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Alicent scene was so ass. I figured oh ya white clothing and wet, we gonna see some crotch bush and some nipnips. Nope, she had mysterious clothing under that soaked clothing that even Superman couldn't see through. Shit's more gay than David Hogg in a LA bar.
 
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episode 7 review, in spoilers. TLDR:
Yet another filler episode, 100% of the scenes are invented entirely for the show. just dragging ass at this point. Setting up the battle of the Gullet for the season finale.

again not sure why they are dragging out the bastards getting dragons or making this a big mystery, other than possibly for the shock value of the +4 dragon riders attacking the triarchy fleet during the battle of the gullet.

All this scene does is prove how retarded Rhaenyra is. Targaryans have known about there legions of bastards for centuries, they literally have a name for them, dragonseeds. It was always the plan to have bastards give it a shot at taming the dragons, because it's not that much of loss if the dragon doesn't take to them and burns them alive, rather than wasting king's guards and other knights.

idk whats this alicent scene even is?

ohh look Aemond sending king's guards to the wall. good thing they didn't name the random kings guard they invented, so that it doesn't matter when they exile them for the riot that the show invented.

oh look, the whole of the green council hasn't heard of fucking targ bastards either...again not sure why they are gunning for this angle?

and just to round out this stupid plotline, all the black council doesn't get it either...wtf are they trying to make this a mystery for. You literally have Rhaenyra's children who's dragon blood is so diluted that they have brown eyes and brown hair from fucking an upjumped guardsman made into a lord, and nobody bats an eye or thinks it's a problem when they can ride dragons but holy shit random bastards having enough dragonblood to ride dragons how could this possibly happen? They even made all the Velaryons mop heads to try and illustrate how much blood of Old Valyria still runs through their veins.

holy shit the stupid whore is the one to clue Rhaenyra in that Targaryans father bastards.. Jesus fucking christ it's about time. Again, literally targ bastards are so common they have a fucking name for them, dragonseeds. the show pointed this out a few episodes ago. damn this is some dense fucking writing.

the whole of dragonstone is littered with targ bastards, they were one of the main houses that practiced Prima Nocta. And unlike the rest of westeros, the commoners were more than willing, on the off chance that the new wife got pregnant with a dragonseed.

lemme back up a bit, the show really fucked up earlier this season when they made this huge thing about the dragons being worshipped as gods. That is 100% false. The dragons are feared, respected, maybe even revered a bit, but they are beasts, they are basically fighter jets, WMDs. Small folk daydream about what it must be like to ride on the back of a dragon, soaring in the sky and all, and having that kind of firepower at their fingertips, but they do NOT think the dragons are gods.

The Targaryans are nearly worshipped as gods. They are seen as far above normal men. They all have platinum silver hair (not blonde), they have damn near glowing purple eyes, they are immune to all disease (so Viserys contracting leprosy is retarded), and they have a bit of heat/fire resistance. They are basically Elves to these people, they are not seen as human.

Oh yeah, and they are also the only mother fuckers who can tame and ride dragons. That is why Targaryans are seen as damn near god like people.

ohhhh ok, I see. They are changing it so Rhaenyra is reluctant to call on the bastards to try and ride the dragons, and having the whore be the one to convince her. That way in a few episodes when the bastards turn traitor and abandon Rhaenyra she can totally call it, she was right all along, can't have her making any mistakes here no sir-ee.

ok finally riverlords are marching to harrenhal. Except the tully's weren't part of it. I mean I guess it doesn't really matter since they keep changing everything, but they don't march til the winter wolves arrive after the first of the riverlands armies is wiped out...I mean again doesn't really matter they keep changing everything, i'm sure no matter how many of them die, they will just magically be at full strength later in the story if the writers need them to be.

