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TomServo

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What were they trying to do exactly?
Connect to redshift in prod to pull customer data to send to a marketing firm through a private link into a shared vpc connected to numerous other vendors using static user name password and no assume role
 

Kuro

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First IT job? Corel software? Did you post this in 1998, and the post finally got through?
Heh. First place I got in at makes signs for businesses. IT is handling ~100 users, ~15 remote users, mostly just microsoft suite stuff plus the various graphic design products, but they have a bespoke old VBscript "command center" that runs on top of the sql database and is uncommented crap written by a now dead person. It has random weird errors or all the time, and the head of IT spent like 80 hours last month trying to figure out what madness was keeping the monthly reports failing since we added a new sales person (Turned out it had been many years since any new sales people joined, the table generated for the report was hard coded to be the people who were employed and in the sales system in 2015, so the SQL was all fine and tracking his data correctly, but the script on top of it struck itself in confusion upon seeing an 11th salesperson)
 
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TJT

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Connect to redshift in prod to pull customer data to send to a marketing firm through a private link into a shared vpc connected to numerous other vendors using static user name password and no assume role
Nice. I hope these people will be fired for this?
 
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TJT

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Heh. First place I got in at makes signs for businesses. IT is handling ~100 users, ~15 remote users, mostly just microsoft suite stuff plus the various graphic design products, but they have a bespoke old VBscript "command center" that runs on top of the sql database and is uncommented crap written by a now dead person. It has random weird errors or all the time, and the head of IT spent like 80 hours last month trying to figure out what madness was keeping the monthly reports failing since we added a new sales person (Turned out it had been many years since any new sales people joined, the table generated for the report was hard coded to be the people who were employed and in the sales system in 2015, so the SQL was all fine and tracking his data correctly, but the script on top of it struck itself in confusion upon seeing an 11th salesperson)
I do love some shadow IT archaeology now and again. It would probably be easier to make an entirely new solution than deal with some nonsense like that.
 
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I do love some shadow IT archeology now and again. It would probably be easier to make an entirely new solution than deal with some nonsense like that.
IT archaeology has some interesting stories, interweb is full of them. A company I worked for had an old guy in the corner with a Sparcstation and a Sun server. No one knew what he did or what the Suns were for. I guessed he was being kept on because he was close to retirement. He retired, and the computers were a mystery. Obviously not doing anything otherwise someone would have been trained on his job. His computers were shut off to exactly 0 effect.

I started a company with two other guys. I wrote a specific use bit of software. Keep in mind that I am not a coder by trade; I picked it up along the way. The code was fully commented and its functions documented. I leased it back to the company. The company was sold and with it, my software lease carried on. I got checks for that software for a long time....up until a few years ago when it must have been deprecated. I still have no idea why they didn't rewrite the thing from the get go. That company got purchased by another company, but my software remained. Thus the IT Archaeology bit of the conversation.

The amount of iWaste at huge companies must be staggering if things like this can slip through without being questioned.
 

Palum

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My sweet boy.

You will learn that nearly all enterprise software is complete trash and you have no idea why anyone pays for it. The moment you think something is the worst you find the next thing and it's worse.

Current problem I am facing has to do with Zendesk. The industry leader in IT ticketing software. It has had a foundational design flaw since 2008 that has caused them to hemorrhage major customers for years. They don't do anything about it because they were first to market and that holds a staggering amount of weight.

The flaw? After 30 days or some shit tickets become locked. Not by you, but my Zendesk the platform and can never, ever, be edited in any way again.
Lmao I've had to use AHK to run SQL injection attacks against our own software for dumb shit like this.
 

Noodleface

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IT archaeology has some interesting stories, interweb is full of them. A company I worked for had an old guy in the corner with a Sparcstation and a Sun server. No one knew what he did or what the Suns were for. I guessed he was being kept on because he was close to retirement. He retired, and the computers were a mystery. Obviously not doing anything otherwise someone would have been trained on his job. His computers were shut off to exactly 0 effect.

I started a company with two other guys. I wrote a specific use bit of software. Keep in mind that I am not a coder by trade; I picked it up along the way. The code was fully commented and its functions documented. I leased it back to the company. The company was sold and with it, my software lease carried on. I got checks for that software for a long time....up until a few years ago when it must have been deprecated. I still have no idea why they didn't rewrite the thing from the get go. That company got purchased by another company, but my software remained. Thus the IT Archaeology bit of the conversation.

The amount of iWaste at huge companies must be staggering if things like this can slip through without being questioned.
I think I worked with this dude. He had sun servers in our lab and no one had ANY idea what he did, but he was always doing SOMETHING on them. He got laid off, they got shut down and removed and nothing happened.

He was a weird dude too, always wore two different colored shoes of the same type of shoe. I've never met anyone like him. No idea what his job actually was
 

TJT

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The highest paid tech worker I knew at General Motors was an old dude they kept around for no other reason than he knew how to use this particular software. A now defunct piece of mainframe software that GM's mainframes put into place in the 80s. By sheer happenstance when this guy started his career in the 80s the office he happened to work in used it. The software itself was called NarrowCast or something.

It's important to understand that the late 70s and early 80s mainframes running GM's auto plants are all custom jobs built by IBM. They all have variants of the same custom operating system that is unique to these mainframes. Not some linux distro we all know and love but some complete bullshit that only exists on physical documentation GM has down in their archives. There is no other way to learn the various commands, features, ins and outs of these systems as they are proprietary to the company. For whatever reason the Boomer developers of the time developed a bunch of control mechanisms that used NarrowCast.

This old guy is probably still getting north of $300k+ a year to sit on his ass and do nothing except when they need someone to fix those old mainframes.
 
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TomServo

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The highest paid tech worker I knew at General Motors was an old dude they kept around for no other reason than he knew how to use this particular software. A now defunct piece of mainframe software that GM's mainframes put into place in the 80s. By sheer happenstance when this guy started his career in the 80s the office he happened to work in used it. The software itself was called NarrowCast or something.

It's important to understand that the late 70s and early 80s mainframes running GM's auto plants are all custom jobs built by IBM. They all have variants of the same custom operating system that is unique to these mainframes. Not some linux distro we all know and love but some complete bullshit that only exists on physical documentation GM has down in their archives. There is no other way to learn the various commands, features, ins and outs of these systems as they are proprietary to the company. For whatever reason the Boomer developers of the time developed a bunch of control mechanisms that used NarrowCast.

This old guy is probably still getting north of $300k+ a year to sit on his ass and do nothing except when they need someone to fix those old mainframes.
and he is worth it. funny how that works? it isnt the literally hours sitting bullshitting on a smoke break but what fucking value you provide.
 
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