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Palum
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I started with Toxitron (1 mana wtf) and some four mana 2/8 that gained 2 attk every time opp plays a spell just on turn 1. He plays 6/6 taunt. Turn two 7/7 drake and free starfall wipes board. He plays hero power, gets 5/1 ele which immediately dies to Toxitron. I play some dude who gives all friendly minions or dragons anyway +3 attk bit and it just went down hill fast for him.
Nef is dumb.
Nef is dumb.
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I am not as sad as the others.
The weekly thing should be fun in the big picture.
Think about it. They have to come up with, program for, design, animate, and play test two new theme-decks every week?
Could Magic even dream of such a thing? No way.
I'm not saying that Blizzard will pull this Brawl thing off. They may very well fuck it up. But I am A-Okay with free new theme deck battles every week. Their attempt is admirable, even if it fails.
I guess that makes me a fanboy or whatever. It is what it is. They are on a precipice with this idea and I hope it works out.
Caal
Lord Nagafen Raider
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Nah, the people bitching about this stuff are pretty short sighted. If Blizzard has about a gajillion cards on paper they can easily insert into this, Brawl will be absolutely amazing. At this point I'd guess the only thing keeping Brawl from being truly great is the art team trying to keep up.
Famm
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The thing is, they've said its not going to be like this adventure mode shit every week. It sounded more like alternate rulesets for the most part would be the way it worked. Which could be more fun and you can run your dailies in it using different classes, so that's a reason to play more than one. I assume they thought this rag vs. nef shit would be a more fun concept to launch it with, maybe for the super casual players it is IDK.
Morrow
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Omg my first game was as Nefarion. I'm sooo op.
Although I did just dominate my first Nefarion opponent as Rag.
Haha Open the Gates + Bloodlust. Man, Nefarion is retarded (as you've all already said). I somehow got Bloodlust 3x in a row. Was about to be 4-0 and beat my 2nd Nefarion as Rag when my opponent got a random lucky Brawl from Wild Magic. FML. Edit: It came down to the wire, but I still managed to win with 23 life left. The only challenge with this Tavern Brawl that I can see is actually beating a Nefarion. 4-0 baby. Vaelstrasz turn 2 is just retarded. 5th opponent did 49 damage to me on turn 3. Sounds fair! Edit 2: Still won. 5-0 atm, 3 games with Rag and 2 with Nef.
Tip for winning as Rag: Mulligan HARD for Son of of the Flame and Living Lava. That's your only real chance. Got a Flame Imp in your opening hand and think you have a good turn 1 play? nah, toss that shit. Don't even keep Whirling Flame (2 mana, 4/5 Windfury). Also Die Insect! Is nearly worthless with all the whelps Nefarion gets. Also, letting Arcanatron live can be your savior for a 6 damage Flamestrike.
Although I did just dominate my first Nefarion opponent as Rag.
Haha Open the Gates + Bloodlust. Man, Nefarion is retarded (as you've all already said). I somehow got Bloodlust 3x in a row. Was about to be 4-0 and beat my 2nd Nefarion as Rag when my opponent got a random lucky Brawl from Wild Magic. FML. Edit: It came down to the wire, but I still managed to win with 23 life left. The only challenge with this Tavern Brawl that I can see is actually beating a Nefarion. 4-0 baby. Vaelstrasz turn 2 is just retarded. 5th opponent did 49 damage to me on turn 3. Sounds fair! Edit 2: Still won. 5-0 atm, 3 games with Rag and 2 with Nef.
Tip for winning as Rag: Mulligan HARD for Son of of the Flame and Living Lava. That's your only real chance. Got a Flame Imp in your opening hand and think you have a good turn 1 play? nah, toss that shit. Don't even keep Whirling Flame (2 mana, 4/5 Windfury). Also Die Insect! Is nearly worthless with all the whelps Nefarion gets. Also, letting Arcanatron live can be your savior for a 6 damage Flamestrike.
Zaphid
Trakanon Raider
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Yeah, they didn't commit to any schedule, so I'm not holding my breath. It's nice and something for old players to jump into without shelling out for new cards to feel like they are on even ground, but it won't make me come back.
Morrow
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Yeah, is there any point to it past the first pack? If it were like arena and you could only get 3 losses and you get a reward for how many wins you get or something?
Rag is pretty fucked if he doesn't get the coin. Make that 6-0. But is there any point to me even being happy about being 6-0? How does the matchmaking work? Etc.? Can you just play an endless amount of games? Bummed this guy conceded so early because Nefarion is so fun to play, but I guess he was 100% definitely fucked. Rag HAS to get the coin to stand a chance. I think all 4 games I was Rag I had the coin. How exactly can my opponent deal with this so early? I did deal with a Vaelstrasz + the 4/12 guy that gives all minions +3 attack on turn 3, but I got really lucky.
Ravishing
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Apparently the Amazon coin deal is back:
Amazon.com: Hearthstone - Spend Less, Play More: Apps Games
Reddit Post:
PSA: Amazon 40% extra packs promotion is back! : hearthstone
Tutorial:
How to Purchase Hearthstone Packs at a Discount Through Amazon | Trump Fans
I already did it the 1st time around so I'm not taking advantage but figured someone might want to load up on some packs who missed out previously. For max value you need to spend like $90. You get 106 packs @ $.85 each. I coulda swore the 1st time around it was better though. Like 120 packs for $90?