Ohh spoke too soon, this is just more time wasting, riverlords whining and shit, shitting on Daemon. maybe by season 4 they will manage to assemble. By this point in the book there has already been 2 major battles so far involving the riverlords. More whining, ok daemon executing the dude he sent to do the thing that they invented for the show so that more bullshit time wasting filler can happen yay.

nice Cryptkeeper scene, at this point though i'm not sure of the point? They've well established daemon's thoughts by now he did all this because he wanted the crown, no need to beat a dead horse here.

Aegon scene to show his progress so that when he sneaks out and escapes the castle in a few episodes it's not a wtf movement.

Corlys finally having a heart to heart with his bastard.

The two toddlers being escorted to the ship to head out, with Rhaena but she decides to fuck off on her own, looks like she might get merged with Nettles after all.

Oh look the adventures of Alicent camping in the woods? not sure wtf this is all about.

ohh look the bastard Jace freaking out about bastards trying to tame dragons. this is a 180 since of course he is the one who proposed it initially in the book.
Ahh ok he's upset about his legacy since he knows he is a bastard. I'm fine with this change actually, finally acknowledges the elephant in the room in a touching manner, he's insecure about his lineage if any random targ bastard can claim a dragon, since the majority of the targ bastards at least have the silver hair of old Valyria.

all the sneaking around and spycraft, this must be how they sneak out the dragonseeds. Yep. ok this is fine. Oh they want Hugh the Hammer to be cousin to Daemon? and its his mom who was targaryan? a whore? lol wtf. I Guess this is supposed to be Saera who fled to Essos and ran a pleasure house, she had bastards from the lords of Volantis and Lys. idk probably just making up a Targaryan here for the show. Also so I can see how they are going to have hugh switch sides. His wife flees to tumbleton to stay with family, she probably ends up getting killed in the battle of tumbleton, he blames Rhaenyra's side so he swaps to green. Ulf is just a drunk he follows suit cus why not. It was weird spending so much time with him trying to make him this honest noble blacksmith when he's just an evil cunt who craves power in the book.

And more of Alicent just camping and swimming, ok wtf.

Ok now there's supposed to be some kind of dragon priests and shit? wtf. Again this is all made up, the dragons aren't seen as gods, there are no dragon priests. the only people who interact with the dragons are the servants who feed them and the dragon riders themselves.

this whole Rhaenyra speech is ridiculous but ok, trying to make her this compassionate queen of the people and shit, lol. IDK why everyone is standing so close, fire breathing isn't single target there's going to be some AOE, spread out lol.

and yep lol, called it.

at least there is a bit of action happening this episode, still all filler but the dragon eating people is at least entertaining.

hrm this scene with Ulf on silverwing flying over king's landing is kinda lolsy. I guess using up the CGI budget but completely ruins the surprise that they have new riders for the dragons. Really fucking dumb, but ok.

I don't know what's worse, this peak autism or your shitty Deadpool takes

Surely the point of his dragon flyby on kings landing was to bait Aemond into an ambush
 

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100% of the scenes are invented entirely for the show
All fictional TV shows do this. Are you actually retarded?

It's not like it's based on a novel, it's based on a fake history book with an event summary.
 
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By this point in GOT we'd be at the battle of blackwater, along with the s1 battles they didn't have the budget to film (where Jaime gets captured, then the one where tyrion gets knocked out)

By contrast we've had one actual battle and one off screen skirmish between minor houses nobody cares about
 

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I don't know what's worse, this peak autism or your shitty Deadpool takes

Surely the point of his dragon flyby on kings landing was to bait Aemond into an ambush
oh look out a new contender for the title of bad takes. Yeah sending a drunk who's never ridden a dragon before and doesn't speak valyrian or know any of the commands on how to actually fly a dragon, lets send him out on a complicated mission to bait a dragon large enough to bite his dragon in half.

No silverwing was just flying around stretching her wings and ulf was just along for the ride, as you can clearly see as he was hanging on for dear life absolutely not in control of the dragon. Clearly Aemond saw where Silverwing was headed and turned around so what a shit fucking plan that would have been, had that actually been the plan lol.
 
