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That's not an issue for me. I just want some good storytelling and a few great battles like GOT. Ultimately, this is how it ends.
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Chris
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You need to prune your complaints.
Like the grandson thing, he calls Aegon grandson too so the writers know, it's just shortened for more natural speech. I can imagine someone doing this.
Some of it appears to be complaining about events being slightly out of order. Like Otto being sacked earlier... who gives a shit about a few paragraphs in Fire and Blood being tweaked?
A lot of it you are right about though.
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It's hard to compare it to GoT. The cast in that was enormous. And it had some of the finest actors ever in a fantasy show. A lot of the older crew were well established. And they struck gold with joffrey and kit harrington. I couldn't stand the queen of dragons but I think they cast her more for her tits than her acting abilities. At least she looked great naked.
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What a stupid fucking episode.
first half of the episode is just catching us up to the book, ie Daemon taking harrenhal, the river lords declaring for this side and that and started killing each other, etc. All this happened before Aemond and Vhagar ate Luke and his dragon at the end of Season 1. Of course it wasn't written quite so retarded as these show writers did it (Daemon, the "king," husband of Rhaenyra single handedly stalks through harrenhal waylaying random guards to take the castle? sneaking around like he's playing skyrim? the fuck was that lol)
like usual almost every single scene, character, motivation, reason, rationale, and action has been changed from the book or invented whole cloth by demonstrably bad writers. Much like GoT in the latter seasons It's getting harder and harder to compare this show to the book its allegedly based on since what does appear is changed completely and so much of it is straight up invented.
Rhaenyra playing mother of the year here sending away all her children and niece to watch over them (she does send her last 2 sons away, much later, Aegon and Viserys, her children she had with daemon, but only after all the rest die, she sends them with no protection and they are attacked/captured).
Daemon's daughters getting more screen time this episode then they do the entire book btw (they basically are afterthoughts, hardly mentioned. one spends the war in the vale chasing boys, and the other chills in pentos.)
idk why they keep doing Sir Criston Cole dirty as fuck, or what they are doing to Aemond one-eye. I guess too many viewers were becoming his fan since he's one of the only decent characters on the show so gotta nip that in the bud.
wtf is this Rhaenyra sneaking into King's landing to have a heart to heart with Alicent? god this writing is so bad, this is a ripple effect of earlier bad writing. By writing the murder of Jahaerys so poorly where these 2 chucklefucks can just wander around the castle unquestioned and murder the heir to the throne, it leaves room that anyone can just sneak in without consequence so of course Rhaenyra can just sneak up on and murder alicent if she wanted to.
What actually happened:
Daemon utilizes his underworld knowledge of king's landing to exploit a singular weakness (ratcatchers know the ways through the hidden tunnels inside the red keep), into the Tower of the Hand, where Otto high Tower and his daughter the Queen Dowager reside. The king and his family all reside in Maegor's holdfast of which no one knows the secret tunnels. They exploit this knowledge to sneak into alicent's room, kill her handmaiden and tie her up, waiting for the Queen Haelena to bring her children to say good night to their grand mother. There they force her to choose one of her children to die and they murder the other one instead to twist the knife of her choice.
Aegon catches the murderer trying to escape, and then executes all the rat catcher's with knowledge of the red keep, ending this vulnerability. From this moment on they employ cat's to take care of the rat problem. And now "sneaking into the castle to do ____" is no longer an option, not that anyone is trying to talk at this point.
instead we get a show without any internal consistency that follows the logic of a goddamn sitcom, so the two girlbosses can wax poetic about some dumbshit that never fucking happened. So by this show's reasoning since the premise was so weak they had to do a GoT tie in with the story about "the prince who was promised," from a song of ice and fire, now Rhaenyra knows the Aegon II was named the prince and thus her claim to the throne is invalid, by her own reasoning. If this show had any consistency it would end right now, Rhaenyra would relinquish her claim and the war would end. but nope, she's still pushing for alicent to concede.
Keep in mind the book they are "adapting" was written by the couple who run the asoiaf wiki and rubber stamped by GRRM for a paycheck (GRRM himself only wrote 1 small section, which detailed Rhaenyra's death, in a collection of short stories about hubris and dangerous women) and the rest was written by the people who police the wiki. That's who these writers are competing against and failing miserably to. A fucking fan site.