Edit: Yea, just checked, the 1st time around you got 50% coins back. It's only 30% now, but still decent I guess if you need cards.
Amazon.com: Hearthstone - Spend Less, Play More: Apps Games
Reddit Post:
PSA: Amazon 40% extra packs promotion is back! : hearthstone
Tutorial:
How to Purchase Hearthstone Packs at a Discount Through Amazon | Trump Fans
I already did it the 1st time around so I'm not taking advantage but figured someone might want to load up on some packs who missed out previously. For max value you need to spend like $90. You get 106 packs @ $.85 each. I coulda swore the 1st time around it was better though. Like 120 packs for $90?
Edit: Yea, just checked, the 1st time around you got 50% coins back. It's only 30% now, but still decent I guess if you need cards.
Morrow
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I think the original deal was a misstep and will never happen again, because they were losing a ton of money. That or it was a marketing ploy by Android or whatever, and they paid the costs. Luckily because it was Christmas and the Amazon CS guy I got after trying to purchase coins in the UK and the transaction sitting there and not completing, I got like 65 packs for $0. Valuetown. Altho my girlfriend just started playing and she's obsessed, she'll probably use this deal. Thanks for the headsup.
Just lost my first game thanks to an Eye for an Eye that had my Rag ability hit my face for 8. Nearly had him too, was down to 7 life and finally stablized, and bam Rag hits him for 8 and I take 8 from Eye for an Eye. Nefarion is so much more interesting than Rag. I am tempted to just concede all Rag games at this point, even tho I'm 5-1 with him. I am having the worst luck getting Rag after Rag. I've only had Nefarion 3 times and am on my 7th Rag. High Inquisitor (summon random legendary at start of turn), keeps fucking me over. So much RNG.
Angelwatch
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I'll go on the record and say that I like Brawl as a concept. There are basically just two things people are complaining about:
1. Lack of rewards after the first pack. And it sounds like even this will go away at some point. There needs to be more incentive to play.
2. This week's Brawl is horribly unbalanced to the point of absurdity. I'm sure there was some light playtesting done (after all starting Nef with 5 mana seems a pretty deliberate design choice). But it's obvious that it's not even close to being even. But this unbalanced match will go away in a week and, hopefully, future weeks will be better tuned.
Beyond that though I'm hoping it turns into a fun and worthwhile mode.
1. Lack of rewards after the first pack. And it sounds like even this will go away at some point. There needs to be more incentive to play.
2. This week's Brawl is horribly unbalanced to the point of absurdity. I'm sure there was some light playtesting done (after all starting Nef with 5 mana seems a pretty deliberate design choice). But it's obvious that it's not even close to being even. But this unbalanced match will go away in a week and, hopefully, future weeks will be better tuned.
Beyond that though I'm hoping it turns into a fun and worthwhile mode.
Vandyn
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Deck building with specific cards/rules and specific dailies tailored for Brawl would be at least different enough and more of an incentive. It at least gives a viable third playing option other than arena/ladder.
Morrow
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Yeah that's what I'm mainly looking forward to. Getting to use all those cards I just pass right over every time I'm making a deck. The challenge there could be quite interesting, but it'll be sucky for newer players with a small collection (unless they make it so you can pick from, say, 150 set cards, regardless of your collection), but then that's too close to arena and doesn't give incentive to build a collection. The concept of tavern brawls itself is neat, but as it stands there are a lot of flaws that need to be figured out.
At least you can get gold for winning tavern brawl games, and it seems the Win 3 Games with Any Class or Win 7 games quest also works in Tavern Brawl. I guess this will slightly? help newer players gain gold. It won't help them learn the game though.
Edit: Just got x2 Sacrificial Pacts, 2 Deadly Poisons and 1 Shadowform, and I still won. I don't know how they thought this was even remotely balanced. Nefarion could start with 1 mana and it still might be imbalanced tbo. All the massive Whelps make Rag's ability almost worthless.
Angelwatch
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Yeah the Brawls where we build decks under constraints will automatically be a lot more balanced simply because both players have to conform to the same rule set. Some weeks will be more fun than others but we shouldn't have this Nef vs. Rag garbage.
Morrow
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Okay, after 15 games I'm bored now. Too horribly imbalanced, and as someone already mentioned, doing all that hard work on Rag to finally stabilize and start winning and then having it completely nullified by 1 random Wild Magic is just too annoying and lame. The novelty is gone just like that. But I guess it was to be expected. Looking forward to the deck building, and hope they keep these types of tavern brawl to an absolute minimum.
Morrow
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I give it another 4 hours before this Brawl has turned into a complete gold farm where 9 out of 10 Rags insta concede and nobody is actually playing. Already it's about 33% chance for your opponent's Rag to insta concede. That will just rise as more people see Rag insta concede and realize how imba Nefarion is (and how much more fun he is).
zzeris
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I agree. Played 5 games with Rag until I finally got a Nef game. It was so much easier and more fun. RnG totally destroyed my opponent and they tried to play a good game. I didn't earn the win at all. I'd be at the concede point now but not playing it is even better.
I think the worst offenders in Nef's decks are Atramedes and Razorgore. If Nef gets either of them and you don't have an answer, that's an auto-concede.
