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jooka

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watching the pro/am nvidia stream forsen almost BM'd himself out of a win
 

Adebisi

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I'm so salty about aggro hunter right now that I made a priest anti hunter deck and am combing ranked just for hunters.
 

Gavinmad

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Why wouldn't you stick with control warrior? They have a favored match against face hunters without giving up autowins to half the ladder. Unless it's actually midrange and hybrid hunter that are giving you a problem, not facehunter. Priest still isn't the answer though.
 

Adebisi

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Why wouldn't you stick with control warrior? They have a favored match against face hunters without giving up autowins to half the ladder. Unless it's actually midrange and hybrid hunter that are giving you a problem, not facehunter. Priest still isn't the answer though.
I'm warrior'd out. Priest can be infuriatingly awesome.
 

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I've been having no probs with face or mid with this flamewaker tempo deck. Zoo and pally have been tough but that's about it. And patron ofc.
 

Famm

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I agree but i made it to rank 6 last season for the first time. Granted my deck is tricked out with Tirion, Boom, Sylvanas, and Harrison Jones but it does okay. Sitting at rank 10 in this season so far. It can do well, just be prepared for that delicious 55% win rate to make the ladder climb take for freaking ever. I really want to play Handlock but I don't have a Mal'Ganis or a Jaraxxus.
http://www.liquidhearth.com/staff/mo...h_Handlock.png

I've been playing some games with this lately and it does quite well. Of course I replaced one Coil with Jaraxxus but he hasn't really even been a factor for me mostly. If you're going to run Mal'Ganis I'd rather do it in midrange demon zoo style anyway.
 

Gavinmad

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This early in the season I'd probably run double zombie chow in handlock, aggro is urrywhere. I also would never cut down from two Ironbeaks. Sylvanas is really damn greedy in Handlock.

You can pretty easily get away with not running Jaraxxus, especially early in the season, as his main strength is burying other control decks in the late game with the value of his hero power. He is sometimes a heal against facehunter, but that is rare.
 

Famm

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There's really not too many hard to deal with taunts in the meta for now, two owls gets to be a dead card too often. Being able to silence a watcher isn't that necessary or common of an occurrence many times to warrant the second owl. The watchers are mainly for taunting up or shadowflaming. I can see the logic in the double chow, but I find the double darkbomb works about as well, and has the upside of being more versatile, close matches it can be three to the face. Plus you have hellfires for sweeping aggro too.

As far as Sylvanas, yeah you can call it greedy, but it fucks with opponents badly, they have to play around it to the point that it can effectively be a board clear, or block them from using a sweep too easily or simply all the awkward plays they have to choose because she's on the board. I can see teching it out for siphon soul maybe but without a ton of big minion threats in the meta right now, and the deck already including a BGH for the odd Boom or Rag, I think SS isn't going to get as much value as Sylv on the whole. You can also shadowflame her for great justice once in a while.

Of course with the early season and aggro, handlock can really get blown up quick at times no matter the build. Not particularly suggesting it as an early climber, just because he said he wanted to play hand but isn't because he lacks LJ and MG. Which aren't dealbreakers as that deck shows, that's all.

Handlock IS a good deck in this meta though, but probably at higher ranks more than to grind out the teens with.
 

ex-genj

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Pretty good week for freeze mage! Not a good week for shamans apparently.
 

skribble

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This early in the season I'd probably run double zombie chow in handlock, aggro is urrywhere. I also would never cut down from two Ironbeaks. Sylvanas is really damn greedy in Handlock.

You can pretty easily get away with not running Jaraxxus, especially early in the season, as his main strength is burying other control decks in the late game with the value of his hero power. He is sometimes a heal against facehunter, but that is rare.
You got a good list for control warrior anti aggro?
 

Gavinmad

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There's really not too many hard to deal with taunts in the meta, two owls gets to be a dead card too often. Being able to silence a watcher isn't that necessary or common of an occurrence many times to warrant the second owl. The watchers are mainly for taunting up or shadowflaming. I can see the logic in the double chow, but I find the double darkbomb works about as well, and has the upside of being more versatile, close matches it can be three to the face. Plus you have hellfires for sweeping aggro too.

As far as Sylvanas, yeah you can call it greedy, but it fucks with opponents badly, they have to play around it to the point that it can effectively be a board clear, or block them from using a sweep too easily or simply all the awkward plays they have to choose because she's on the board.

Of course with the early season and aggro, handlock can really get blown up quick at times no matter the build. Not particularly suggesting it as an early climber, just because he said he wanted to play hand but isn't because he lacks LJ and MG. Which aren't dealbreakers as that deck shows, that's all.

Handlock IS a good deck in this meta though, but probably at higher ranks more than to grind out the teens with.
Turn 1 zombie chow, turn 2 silence enemy mad scientist/nerubian egg/haunted creeper and trade. Gigantic tempo swing in your favor.

There is a lot more to ironbeak than silencing taunts or your own watchers.
 

Gavinmad

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You got a good list for control warrior anti aggro?
Define anti-aggro. Basically any control warrior does well against face hunter and other control decks. Aggressive midrange decks are pretty much the achilles heel of control warrior though.
 

Famm

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Turn 1 zombie chow, turn 2 silence enemy mad scientist/nerubian egg/haunted creeper and trade. Gigantic tempo swing in your favor.

There is a lot more to ironbeak than silencing taunts or your own watchers.
So silencing a single zoo minion to kill it with chow is worth running two? You're generally going to end up blowing up his board at some point and putting out walls he can't deal with if the match goes well. If not then zoo is likely to steamroll you regardless of if you drew chow and owl. The owl is probably going to get more value against zoo by silencing something he argus'ed than by nullifying deathrattles.
 

skribble

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Define anti-aggro. Basically any control warrior does well against face hunter and other control decks. Aggressive midrange decks are pretty much the achilles heel of control warrior though.
Something that would do well against zoolock, flamewaker mage and face hunter
 

Famm

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Something that would do well against zoolock, flamewaker mage and face hunter
Its a pretty standard template with some slots to tech out to your meta. Control warrior can be hell for all of those decks assuming you get a reasonably better draw. One brawl or two is a decision you have to make, that can be a huge card in this meta too.

You can see the slots that have wiggle room and decide how you need to tech it.

http://www.liquidhearth.com/staff/mo...ol_Warrior.png

http://www.liquidhearth.com/staff/mo...ol_Warrior.png

http://www.liquidhearth.com/staff/mo...ol_Warrior.png
 

Gavinmad

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Something that would do well against zoolock, flamewaker mage and face hunter
I'd play something other than control warrior? Zoo is one of control warrior's worst matchups. I'd take a standard double brawl list, make sure it has geddon, and probably cut something for a whirlwind so you have an extra answer for imp-splosion. Maybe even find room for a healbot too. None of those changes would hurt your already good facehunter matchup. Tempo mage is probably a fair matchup depending on what he draws. Despite it being a midrange deck, you're in the most trouble if he comes out with a very aggressive start, particularly if he can hide a mana wyrm behind mirror images.

probably start with

TempoStorm

Cut Harrison, Thaurissan, and Ysera for 2nd Brawl, Geddon, and whirlwind. Maybe cut Ironbeak for healbot if you want to go that far.
 

Taho

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Pretty good week for freeze mage! Not a good week for shamans apparently.
Incredibly impressive. Around what ranks were you playing? I, for one, struggle with Freeze Mage pretty much no matter what I play. I feel like I only win if the the Mage gets unlucky. Damnit... I may have to spend some dust on Doomsayers and try this out.