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The Master

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Prizes for arena have definitely gone up tho. Well they did so a while ago, a few weeks yea? This was my most recent 8-3. What's the most you can get these days for 8 or 9? Is it still better to leave the draft after 8 wins?
You get 2 card packs for 9 wins. You get more gold for 8 wins, instead of the card pack. So for cards 9 wins is better. For infinite free arena, 8 wins is better.
 

Dandai

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You get 2 card packs for 9 wins. You get more gold for 8 wins, instead of the card pack. So for cards 9 wins is better. For infinite free arena, 8 wins is better.
2 card packs for 9 wins isn't a guaranteed thing. I went 9-1 last week and only got 1 card pack, a couple golden cards, and 200+ gold.
 

The Master

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2 card packs for 9 wins isn't a guaranteed thing. I went 9-1 last week and only got 1 card pack, a couple golden cards, and 200+ gold.
I've always gotten 2, but it may just be an average. The Liquid thread I linked earlier worked out that you average more gold at 8 wins at least, because of the (I guess potential) extra card pack.
 

Neph_sl

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To expand upon Mr. MorrowGirl's neutral weapons, which would be a pretty fun and easy way to expand the game, what about gear? Make each piece have a toughness which loses value before armor. Here's a couple ideas stolen from WoW professions.

Gnomish Mind Control Cap (3 toughness) - Control an enemy minion for 3 turns
Gnomish Shrink Ray (3 toughness) - At the end of your turn, reduce a random enemy's attack to 1
Gnomish Net-o-matic Projector (3 toughness) - At the end of your turn, cast a net at a random enemy (freeze, essentially)
Green Whelp Armor (5 toughness) - When attacked, all enemy minions are put to sleep (first hit goes through. which would be a nice fuck you to weenie decks)
Robe of the Void (5 toughness) - At the end of your turn, heal a random friendly minion for 3 (essentially a neutral lightwell)
Invulnerable Mail (5 toughness) - When attacked, become immune to all damage this turn (first hit goes through again)
 

Caliane

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I've always gotten 2, but it may just be an average. The Liquid thread I linked earlier worked out that you average more gold at 8 wins at least, because of the (I guess potential) extra card pack.
i would very much suspect people are wrong on this.

That 2nd pack is almost certainly a lower gold value that is being upgraded to a card pack.
As in, sure, you COULD have gotten more gold. But the roll of the dice said you didn't, but then the second roll, now goes and determines if a value under 100 gets upgraded. so you rolled a 45 gold in that slot, but then win 9 wins, it rolls again, and upgrades it to a pack, probably.
 

Neph_sl

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Nice ideas other than being extremely overpowered.
Would they be that overpowered? Whelp Armor and Invuln Mail, maybe. But if you have a minion with 5 attack out, then it'll only work for one turn. So change them to 4 toughness. Just throwing ideas out there, it's not like Blizzard reads these forums.

Anyways, part of the problem with the current game is that a lot of effects are incredibly situational and it's hard to get good value out of them. For example, for 5 mana, it's hard to get more than 1 card out of Gadgetzan Auctioneer.
 

Delly

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Some of those are OP because they provide board control at no expense to your own minions and some for multiple turns, which would be possible if you're ahead.

I watched Kripp play arena last night and you could tell he hadn't played in awhile. He didn't realize the meta has shifted to 2-4 drop weenie decks. He did well on one deck, but his other two arenas that I watched were mostly him getting slaughtered.
 

The Master

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i would very much suspect people are wrong on this.

That 2nd pack is almost certainly a lower gold value that is being upgraded to a card pack.
As in, sure, you COULD have gotten more gold. But the roll of the dice said you didn't, but then the second roll, now goes and determines if a value under 100 gets upgraded. so you rolled a 45 gold in that slot, but then win 9 wins, it rolls again, and upgrades it to a pack, probably.
And....? We aren't discussing the gold value of the pack. In terms ofactual goldthat you receive you get more gold at 8 wins then 9. So if all you care about is infinite arena, you should retire at 8 wins every time. That was the point of the TL thread, since it was discussing the best way to get "free" infinite arena.
 

Delly

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Just depends if you want to play arena or want to play constructed.. more arena = 8 wins, more constructed = 9 wins. Nothing really to argue about unless Blizzard changes the rewards.
 

Dandai

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At 9 wins you are guaranteed to get either 2 packs or 1 pack + 1 golden card.
I drafted a pretty hot warlock deck a few days ago that I thought would carry me to at least 7 wins based on the draft alone. I went 1-3 and was pretty fucking pissed, but the HS gods are not without mercy and I got like 15 dust but also two golden cards, one rare, and a pack. Then in the pack I had two rares and a golden epic.
 

The Master

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Was doing a Warlock daily with a Murloc deck and I was explaining what a "weenie" deck was to my girlfriend. Bunch of weak cards that add up etc. "So all the weenies add up to a dick!"
 

The Ancient_sl

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Just depends if you want to play arena or want to play constructed.. more arena = 8 wins, more constructed = 9 wins. Nothing really to argue about unless Blizzard changes the rewards.
Why would someone want to play a collectible card game and then not collect cards? Arena only? Holy crap the game isn't even remotely fun enough for that.
 

Delly

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Some people don't find constructed all that fun? Plus there are some imbalance issues and a lot of people running a few types of decks making it pretty uninteresting to play.

I still enjoy playing both, but if I see a few of the same type of deck in a short amount of time in constructed I just quit, especially that tournament Rogue deck that has been going around.
 

Fadaar

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They stopped giving them out ? They said no more till Open Beta. Are you sure you just didn't see it until now? Although prices do seem to have gone down within the last few days. I sold my key for $39.99 on Thursday instantly on Ebay, and now I have been seeing a couple for under $30. Possibly just because it's closer to Open beta though.
Nope my e-mail for it showed up Nov 25th.
 

The Ancient_sl

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Some people don't find constructed all that fun? Plus there are some imbalance issues and a lot of people running a few types of decks making it pretty uninteresting to play.

I still enjoy playing both, but if I see a few of the same type of deck in a short amount of time in constructed I just quit, especially that tournament Rogue deck that has been going around.
I think you missed my point. I understand if you think Arena is more fun, but if you aren't making an effort to collect cards why playing a deck building game?