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Sithro

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Hrm, I dunno man. Might be a money dump. I did get 8 packs, though. Got 3 epics I think. I guess I could at least max out all the casual match characters.
 

Famm

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just jumping back in this thread abit.
Don't really feel the need to stick around rehashing dislike.

but saw this and felt the need to restate. Try Duel of Champions. Its basically to Hearthstone, what path of exile is to Diablo3.
It very elegantly solves so many of the problems hearthstone has.
the board/lanes solves both the attack/defend issue, as well as sets up a proper means of attacking the champion directly, vs defending the champion.
It solves the coin vs 1st turn/2nd turn much better, by having stat requirements on cards. As well as creating another new system and complexity to deck building with it.

The only things I miss from hearthstone are drag and drop UI, voice acting, and clicking random shit on the screen while waiting for the opponent.
I tried it last time you made this post. His first three impressions about HS (Holy shit this game looks amazing! Production value is through the roof, as expected from Blizzard. Good good! This is so much fun!) are all absent.

I trust that you know what you're taking about with CCG's and its a better designed card game with more depth. But those first three points were a deal breaker immediately for me and there's going to be lots of players like me.

Most people that are going to get into HS aren't going to be M:TG heads looking for an online version, they are going to be semi casuals drawn in by the Blizzard name. They will get hooked by a slick, easy, simple user friendly game first and the gameplay mechanics second and they won't know what it "should" be to understand what is missing.

Shill that game all you want but it just felt clunky and confusing to even look at to me and the tutorial was more annoying than engaging so I uninstalled and went back to HS.
 

Caliane

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I tried it last time you made this post. His first three impressions about HS (Holy shit this game looks amazing! Production value is through the roof, as expected from Blizzard. Good good! This is so much fun!) are all absent.

I trust that you know what you're taking about with CCG's and its a better designed card game with more depth. But those first three points were a deal breaker immediately for me and there's going to be lots of players like me.

Most people that are going to get into HS aren't going to be M:TG heads looking for an online version, they are going to be semi casuals drawn in by the Blizzard name. They will get hooked by a slick, easy, simple user friendly game first and the gameplay mechanics second and they won't know what it "should" be to understand what is missing.

Shill that game all you want but it just felt clunky and confusing to even look at to me and the tutorial was more annoying than engaging so I uninstalled and went back to HS.
yeah, that fair enough. tutorial is shit, and yeah, the click, click, click for playing cards blows, compared to HS's drag and drop, and queuing of multiple cards.
But definitely like that game way more for its underlying mechanics, and want to make sure its not overlooked by anyone that finds Hearthstone a bit lacking.
 

Thrawnseg_sl

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Wisp is actually not the worst pick for Rogue (combos, especially if you get zero back stabs).

I just had a Shaman Lava Burst by 3/5 with taunt.... he still had 28 health. Weird. Screwed him for his next turn to, he played nothing.
Yea, think that was me. I had nothing to do anyways. Can't remember what else happened, but I had no plays anyways and my deck needed to get a 3/5 off the board.
 

Ishad

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Starting Stone #1: Six Steps to an Ultimate Deck

all the info you need in that, and the #2 and #3 articles that are linked to get you started. have fun!

You do not need to spend a lot, I recommend dropping $30-$40 just to unlock most of the commons, a whole bunch of rares, and you'll probably get a few epics and maybe a legendary or two to disenchant to get you really started. You pay in either time or money, if you don't want to spend the bucks, expect to grind for about 3-4 weeks instead.
The free to play grind is frustrating at times if like me you do mediocre in the arena. I'm at just over 4 weeks in and now just finished the recommend neutral cards. I'm not sure at this point if it is better crafting class specific cards or saving for legendaries.
 

Mures

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The free to play grind is frustrating at times if like me you do mediocre in the arena. I'm at just over 4 weeks in and now just finished the recommend neutral cards. I'm not sure at this point if it is better crafting class specific cards or saving for legendaries.
If you have a class you like to play and are missing rares/epics you'd probably get more bang for your dust that way. The best neutral legendaries such as ragnaros, sylvanas, and thalnos are great cards, but they are also just one card.
 

Ishad

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I've been pretty lucky on legendaries, I've got sylvanas, van cleef, tirion fording, and a gold geddon.

I'm running a cheap warlock deck that works fine for the most part, rogue seems like it would be the cheapest to get up to speed (need defias*2, evis, and agent*2). I'd like to play a paladin more but sword of justice and avenging wrath, rag make it super expensive.
 

Angelwatch

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Good news is that today I got a 60 gold daily. Bad news is that it's the Hunter/Druid one (by far my worst decks).

I'm sure everyone does this too but I abandon any 40 gold daily regardless of what it is. Worst case I end up with another 40 gold daily and lost nothing. I keep all 60 gold ones and the 100 gold daily.
 

The Master

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Good news is that today I got a 60 gold daily. Bad news is that it's the Hunter/Druid one (by far my worst decks).

I'm sure everyone does this too but I abandon any 40 gold daily regardless of what it is. Worst case I end up with another 40 gold daily and lost nothing. I keep all 60 gold ones and the 100 gold daily.
Arena counts for the quests, so you could try drafting Druid or Hunter.

And yeah I abandon any 40g quest hoping for an upgrade.
 

