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Yeah brain fart on cost. Anyway whatever, if all you can see is a "shitty silence" there's no more explaining it to you. Its far better than Arcane Golem though, that's an absurd comparison.
 

Neki

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If you think about the situations in when you play Arcane Golem, it's mostly to hit for lethal or threaten lethal next turn. Arcane golem has an upside to Huffer in that it gives you an additional threat on the board to threaten lethal for the next turn. Depends on the situation really.

Sheep is good that you can ping it off or run one of your minions into it without dying but Huffer is more problematic since you cannot ping him off or you might need to trade off a useful minion to kill him.

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of the spell and it is really good but all I am saying is both Sheep and Huffer can exist depending on your playstyle and the kind of deck you are running.
 

Famm

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Sheep only does one thing though. This card has multiple options for multiple situations so its never stuck in your hand killing tempo unless you decide you need to save it soley as a polymorph. It can race fast decks or neutralize big threats in the end game against control. Its better than silence in the latter case because it leaves a smaller body on the board if you can't remove the boar on the same turn. Its one card that can serve multiple functions and fit multiple situational playstyles in one tempo deck. Sheep can't do that, owls can't do that, frostbolts and fireballs (powerful as they are) don't really do that either since there's a cap on how big of a minion they can deal with.
 

Amzin

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The fact that Sheep vs. Boar is debatable (so far) and some people are excited while others meh seems to show it's actually a well-designed card. Wish there were more of those in this set :p
 

Column_sl

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Inspire is a pretty cool mechanic, I look forward to some of the combo decks people come up with.

Joust on the other hand is terrible. You have to load your deck with high mana cards to beat the RNG on it. Maybe someone will come up with an interesting version of Ramp druid with joust, but I doubt it.
 

ronne

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You need to win ties if you're the one casting the joust for me to even think about using it.
 

zzeris

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Poly Boar is pretty awesome. I looked at the current meta version of Tempo Mage on Tempostorm and there are over 20 creatures in that deck and many could use the one time buff. Card is super versatile, the cost is just right for competitive gaming and it will see TONS of use. One of the best cards of the set easily.
 

Famm

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Joust would be too strong if it won ties. As it stands its looking to just be a worthless mechanic, which is fine with me because fuck RNG.
 

The Ancient_sl

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Joust would be too strong if it won ties. As it stands its looking to just be a worthless mechanic, which is fine with me because fuck RNG.
I don't know, most of the cards offer about 1 stat point for winning a Joust and major lack of worth if they lose the Joust. It's not so powerful that it couldn't stand to happen more often.
 

Lleauaric

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I don't know, most of the cards offer about 1 stat point for winning a Joust and major lack of worth if they lose the Joust. It's not so powerful that it couldn't stand to happen more often.
I can see a Druid Joust deck kinda working... or a giants deck..
 

Northerner

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The only thing I like about joust is that it lets you see an opponent's card. The vast majority of the time this won't matter of course but if I could play a one drop with a chance to clarify control v patron v dragon or something, that might have value.

Doubt it though.
 

Ravishing

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Meta decks will always be the decks with the least amount of RNG.

Look at current meta decks:
Patron/Eboladin/Facehunter/Handlock/Demonlock/Zoo/Freeze Mage/Tempo Mage/Control Warrior

There is very little RNG. None of these decks even have Shredder.
The most RNG is Boom bots/Unstable Portal/Ragnaros/Brawl

Joust is neat and a select few cards might see some play, but there won't be an entire Joust deck, not even close.
 

a_skeleton_03

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A lot of these cards lately are amazing for very specific counters but absolutely worthless in any other case. They are begging for best of 3 matches with a usable sideboard like MtG. At least for tournament play.

This would go completely against their quick play mentality though. I feel like some of the debs are making these cards without remembering this factor.
 

Famm

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Meta decks will always be the decks with the least amount of RNG.

Look at current meta decks:
Patron/Eboladin/Facehunter/Handlock/Demonlock/Zoo/Freeze Mage/Tempo Mage/Control Warrior

There is very little RNG. None of these decks even have Shredder.
The most RNG is Boom bots/Unstable Portal/Ragnaros/Brawl

Joust is neat and a select few cards might see some play, but there won't be an entire Joust deck, not even close.
Lots of aggro paladins run shredders. Implosion is RNG. Also midrange hunter is strong and often does run shredders. I see what you're saying otherwise but shredder isn't the best example.
 

The Ancient_sl

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Yeah your argument kind of fails when Mages are running Unstable Portal which is about the most RNG there is. RNG can be desirable if the reward is great.
 
If you think about the situations in when you play Arcane Golem, it's mostly to hit for lethal or threaten lethal next turn. Arcane golem has an upside to Huffer in that it gives you an additional threat on the board to threaten lethal for the next turn. Depends on the situation really.

Sheep is good that you can ping it off or run one of your minions into it without dying but Huffer is more problematic since you cannot ping him off or you might need to trade off a useful minion to kill him.

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of the spell and it is really good but all I am saying is both Sheep and Huffer can exist depending on your playstyle and the kind of deck you are running.
you can ping Huffer with a Fallen Hero on board
 

Ravishing

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Yeah your argument kind of fails when Mages are running Unstable Portal which is about the most RNG there is. RNG can be desirable if the reward is great.
No it doesn't fall apart... 2 cards of 30 is still very limited. And Portal is usually combined with Wyrm or Flame Walker.
My point is you're not loading up on RNG cards in meta decks. It's usually limited to 1-2 cases max.

A full joust deck won't be a thing but again, you might see ONE card make the cut here or there.
 

The Ancient_sl

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No it doesn't fall apart... 2 cards of 30 is still very limited. And Portal is usually combined with Wyrm or Flame Walker.
My point is you're not loading up on RNG cards in meta decks. It's usually limited to 1-2 cases max.

A full joust deck won't be a thing but again, you might see ONE card make the cut here or there.
Yeah but that's because most of the Joust cards don't really benefit enough from the RNG.
 

DrLifetilt_sl

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Yeah but that's because most of the Joust cards don't really benefit enough from the RNG.
This. I don't mind RNG cards as long as they provide good value on average. Unstable Portal being a good example of a value RNG card. The problem with the joust cards is that even if you win those let's say at 60/40 the benefits aren't worthwhile to justify their use.
 

AngryGerbil

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I assembled a turn 10 Voltron on this week's Mage. This is a pretty fun Johnny deck.

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