whole point is they can't fail because the taxpayers pay for everything. The same company that was contracted to build healthcare.gov had a contract with New York at one point, they quoted the job at 65 million but it cost 700 million in the end. It's totally false to call that a private sector arrangement when the government is the employer it changes everything to have the ability to tax more to cover waste and losses.
Burnem Wizfyre
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Let's get this straight, if the government hires someone to do a job and the people hired to do the job fails, its the governments fault?
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Especially when that company had a known horrible track record, like overshooting their budgets by 1,000%, yes.
But that isn't even what I was saying, I was saying when you have a government employer it changes the dynamics of the relationship, it no longer obeys the same rules when your employer can just tax and spend more to cover up fuckups instead of being forced to work within a budget.
It's so false to call that the "private sector"
But that isn't even what I was saying, I was saying when you have a government employer it changes the dynamics of the relationship, it no longer obeys the same rules when your employer can just tax and spend more to cover up fuckups instead of being forced to work within a budget.
It's so false to call that the "private sector"