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Other than the Alicent scenes, this was a pretty solid episode. Probably the second best of the season. Should set up a good finale.
 

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oh look out a new contender for the title of bad takes. Yeah sending a drunk who's never ridden a dragon before and doesn't speak valyrian or know any of the commands on how to actually fly a dragon, lets send him out on a complicated mission to bait a dragon large enough to bite his dragon in half.

No silverwing was just flying around stretching her wings and ulf was just along for the ride, as you can clearly see as he was hanging on for dear life absolutely not in control of the dragon. Clearly Aemond saw where Silverwing was headed and turned around so what a shit fucking plan that would have been, had that actually been the plan lol.

why were they waiting on the beach with their dragons then? and why did Aemond storm out the Kings Council meeting, mount Vhaegar and then pursue the new dragon only to have to steer the bloodthirsty dragon away from pursuing further?

you are turning into Bald Brah Bald Brah except with more autism

Have you never test driven a car? Where else from dragon stone was he going to fly? Across the narrow sea?

Don't you know why Aegon the Conqueror made his base at dragon stone and why the city ulf flew to is called kings landing?
 

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I enjoy the dragon parts.

The story was predictable. Of course the two men that have been shown a few times in previous episodes, were going to be the chosen ones. I was actually hoping that the guy who had wandered through the caves was going to die. I just kind of figured with him stepping into the brood clutch of eggs, that he was going to not be the one.

So this will at least get interesting with more Dragon stuff now. Its the only part of the show I enjoy, even if the show characters are /yawn.
 
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Have you never test driven a car? Where else from dragon stone was he going to fly? Across the narrow sea?

you can't be this retarded.

If you want to use your analogy, this was a toddler "test driving" a self driving car. Or you know, putting a passed out drunk on the back of a horse and telling the horse to head home.

IF it was the plan, it was a stupid plan. Since we know how retarded these writers are, I wouldn't put it past them to think this was clever. However the CGI/animators clearly were not in on this being a plan since it was filmed clearly to illustrate that he was not in control of the dragon.

Perhaps Rhaenyra told Silverwing to fly there and back, giving away all advantage and surprise of having new dragon riders, and accomplishing nothing? Sounds about right. maybe thats why you think it was the plan all along?

I enjoy the dragon parts.

The story was predictable. Of course the two men that have been shown a few times in previous episodes, were going to be the chosen ones. I was actually hoping that the guy who had wandered through the caves was going to die. I just kind of figured with him stepping into the brood clutch of eggs, that he was going to not be the one.

So this will at least get interesting with more Dragon stuff now. Its the only part of the show I enjoy, even if the show characters are /yawn.
Next episode should have some dragon vs ship combat that hopefully is better executed than GoT's "oh she forgot the iron fleet was a thing" while a dragon gets 360 no scoped lol.

with all the changes they are making to the story they are introducing a bunch of inconsistencies. In the show, She already has a 5 to 1 dragon advantage before the additional dragon riders:
Rhaenyra (Syrax)
Daemon (Caraxes)
Jacaerys (Vermax)
Joffrey (Tyraxes)
Baela (Moondancer)

This is because Halaena and Aegon are basically out of commission and cannot ride their dragons, Sunfyre is still wounded, and Daeron is in Old Town with Tessarion, leaving only Vhagar. All of Aegon's children also have dragons, little hatchlings but they don't really count and Jahaerys is also dead.

Yet Rhaenyra consistently points out that she only has her dragon, who is no match against Vhagar. So she needs more dragon riders. Now you could argue that Daemon is off sulking in harrenhal, but that still leaves her 4 full grown dragons vs 1 now that they aged up Moondancer to be damn near as large as Syrax/Caraxes, she already has enough firepower to "take the city without bloodshed" by overwhelming dragon numbers.

