Hearthstone

So last night I was watching a stream from Reynad while he did constructed at rank 2ish. When I tuned in, he was playing control warrior and giants warlock, but he was on a losing streak. He lost something like 6 of the 7 games I watched. In frustration, he created and played a generic murlock warlock deck. With the murlocs, he instantly turned it around and at rank 3 he won something like 8 out of 10 games, with it not even being close.

It was strange to watch, since me being ranked in the teens, my decks laugh at murlocs, but these rank 3 through legendary decks, with extreme budgets were just getting raped by a cheap murloc deck game after game.

Shaman rush decks are very strong against slow to build legendary decks.

I think that dude was still streaming this morning, watching him lose made me feel good because he raged. It made my rationalize all the rage I feel, he was rank 1 this morning and almost at legendary. Beast mode if he stayed straight up playing.

Hate whats your bnet ID hooker?

mures_sl said:

Oh look, its the mtg is such a superior game discussion in the hearthstone thread again, like that hasn't been brought up 100x already; quick someone post how much better hex/M&M is.

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Oh no. Somebody compared game x to game z in game x's thread.

It's not even about saying one is better. It's about this game that is hugely popular and very polished and well done visually having significant issues due to conscious design decisions. I bitch because I want to like it long term but playing it feels like "Baby's First CCG" instead of a real premium competitive title.

Krassus_sl said:

I think that dude was still streaming this morning, watching him lose made me feel good because he raged. It made my rationalize all the rage I feel, he was rank 1 this morning and almost at legendary. Beast mode if he stayed straight up playing.

Hate whats your bnet ID hooker?

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Hatorade#1550

I keep saying fuck this game yet I keep doing at least the dailies, no idea WTF is real anymore.

Gilgamel_sl said:

playing it feels like "Baby's First CCG"

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Its a Blizzard game, that really shouldn't be a surprise. Maybe the design decisions shouldn't be surprising at this point either (D3) but some of the changes they make just seem inexcusably poorly thought-out.

I basically only do the dailies at the moment also, this game for some reason makes me emotional when I lose.

The Master_sl said:

If Priests had one heal that wasn't Holy Fire they'd be so good vs Mages. Practicing a Priest deck I plan on playing after patch and I am like 50/50 with it at rank 10... vs (so far) only Mages. After patch it'll probably be pretty one-sided though, waiting for Pyro means the Priest has a couple more turns to hero power, so it'll come down to how well the early game went. Games at rank 10 are so much longer, no matter what deck I'm playing people manage to just drag it out with solid play.

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Yeah, I was strongly considering rolling a priest once the patch is out. Seems like late game control is the new popular thing and thats one thing priests can do.

Gilgamel_sl said:

It's not even about saying one is better. It's about this game that is hugely popular and very polished and well done visually having significant issues due to conscious design decisions. I bitch because I want to like it long term but playing it feels like "Baby's First CCG" instead of a real premium competitive title.

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I don't know man, developers have already stated some of the other ideas they already had in before closed beta and they felt it slowed the game down too much. While I'm sure they'll continually add things to the game to give it more variety/depth I don't think this game will ever be mtg without lands.

Famm_sl said:

Its a Blizzard game, that really shouldn't be a surprise. Maybe the design decisions shouldn't be surprising at this point either (D3) but some of the changes they make just seem inexcusably poorly thought-out.

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Such as?

Looks like the patch is out. Time to DE some stuff and craft a legendary. I already have Sylvanas, what should I make next? Thinking either Thalanos or Ragnaros.

Rag for sure, he wins games for me in arenas almost every time I am lucky enough to draw him.

attog_sl said:

Looks like the patch is out. Time to DE some stuff and craft a legendary. I already have Sylvanas, what should I make next? Thinking either Thalanos or Ragnaros.

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Depends on what you play. Both are really good though and you won't go wrong with either. For what it's worth, I think Thalnos is more useful but Ragnaros has a more noticeable impact on the game. Thalnos is subtle. You don't realize it at first but when you look back you'll realize that without Thalnos to turn Swipe into a 5 main 2 AOE nuke, you'd have lost the game. With Ragnaros you see exactly what's going on.

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Such as?

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Argent defender change effects basically nothing. UTH was still a useful card after the nerf, now for some reason they wanted it to be better and are making it possibly overpowered again in a different way. They could have nerfed OTK Warrior giant decks in a much less heavy handed way than nerfing charge and warsong to hell and back. Blood Imp could have used a slight tweak but instead they reworked the card in multiple ways that throw it completely out of wack from how it was. Just seems like they don't really have anyone playing their own game sometimes.

Angelwatch_sl said:

Depends on what you play. Both are really good though and you won't go wrong with either. For what it's worth, I think Thalnos is more useful but Ragnaros has a more noticeable impact on the game. Thalnos is subtle. You don't realize it at first but when you look back you'll realize that without Thalnos to turn Swipe into a 5 main 2 AOE nuke, you'd have lost the game. With Ragnaros you see exactly what's going on.

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I did the Thalnos, Rag will be next. With the nerf to the draw gnomes I removed both those from my mage and druid deck and replaced them with one loot hoarder and one Thalnos.

Famm_sl said:

Argent defender change effects basically nothing. UTH was still a useful card after the nerf, now for some reason they wanted it to be better and are making it possibly overpowered again in a different way. They could have nerfed OTK Warrior giant decks in a much less heavy handed way than nerfing charge and warsong to hell and back. Blood Imp could have used a slight tweak but instead they reworked the card in multiple ways that throw it completely out of wack from how it was. Just seems like they don't really have anyone playing their own game sometimes.

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So not core design then, just balancing changes during beta.

Edit: nvm

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I did the Thalnos, Rag will be next. With the nerf to the draw gnomes I removed both those from my mage and druid deck and replaced them with one loot hoarder and one Thalnos.

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Thalnos was a good choice. I use him more than Rag myself. Ragnaros wouldn't have been a wrong choice though.

Just noticed Imp gives health after the first turn now,and to a random player.

Uh...it always gave health the first turn you play it.