Pyros

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Good news is that today I got a 60 gold daily. Bad news is that it's the Hunter/Druid one (by far my worst decks).

I'm sure everyone does this too but I abandon any 40 gold daily regardless of what it is. Worst case I end up with another 40 gold daily and lost nothing. I keep all 60 gold ones and the 100 gold daily.
I have very basic decks I run in ranked to get those dailies done if I don' feel like drafting those in arena. Druid I would just draft though, but like Hunter, Warrior and Warlock I can never get anything done in arena with them so I just play in ranked with a shitty mostly neutral decks. I did disenchant nozdormu and a couple of shit golds to craft a Rag but overall I haven't crafted much in constructed.

Had a play 5games as druid or 7games or whatever the other day so I made a tentative druid deck, with like no ancient of lore, 1 ancient of war and shit like that since I'm missing most cards or only have one copy. Key card though has been Mana Wraith, got it in my starting hand in like 4games, it's a really nice card to kill the enemy early game agression, and once the druid gets to 5+mana it's just big mob after big mob anyway. Anyway point is, with a meh deck I still had no issue winning because I was like rank 24. Think I went down to rank 16 doing the daily or something. If you're already quite leveled though I guess that's not gonna work as easily, but the control druid deck is very strong if you have a few of the decent cards
 

Mures

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I've been pretty lucky on legendaries, I've got sylvanas, van cleef, tirion fording, and a gold geddon.

I'm running a cheap warlock deck that works fine for the most part, rogue seems like it would be the cheapest to get up to speed (need defias*2, evis, and agent*2). I'd like to play a paladin more but sword of justice and avenging wrath, rag make it super expensive.
Yeah, if you've got a sylvanas and all the good neutrals already I'd start crafting cards to fill out a few of your decks you like the best. Probably only craft commons/rares if they are really needed, like for example your rogue deck, you can substitute pretty much any 2 drop for defias' until you open them, but a 2nd eviscerate and si7 agents are well worth crafting.
Epics are good to craft, but also consider that it is 400 dust for just that one class, so make sure you're in love with the class and card.
 

Pyros

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Some classes don't need epics though, so it helps. For example rogue epics are shit(well patient assassin is ok, but definitely not needed and can be replaced by either a worgen infiltrator or a cobra depending on what you wanna do with it). Priest epics are also shit, Hunter are soso and definitely can be skipped, Warlock epics are generally not the cards you want for the popular warlock style(they're good for control lock though). On the other hand of the spectrum, Paladin and Druid epics are fucking awesome, Mages definitely want at least one Pyroblast I'd say, Shamans want 2 earth elem but the other 2 are fairly shit, Warrior depends but Brawl is nice to have.

So overall depends heavily on your class, some classes don't need to craft a single epic and don't lose much, others definitely need at least 2-4. Then you have neutral epics, I think one big game hunter in every deck unless you have a hard removal in your class is a pretty solid bet(can replace by a tinkmaster but since it's legendary it's not a very good replacement, dust wise) and Faceless manipulators are fucking awesome especially once you play people with legendaries or control druids.
 

Angelwatch

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I'm trying to decide what direction I want to go next. Currently I have a full Mage set (minus 1 Spellbinder so meh) and my Warlock Aggro Rush deck (minus Leeroy to completely optimize it). I really like Paladin decks but they are VERY expensive and I'd need to craft the 2 guys who reduce attack to 1 (200 dust there), 1 Sword of Justice, and at least 1 Lay On Hands. And even then I still don't have all the Legendary cards to make it work (bare minimum I need Tirion I think). Druids seem really strong but I'm in a similar situation to Paladin. I only have 1 Ancient Of Lore so I'd need the two Ancients of War and a Ragnaros (which still means it's cheaper than Paladin).

My current Legendary status is:
Archmage Antonidas
Grommash Hellscream
Sylvanas
Ysera

I've got 870 dust banked and can, safely, Disenchant another 600 to 1,000 worth of other things.

Mainly thinking out loud but always like to hear others thoughts and opinions.
 

elidib

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You could try the Warrior OTK deck from the #1 guy. it doesn't need legendaries, only a couple epics, and it's more fun/complex to play than straight aggro rush.

Or, you could make a priest deck work, you don't necessarily need ragnaros for that.
 

The Master

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You could try the Warrior OTK deck from the #1 guy. it doesn't need legendaries, only a couple epics, and it's more fun/complex to play than straight aggro rush.

Or, you could make a priest deck work, you don't necessarily need ragnaros for that.
Which warrior OTK deck?
 

Amzin

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lol, low end warrior vs. warrior game. Both of us had 15+ armor at one point with empty boards. Both hit fatigue, but I had a minion left and he didn't. Woo!
 

Angelwatch

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- Warrior plays defensively and lets themselves get down to about 12 life (give or take) and a full hand.
- Warrior drops the guy who grants charge to other minions
- Warrior drops Mountain Giants and attacks
- Warrior drops Molten Giants and attacks
- Warrior drops Brewmaster to return a Giant to his hand and attacks with the Brewmaster
- Warrior drops Giant and attacks again

Assuming the opponent doesn't have a taunt up, they just took something like 32 (or more) points of damage in one turn.
 

elidib

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Which warrior OTK deck?
Razor's #1 Legend NA WARRIOR deck : hearthstone

This one.

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thalnos is replaceable by the geomancer for a non-legendary version.