Also Joffrey is kind of schrodinger's cat, he was sent to the Vale as originally promised by Jace to get the vale to commit to Rhaenyra's side, which is why he hasn't been shown in any of the dragonstone scenes since way earlier he left to the Vale, but simultaneously he is NOT in the Vale, as lady Jeyne Arryn has consistently complained that she asked for a dragon to defend the vale and all she got was a couple of hatchlings (belonging to the two toddlers), and Joffrey has not appeared in any of the Vale scenes either.

But now she has an additional 3 full grown dragons (Addam on Seasmoke, Hugh on Vermithor, and Ulf on Silverwing) plus shortly nettles/Rhaena will end up on Sheepstealer, which makes it 9 to 1, which isn't even a contest regardless of Vhagar's size advantage.

even with the loss of Jacaerys and his dragon Vermax next episode, this makes it far less likely that the 2 bastards would betray her and join the green team. they must be setting up hugh's wife to get murdered as the reason he betrays
 
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why were they waiting on the beach with their dragons then? and why did Aemond storm out the Kings Council meeting, mount Vhaegar and then pursue the new dragon only to have to steer the bloodthirsty dragon away from pursuing further?

you are turning into Bald Brah Bald Brah except with more autism

Have you never test driven a car? Where else from dragon stone was he going to fly? Across the narrow sea?

Don't you know why Aegon the Conqueror made his base at dragon stone and why the city ulf flew to is called kings landing?

He mounted a dragon to defend KL from attack at first, then realized the dragon over the city was an Unclaimed dragon with a rider....Which should be impossible because there was no one in the family to do it. He chased the dragon to figure out what happened and realizes its going to Dragonstone and somehow Rhaenyra has more dragons now. The same reason why when she heard Seasmoke had a rider she stormed off to find out how.

Ulf was along for the ride 100 percent. At worst he was learning on the fly, no pun intended, and went to the only place he knows, which is like a 15 minute dragon ride away.

It wasnt a trap. Why was she waiting on the shore? So that faggot HBO show runners could end on a "cool" shot of her snarling like a bad ass girl boss staring at a "scared" Aemond.

They just suck at making the show. The idea would be now Aemond finally has a match and realizes it. He no longer controls the power. He is no longer the top force. Now they have enough to fight back against him. Hes gone on for years having Vhagar and not having to worry about anything.

Seems like they really changed story to make this some kind of lineage thing with claiming.

Alyn or addam or whichever was chosen, by his half brothers dragon. This is same as book.

Ulf claims to be a son of Baelon, meaning his grandmother is Alysanne - Silverwings last rider who is dead.

Hugh claims his mother is the sister of Viserys and Daemon, meaning she is the daughter of old Jaeharys who was Vermithors last rider. Meaning Hugh is on his Grandfathers dragon. (Technically Ulf has the same grandpa Jaeharys to claim Vermithor)

This means Hugh, Ulf, Daemon are all cousins if i have this right, and all the Dragonseeds have direct blood lines to Valyria, but more importantly to the dragons former riders. (Laenor was able to claim a dragon through his mother Rhaenys) so im not sure they thought through that the bastard of Hull only has Corlys blood, but whatever. They also tried to do a little with the dragons have personalities to their rider. Vermithor is strong and brave, so Hugh stands up to him to earn his claim. Ulf is an aloof oaf and Silverwing is just like "Hey this guys alright" and goes for a joyride. I thought they might play the angle that Silverwing thinks Ulf is a hatched baby. Seasmoke refuses to be given a rider and wants to claim his own and prove himself, like the bastard with a chip on his shoulder. But its all so poorly done.

Now it seems instead of Nettles we will get Rhaena getting on Sheepstealer, who is almsot as old as Vermithor having never had a rider and being wild and unkept, so im guessing they will just pass that off as Rhaena being a targ and finally finding a dragon she can claim since it never had a rider and wont break this new rule they hastily seemed to make.
 