Some of you are hatewatching Acolyte and others are hatewatching the latest season of the Boys. Me, I pretty much just hatewatch this show now, its my burden to bear.
first half of the episode is just catching us up to the book, ie Daemon taking harrenhal, the river lords declaring for this side and that and started killing each other, etc. All this happened before Aemond and Vhagar ate Luke and his dragon at the end of Season 1. Of course it wasn't written quite so retarded as these show writers did it (Daemon, the "king," husband of Rhaenyra single handedly stalks through harrenhal waylaying random guards to take the castle? sneaking around like he's playing skyrim? the fuck was that lol)
like usual almost every single scene, character, motivation, reason, rationale, and action has been changed from the book or invented whole cloth by demonstrably bad writers. Much like GoT in the latter seasons It's getting harder and harder to compare this show to the book its allegedly based on since what does appear is changed completely and so much of it is straight up invented.
Rhaenyra playing mother of the year here sending away all her children and niece to watch over them (she does send her last 2 sons away, much later, Aegon and Viserys, her children she had with daemon, but only after all the rest die, she sends them with no protection and they are attacked/captured).
Daemon's daughters getting more screen time this episode then they do the entire book btw (they basically are afterthoughts, hardly mentioned. one spends the war in the vale chasing boys, and the other chills in pentos.)
idk why they keep doing Sir Criston Cole dirty as fuck, or what they are doing to Aemond one-eye. I guess too many viewers were becoming his fan since he's one of the only decent characters on the show so gotta nip that in the bud.
wtf is this Rhaenyra sneaking into King's landing to have a heart to heart with Alicent? god this writing is so bad, this is a ripple effect of earlier bad writing. By writing the murder of Jahaerys so poorly where these 2 chucklefucks can just wander around the castle unquestioned and murder the heir to the throne, it leaves room that anyone can just sneak in without consequence so of course Rhaenyra can just sneak up on and murder alicent if she wanted to.
What actually happened:
Daemon utilizes his underworld knowledge of king's landing to exploit a singular weakness (ratcatchers know the ways through the hidden tunnels inside the red keep), into the Tower of the Hand, where Otto high Tower and his daughter the Queen Dowager reside. The king and his family all reside in Maegor's holdfast of which no one knows the secret tunnels. They exploit this knowledge to sneak into alicent's room, kill her handmaiden and tie her up, waiting for the Queen Haelena to bring her children to say good night to their grand mother. There they force her to choose one of her children to die and they murder the other one instead to twist the knife of her choice.
Aegon catches the murderer trying to escape, and then executes all the rat catcher's with knowledge of the red keep, ending this vulnerability. From this moment on they employ cat's to take care of the rat problem. And now "sneaking into the castle to do ____" is no longer an option, not that anyone is trying to talk at this point.
instead we get a show without any internal consistency that follows the logic of a goddamn sitcom, so the two girlbosses can wax poetic about some dumbshit that never fucking happened. So by this show's reasoning since the premise was so weak they had to do a GoT tie in with the story about "the prince who was promised," from a song of ice and fire, now Rhaenyra knows the Aegon II was named the prince and thus her claim to the throne is invalid, by her own reasoning. If this show had any consistency it would end right now, Rhaenyra would relinquish her claim and the war would end. but nope, she's still pushing for alicent to concede.
Keep in mind the book they are "adapting" was written by the couple who run the asoiaf wiki and rubber stamped by GRRM for a paycheck (GRRM himself only wrote 1 small section, which detailed Rhaenyra's death, in a collection of short stories about hubris and dangerous women) and the rest was written by the people who police the wiki. That's who these writers are competing against and failing miserably to. A fucking fan site.
Some of you are hatewatching Acolyte and others are hatewatching the latest season of the Boys. Me, I pretty much just hatewatch this show now, its my burden to bear.
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This is the only book I did not read. Rhaenyra sucks, she can't make a decision to save her life. Show is kind of ass. Dragging and dragging
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No you autistic degenerate, the point is Alicent misunderstood the ramblings of a dying man. He recited the passed down prince who was promised prophecy that started with Aegon the Conqueror, and thought he was referring to her son as choice for the throne
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is the show trying to course correct by making Rhaenyra inept and stupid or are they trying to contrast her timid and calculated approach to aegons LET'S FUCKING GO!!! strategy?
why after almost 2 seasons of cole having fag hair they decide to cut it?
are they trying to do some jaime impression?
why are they spending half an episode w/ these brothel scenes
what are they doing w/ 1 eye?
why bring back downs girl in flashback does daemon really only thirst for a younger version?
why after almost 2 seasons of cole having fag hair they decide to cut it?
are they trying to do some jaime impression?
why are they spending half an episode w/ these brothel scenes
what are they doing w/ 1 eye?
why bring back downs girl in flashback does daemon really only thirst for a younger version?
