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Angelwatch
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Holy fuck.
Curis Board Control Warlock v2
This is, by far, one of the roughest decks I have ever seen. I've only lost with it once out of about 6 games due to getting a really bad opening hand (which is statistically unlikely but as we all know there is a probability greater than zero). Opponent plays a minion? It dies. Opponent plays a board clear? You survive it and continue pressure. My anti-aggro Druid deck deals OK with it but it's still a tough match up.
Curis Board Control Warlock v2
This is, by far, one of the roughest decks I have ever seen. I've only lost with it once out of about 6 games due to getting a really bad opening hand (which is statistically unlikely but as we all know there is a probability greater than zero). Opponent plays a minion? It dies. Opponent plays a board clear? You survive it and continue pressure. My anti-aggro Druid deck deals OK with it but it's still a tough match up.
Elerion
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To be fair, I expect anyone who hasn't lived under a rock knows what the main character in Twilight looks like. Didn't know his name personally, but I probably would if I knew someone who talked about the series.
Had my second 12-win arena tonight. Shaman, shitty curve but lots of really strong cards. Only lost when I faced a perfect curve, since my 1-3 drops were nearly non-existent.
That deck has been around, and I rank it slightly less then the agros imho. Considering you can still play control with the agro decks.
Also Mukla is bad card imho. There's 3 classes that benefit greatly if you play that card.
And since Bananas are considered a spell comboing that with a pyromancer is just dumb.
Arbitrary
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Having a Mike Flores flashback.
When you go and say that aggro decks cannot play the control roleby definitionyou are just being foolish. Aggro and control are just as much a style of play as a deck archtype.
drtyrm
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Agreed. I should have gone with:
Aggro decks by definition are not control decks.
As Column's statment was:
If you notice I say that is why the current aggro deck works out better. You posting half the statement, doesn't make you any less then a full retard,
You can drop back, and play a control play style on an aggro deck.
Drtyrm is definitely that weird kid in class the teacher gave special attention to.
So thank you Mr Arbitrary for talking very slow for this one.
Mukla is a 5/5 for 3 mana turn 3. Even if your opponent uses the bananas right away, their best hope is a 5/4 for 4 mana? Not bad against most classes.
FTFY
Elerion
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What "current aggro deck" are you referring to? AFAIK, the board control warlock deck is essentially what has been referred to as the "warlock aggro deck" of the last few months, with minimal tweaks. The only significantly more aggressive warlock deck I've seen was murlocs, which has always been referred to as "murlocs".
Elerion
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The issue is that if the opponent can deal effectively with Mukla, the bananas make it significantly harder to maintain board control, since you're now letting your opponent make super efficient trades with 2 free +1/+1s. It's giving your opponent the exact same trick you're relying on to win board control.
I haven't tested him, but it looks counter intuitive in theory. He seems like he would be a better fit in a deck more reliant on single mindedly rushing your opponent down.
Problem with Mukla is those bananas are stupid powerful for at the bare minimum 3 classes.
Give those cards to a rogue = good game. A mage = same thing
Not to mention tons of decks run pyromancer. Those spell cards make that minion an insane board clear.
If the cards weren't listed as spells, then it wouldn't be as bad.
Give those cards to a rogue = good game. A mage = same thing
Not to mention tons of decks run pyromancer. Those spell cards make that minion an insane board clear.
If the cards weren't listed as spells, then it wouldn't be as bad.
Well the idea behind a control deck is to not let your opponent make super efficient trades by keeping his board clear. Hence his presence in a control deck. You don't play Mukla if you don't have board control, that's a given.
Angelwatch
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The Warlock Aggro deck and the Warlock board control deck are very similar. They both share a lot of base cards (Blood Imps, Flame Imps, Void Walkers, Knife Jugglers and so on). However, there are differences between the two decks. Board Control favors Sylvanas more than Leeroy as an example. Beyond that it's a vastly different playstyle mindset. This is one of the reasons I like the Board Control Warlock deck as opposed to the typical aggro style of play. Aggro style of play doesn't require nearly as much thought. The main premise to to keep throwing things at your opponent until they die (yeah I'm overly simplifying things there...). That's not my preferred style of play at all.
I don't think you grasp what we are saying..You are just looking at it as a part of the control deck, and we are saying it's a very dangerous play if you want to keep that control throughout the game.
I get what you are saying. I'm saying your wrong and the reason is you are under-evaluating a turn 3 5/5 on the board. I'm not the one arguing against a card in a successful deck.
its not really the same imho, even tho they share allot of the same cards.
Dropping Leeroy, Demonfire, and power overwhelming is a HUGE drop in burst.
Most people even run power overwhelming with Sylvanis in that deck for the insane burst.
Even the guy that made the deck said its dangerous in his footnotes, and honestly allot of classes can deal with that card on turn 3.
Those cards are ridiculous power especially if they can remove Mukla immediately. A rogue can pretty much win a game alone with those cards in his deck.
But please go on with your asinine statements