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Oscar was fun, a little to much of the Lady Mormont effect. you can tell they cut out Kermit because of the name lol. and i doubt they add Elmo, so im guessing we get Oscar and Benjicot since now he will be the leader of Blackwood with Willem beheaded. I guess getting 2 out of the 3 lads is ok, they better let us enjoy their war effort. They are seriously the only good parts of the riverlands wars.
 

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I like your take on the legacy/lineage thing.

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predictions for next weeks season Finale:

The ship with Rhaenyra's two youngest children set sail for Pentos from the Vale. few shots of Rhaena attempting to lure sheepstealer using some sheep. eventually we get a jurrasic park style scene where she ties a sheep to a stake to get the dragon to land and eat it, while she lays in wait on some rocks nearby, so she can jump on it's back while its distracted, and she finally claims a dragon.

Scenes of the Triarchy fleet setting sail and a naval battle starts vs the Velaryon fleet, ending the blockade. Velaryon fleet is getting pummeled and is burning.

some scenes of pirates landing on driftmark. Not sure if they ramp up the violence to make us more sympathetic to team Black or if they downplay it so as not to show the mostly black peoples of driftmark getting their absolute shit pushed in. Spicetown burned to the ground, half the population of the island being merc'd, hightide castle being sieged and all the wealth of house Velaryon being destroyed...

Jace, now overly concerned about his place and lineage with all these other bastards now riding dragons, rushes off to defend "his grandfathers" island, alone, with some heroic dragon vs ship battle, but in his haste to prove himself he forgot ships all have scorpions.

Some close shots and narrow misses when finally, from the sky the rest of the new dragons come to the rescue, setting the enemy ships ablaze, starting to turn the tide. a lucky shot see's jace's dragon crash into the sea, entangled in a burning ship that is also going down, the dragon is trapped in the sails and netting and drowns, along with the rider also caught in the nets.

idk if they magically transport the Vale>Pentos ship (the Gay Abandon) to somehow being in the gullet for this fight, the writers don't own a map...or maybe, a group of pirate ships see this battle going wrong and quickly flee out to sea, where they run across this merchant ship and siege it. Rhaena, flying from the vale to join her family on dragonstone see's this happening and attacks the pirate ships with her new dragon, the pirates flee, but in the confusion the toddlers are seperated and Viserys is kidnapped and taken by a pirate who had boarded the Gay Abandon while Aegon is rescued by Rhaena.

We break from this battle to finally catching us up to what Criston Cole is up to, marching on Harrenhal. Now knowing that Rhaenyra has a bunch of dragons and is capable of attacking King's landing, Aemond and Vhagar decide that this is the perfect time to abandon the city and go help Cole take Harrenhal, leaving the city defenseless.

After this battle and enraged at the loss of (2) of her sons, Rhaenyra flies to King's landing, with her entourage of dragons and takes the city without a fight. Alicent is still out camping in the woods, Aemond and Vhagar are gone to harrenhal, but she discovers that Aegon is no where to be found. Last shot is her finally sitting on the iron throne, cutting herself in the process, wrapping her hand in a bandage much like her father (he ended losing his fingers from the infection) *foreshadowing*.
 
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you can't be this retarded.

I am going to reply in the style of Chris Chris latest LARP to show how utterly stupid said LARP is.

Oh yes ok, you're right. I have reviewed the comprehensive footage via the legitimate platform known as youtube.com and decided that the other dragons were just there to lend moral support to the other dragon as they took an inexperienced rider out to sea. You have convinced me that it must be a coincidence that a) Aemond followed in hot pursuit b) there were two other dragons and riders on the shoreline ready to take off c) Aemond recognised the threat and turned around.

Yes, being an expert in translating the howling cries of the dragons (they were based on canine communications) I recognise their shrieks as "we are thirsty" and they were just on the beach to get a drink. Even the literal embodiment of the 14 flames of old Valyria get hot and must cool down in sea water. They're like snakes don't you know with no way to regulate their own internal body temp.