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I thought it was ok until the end, its a lot of character and world building that should have some payoff later down the season.
but holy fuck that ending was dumb as shit. It was built for the audience not the characters. No one in the history of the universe has ever heard "oh, that thing you thought meant you [your son] should rule? Nah dawg, thats from a fairy tale, so go do the right thing and give up power mmmk?" and listened. Jesus Christ that was idiotic.
followed only by an even more idiotic decision, "aite well nice chatting with you, you should go now before i tell my guards to come back and capture you and end this civil war and show after just 3 episodes. Man, you seem completely unprepared with an exit strategy, you sure seem like a dumbfuck queen who can't plan her way out of a paper bag. At least you're not fat!!!"
Its hard to give a single fuck about your characters if they all act like retards
show continuing the new woke 2024 idea, "we can't be accused of sexism if we show lots of dong"
(at least) one big dumbfuck character dying next episode so have that to look forward to at least
but holy fuck that ending was dumb as shit. It was built for the audience not the characters. No one in the history of the universe has ever heard "oh, that thing you thought meant you [your son] should rule? Nah dawg, thats from a fairy tale, so go do the right thing and give up power mmmk?" and listened. Jesus Christ that was idiotic.
followed only by an even more idiotic decision, "aite well nice chatting with you, you should go now before i tell my guards to come back and capture you and end this civil war and show after just 3 episodes. Man, you seem completely unprepared with an exit strategy, you sure seem like a dumbfuck queen who can't plan her way out of a paper bag. At least you're not fat!!!"
Its hard to give a single fuck about your characters if they all act like retards
show continuing the new woke 2024 idea, "we can't be accused of sexism if we show lots of dong"
(at least) one big dumbfuck character dying next episode so have that to look forward to at least
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Chris
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It's not even a proper book, it's a few pages in a fake history book.
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Mahes
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I enjoy the scenes with the dragons. Otherwise the show is a lot of hit and miss.
The scene that surprised me a bit was the scene that outright showed the woman sucking cock. Usually the angle is set in such a way that it is implied, with the woman's head hiding the cock. So that is another level up towards outright porn.
Of course after watching The Boys, I guess nothing really should surprise me anymore...
The scene that surprised me a bit was the scene that outright showed the woman sucking cock. Usually the angle is set in such a way that it is implied, with the woman's head hiding the cock. So that is another level up towards outright porn.
Of course after watching The Boys, I guess nothing really should surprise me anymore...
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Chris
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The entire point of the scene is that it's too late to stop the war, there are now multiple heirs on both sides so killing her isn't quite as civil war ending as you claim.
Yeah stupid dithering bitch is dead, now action man Daemon is in charge? Great!?
The other point is that Rhaenyra's resolve has been shaken by the child slaying, but now she knows that she's in the right and has no moral imperative to stop the war as it can't be stopped.
It's a cool scene, does it makes loads of sense? Maybe not? It doesn't break the show. These are imbred nobels making poor decisions for our entertainment.
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The problem with the writers of this show is that they live in some weird bizzaro fantasy world where every day is opposite day.
In this delusional fantasy world:
1. Game of Thrones ended on a high note, with just a massive groundswell of love and support from fans from across the world.
2. Each season of Game of Thrones was more loved and revered than the previous season, and that was attributed primarily to the writers shitting all over the source material and inventing their own shit, writing their own stories.
3. In fact, the show became the best version of itself when they completely passed the books and had no source material to borrow from. That's when the story, dialogue, and overall plot really took off. It rocketed the original show runners into the stratosphere where they were given their own star wars, star trek, transformers, and GI Joe trilogies along with their pick of whatever properties they choose in the marvel cinematic universe.
4. The universal, worldwide praise for the ending of Game of Thrones led to it spearheading a global brand with half a dozen spin-offs all actively in work and being pursued. HBO is just backing up dump trucks full of money to anyone and everyone with even half an idea for a story to tell in this universe and these are being greenlit non-stop.
5. Fans cannot get enough of this content and HotD is even more popular than GoT. hundreds/thousands of articles are released every sunday covering every detail, the buzz surrounding this show is so deafening that rival networks are actually cancelling and rescheduling their own releases to not get overshadowed by HotD. The watercooler talk about this show is unprecedented, they had to reschedule the NFL season around HotD.
Unfortunately for these delusional writers, in the real world none of those things are true. They were at one point but the catastrophe of the final 2 seasons of GoT nipped all of that in the bud and ended multiple careers and canx'd half a dozen spin offs. The brand was nearly murdered and is limping along now on life support.
These show runners were given a very tight leash to tell a very simple story which is already streamlined down into bullet point format for ease of conversion. They didn't want to take any chances with writers going off inserting their own shit while waiting on GRRM to finish so they picked an already completed story which is only about 50-60 pages long. The whole of this show could literally be storyboarded and then written by a 9th grade english lit class from any non-wakandan high school in America. the writing was not supposed to be the challenge here. Instead we got diversity hire's not knowing what they ate for breakfast stumbling over basic concepts like causality and temporance.
They wasted the entire first season doing 4-5 time jumps preventing the audience from identifying with any character or giving a shit about any actor since they did 2 major and 5 minor cast changes to cover 20+ years of time in 10 episodes. The only character anyone spent any time with or gave a shit about was Viserys the crypt keeper whose death is what starts the show, the only other character you spend enough time with to even learn his name is his brother who is the biggest piece of shit in targaryan history.
In the first 3 episodes of season 2 absolutely nothing has happened. About 6 hours have passed since the end of season 1. 50% of episode 1, 99.99% of episode 2, and 90% of episode 3 were all bullshit made up filler where nothing happened. All the real events of episode 3 actually happened in episode 10 of season 1. The show's timeline has not progressed beyond the end of season 1, the death of Jahaerys by blood and cheese takes place like a week after Luke and his dragon are killed by Aemond.
So while they zipped through time in season 1 to get to the part where the show actually starts they are just stalling now in season 2 inserting filler to drag this shit out 10 seasons? They definitely fucked up on a bunch of the ages of the characters but are we going to have to wait til these toddler actors grow up in RL to get the story moving?
The truth is this (book) story is actually pretty decent and deserves a chance to be told in television format, but at the rate these guys are going this show is going to get cancelled before they are even 1/3 of the way done telling it.
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TLDR: This show is just not that popular, it runs the very real risk of getting cancelled. There's like 6 people who even bother to comment in this thread and 4 of them hate the show. The ending of GoT burned a lot of fucking bridges among the fanbase and these writers are on a short fucking leash. They were given a ready-made story already in outline form that's short enough to read in an hour or two. They have no excuse for changing shit and they certainly haven't earned any good will to vindicate their decision to shit all over the source material. Theres a couple of faggot retards in this thread "defending" these choices either because they are retarded (like Chris) or because they didn't pay attention the last time these writers decided to go off and do their own thing and destroy what was at the time the most watched, most successful TV franchise in history.
In this delusional fantasy world:
1. Game of Thrones ended on a high note, with just a massive groundswell of love and support from fans from across the world.
2. Each season of Game of Thrones was more loved and revered than the previous season, and that was attributed primarily to the writers shitting all over the source material and inventing their own shit, writing their own stories.
3. In fact, the show became the best version of itself when they completely passed the books and had no source material to borrow from. That's when the story, dialogue, and overall plot really took off. It rocketed the original show runners into the stratosphere where they were given their own star wars, star trek, transformers, and GI Joe trilogies along with their pick of whatever properties they choose in the marvel cinematic universe.
4. The universal, worldwide praise for the ending of Game of Thrones led to it spearheading a global brand with half a dozen spin-offs all actively in work and being pursued. HBO is just backing up dump trucks full of money to anyone and everyone with even half an idea for a story to tell in this universe and these are being greenlit non-stop.
5. Fans cannot get enough of this content and HotD is even more popular than GoT. hundreds/thousands of articles are released every sunday covering every detail, the buzz surrounding this show is so deafening that rival networks are actually cancelling and rescheduling their own releases to not get overshadowed by HotD. The watercooler talk about this show is unprecedented, they had to reschedule the NFL season around HotD.
Unfortunately for these delusional writers, in the real world none of those things are true. They were at one point but the catastrophe of the final 2 seasons of GoT nipped all of that in the bud and ended multiple careers and canx'd half a dozen spin offs. The brand was nearly murdered and is limping along now on life support.