Thank you for being such a persuasive autist who is highly knowledgeable about all things book related. It makes sense that you're equally competent in your knowledge of the show and possess high ability to analyse each scene of such a faithful adapatation

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Hello Sylas Sylas I am sure you will join me in condemning this fake mainstream media narrative that Team Black were "hoping to lure Aemond and Vhaegar into a situation where they'd be heavily outnumbered"



What's the world coming to when you can no longer trust Youtube as a source of legitimate, honest analysis?
 
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Npcs died taming dragons. Shockingly it was not diversity that won the sniffing contests this time. Red shirts for next episode? Also king bacon skin recovery +5. And girl baws on da shore. Snorefest. When are we going to see some more deaths that matters?
 

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you can't be this retarded.

If you want to use your analogy, this was a toddler "test driving" a self driving car. Or you know, putting a passed out drunk on the back of a horse and telling the horse to head home.

IF it was the plan, it was a stupid plan. Since we know how retarded these writers are, I wouldn't put it past them to think this was clever. However the CGI/animators clearly were not in on this being a plan since it was filmed clearly to illustrate that he was not in control of the dragon.

Perhaps Rhaenyra told Silverwing to fly there and back, giving away all advantage and surprise of having new dragon riders, and accomplishing nothing? Sounds about right. maybe thats why you think it was the plan all along?


Next episode should have some dragon vs ship combat that hopefully is better executed than GoT's "oh she forgot the iron fleet was a thing" while a dragon gets 360 no scoped lol.

with all the changes they are making to the story they are introducing a bunch of inconsistencies. In the show, She already has a 5 to 1 dragon advantage before the additional dragon riders:
Rhaenyra (Syrax)
Daemon (Caraxes)
Jacaerys (Vermax)
Joffrey (Tyraxes)
Baela (Moondancer)

This is because Halaena and Aegon are basically out of commission and cannot ride their dragons, Sunfyre is still wounded, and Daeron is in Old Town with Tessarion, leaving only Vhagar. All of Aegon's children also have dragons, little hatchlings but they don't really count and Jahaerys is also dead.

Yet Rhaenyra consistently points out that she only has her dragon, who is no match against Vhagar. So she needs more dragon riders. Now you could argue that Daemon is off sulking in harrenhal, but that still leaves her 4 full grown dragons vs 1 now that they aged up Moondancer to be damn near as large as Syrax/Caraxes, she already has enough firepower to "take the city without bloodshed" by overwhelming dragon numbers.

Also Joffrey is kind of schrodinger's cat, he was sent to the Vale as originally promised by Jace to get the vale to commit to Rhaenyra's side, which is why he hasn't been shown in any of the dragonstone scenes since way earlier he left to the Vale, but simultaneously he is NOT in the Vale, as lady Jeyne Arryn has consistently complained that she asked for a dragon to defend the vale and all she got was a couple of hatchlings (belonging to the two toddlers), and Joffrey has not appeared in any of the Vale scenes either.

But now she has an additional 3 full grown dragons (Addam on Seasmoke, Hugh on Vermithor, and Ulf on Silverwing) plus shortly nettles/Rhaena will end up on Sheepstealer, which makes it 9 to 1, which isn't even a contest regardless of Vhagar's size advantage.

even with the loss of Jacaerys and his dragon Vermax next episode, this makes it far less likely that the 2 bastards would betray her and join the green team. they must be setting up hugh's wife to get murdered as the reason he betrays
The dragons are too small.

She has two ~40 year old dragons and three ~20 year old dragons.

The finale of season one was the ~200 year old dragon eating a ~20 year old dragon. A few episodes ago the ~200 year old dragon killed a 60 year old and a 20 year old similtaneously.

So now she has another ~40 year old and a ~100 year old. Sheepstealer is another ~100 year old.

Age isn't exactly linear with size as we saw in GoT, but it's a rough guide of who can take on who. Vhagar seems unstoppable, but maybe a couple of mid size ones can take it on in their mind.