These show runners were given a very tight leash to tell a very simple story which is already streamlined down into bullet point format for ease of conversion. They didn't want to take any chances with writers going off inserting their own shit while waiting on GRRM to finish so they picked an already completed story which is only about 50-60 pages long. The whole of this show could literally be storyboarded and then written by a 9th grade english lit class from any non-wakandan high school in America. the writing was not supposed to be the challenge here. Instead we got diversity hire's not knowing what they ate for breakfast stumbling over basic concepts like causality and temporance.
They wasted the entire first season doing 4-5 time jumps preventing the audience from identifying with any character or giving a shit about any actor since they did 2 major and 5 minor cast changes to cover 20+ years of time in 10 episodes. The only character anyone spent any time with or gave a shit about was Viserys the crypt keeper whose death is what starts the show, the only other character you spend enough time with to even learn his name is his brother who is the biggest piece of shit in targaryan history.
In the first 3 episodes of season 2 absolutely nothing has happened. About 6 hours have passed since the end of season 1. 50% of episode 1, 99.99% of episode 2, and 90% of episode 3 were all bullshit made up filler where nothing happened. All the real events of episode 3 actually happened in episode 10 of season 1. The show's timeline has not progressed beyond the end of season 1, the death of Jahaerys by blood and cheese takes place like a week after Luke and his dragon are killed by Aemond.
So while they zipped through time in season 1 to get to the part where the show actually starts they are just stalling now in season 2 inserting filler to drag this shit out 10 seasons? They definitely fucked up on a bunch of the ages of the characters but are we going to have to wait til these toddler actors grow up in RL to get the story moving?
The truth is this (book) story is actually pretty decent and deserves a chance to be told in television format, but at the rate these guys are going this show is going to get cancelled before they are even 1/3 of the way done telling it.
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TLDR: This show is just not that popular, it runs the very real risk of getting cancelled. There's like 6 people who even bother to comment in this thread and 4 of them hate the show. The ending of GoT burned a lot of fucking bridges among the fanbase and these writers are on a short fucking leash. They were given a ready-made story already in outline form that's short enough to read in an hour or two. They have no excuse for changing shit and they certainly haven't earned any good will to vindicate their decision to shit all over the source material. Theres a couple of faggot retards in this thread "defending" these choices either because they are retarded (like Chris) or because they didn't pay attention the last time these writers decided to go off and do their own thing and destroy what was at the time the most watched, most successful TV franchise in history.
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Bald Brah
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You have a talent for writing but your critique can use some work. Writing is just one aspect of the show and yes GoT fell off at the end and made some dumb decisions with Jon Snow vs Arya at the end but no one was skipping it.
Acting, cinematography, special effects are all top notch. What would you rather us watch? This is us? Bridgerton?
I'll keep watching Game of Thrones thanks. And hopefully a lot of other people do to so they keep making more.
Do you work for Amazon Prime or something?
Viewership numbers for those "awful" seasons by the way.
Per HBO, here’s each season’s average for “Game of Thrones” entire run: Season 1 – 9.3 million, Season 2 – 11.6 million, Season 3 – 14.4 million, Season 4 – 19.1 million, Season 5 – 20.2 million, Season 6 – 25.7 million, Season 7- 32.8 million, and Season 8 – 46 million. Those numbers are a combination of viewership across linear, on-demand, the now-sunset HBO Go and HBO Now, and other OTT platforms.
Acting, cinematography, special effects are all top notch. What would you rather us watch? This is us? Bridgerton?
I'll keep watching Game of Thrones thanks. And hopefully a lot of other people do to so they keep making more.
Do you work for Amazon Prime or something?
Viewership numbers for those "awful" seasons by the way.
Per HBO, here’s each season’s average for “Game of Thrones” entire run: Season 1 – 9.3 million, Season 2 – 11.6 million, Season 3 – 14.4 million, Season 4 – 19.1 million, Season 5 – 20.2 million, Season 6 – 25.7 million, Season 7- 32.8 million, and Season 8 – 46 million. Those numbers are a combination of viewership across linear, on-demand, the now-sunset HBO Go and HBO Now, and other OTT platforms.
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You have truly cemented your status as one of the boards biggest idiots in record time, kudos.
That top notch "cinematography" that frequently had people complaining the scenes were too dark Here's Why Game of Thrones Was So Dark, And How to Fix It - IGN
Viewership numbers have no reflection on quality. It grew via word of mouth following The Red Wedding then exploded. People watching to see how the story ends does not mean that the concluding season weren't awful.