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Brahma said:
The people.

Money isn't really that big of deal to me (as long as the loved ones are comfortable), and the benefits are about even.

I have never in my 40 years of working been at a place where damn near everyone I work with, I would gladly have a beer with, or shoot the shit playing cards or playing games. Matter fact it's always been the opposite, where as I HATE my co-workers. Hell even the short blue hairs I was wary of aren't that bad.

I also loathe to give a two weeks notice to a great director after being here less than two months.
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Well people are going to be complete shit at the state. So yea that's something to consider. You will be constantly involved in politics as a side effect of working for the executive. You'll constantly be given random stupid things as unfunded mandates from new laws. Your policies and procedures may change dramatically with new administrations. Etc. Etc. It's something to be cognizant of when working or contracting with state governments.

That said, if you get your socialization outside of work and value job security and pension, it might be worth it. I don't know about MA specifically but guessing they have collective bargaining for everything, and even so you might not get raises some years based on budget stuff.

Are you close to Boston at all? I know it's terrible getting in and out of Logan when I have to go there.
 
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Well people are going to be complete shit at the state. So yea that's something to consider. You will be constantly involved in politics as a side effect of working for the executive. You'll constantly be given random stupid things as unfunded mandates from new laws. Your policies and procedures may change dramatically with new administrations. Etc. Etc. It's something to be cognizant of when working or contracting with state governments.

That said, if you get your socialization outside of work and value job security and pension, it might be worth it. I don't know about MA specifically but guessing they have collective bargaining for everything, and even so you might not get raises some years based on budget stuff.

Are you close to Boston at all? I know it's terrible getting in and out of Logan when I have to go there.
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Jeez. Didn't even think of the things you listed. I am so not into politics of any kind. My dad, girl, fam etc. live in Boston. I will stay a few days a week at their houses for a couple months. My dad won't stop calling me, he's so excited that I will stay there a day or to at his house.

I get all my social shit outside work. I do value job security and the pension is the biggest reason to swap IMO.
 
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Jeez. Didn't even think of the things you listed. I am so not into politics of any kind. My dad, girl, fam etc. live in Boston. I will stay a few days a week at their houses for a couple months. My dad won't stop calling me, he's so excited that I will stay there a day or to at his house.

I get all my social shit outside work. I do value job security and the pension is the biggest reason to swap IMO.
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Yea. I dunno. It's tough to turn down a pay raise and job security in this economy. You sound really positive about your current coworkers, which isn't nothing. But it can always get changed on you too. At the state they'll probably rarely change, if it's like most.

Everything in government moves slower. More paperwork. No one knows who needs to approve or sign anything. Resources take forever to get. Contracts that should change won't and ones that wouldn't will. It's a different working environment.
 
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My wife's work is getting thoroughly pajeeted. The Indian VP is demanding everyone works on the retail schedule where everyone works all holidays, weekends, and is essentially on call for no reason 24/7. As she works in manufacturing technology. Nobody is reining the dude in either.

Her immediate manager and a few others are jumping ship. Looks like total Jeetification will be complete this year.
 
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Brahma said:
Jeez. Didn't even think of the things you listed. I am so not into politics of any kind. My dad, girl, fam etc. live in Boston. I will stay a few days a week at their houses for a couple months. My dad won't stop calling me, he's so excited that I will stay there a day or to at his house.

I get all my social shit outside work. I do value job security and the pension is the biggest reason to swap IMO.
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Palum is right. I worked for a state in public safety for 2.5 years. People at state government are the dregs and awful politics.

If you think furry is worthless. I introduce to you the state employee.
 
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My wife's work is getting thoroughly pajeeted. The Indian VP is demanding everyone works on the retail schedule where everyone works all holidays, weekends, and is essentially on call for no reason 24/7. As she works in manufacturing technology. Nobody is reining the dude in either.

Her immediate manager and a few others are jumping ship. Looks like total Jeetification will be complete this year.
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Is it just a gambit to get all the Americans to quit so they can hire more indians?
 
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Is it just a gambit to get all the Americans to quit so they can hire more indians?
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My company is doing this same thing to great success, almost all of the higher paid actual talent is long gone, replaced by south american consultants, but they just hired an Indian SVP who is already planning on replacing all those consultants with Indians. I'm essentially coasting for now until I figure out what I want to do since I'm one of the last platform SMEs here and they can't afford to fire me.
 
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Is it just a gambit to get all the Americans to quit so they can hire more indians?
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Yes, make conditions worse so Americans quit, then hire more Indians. Not sure if gambit is the right word because inevitably it gets results.

Standard operating procedure these days. This is a white collar engineering department at a big company.
 
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Brahma Brahma driving in to Boston is the fucking worst. I did it for a year and if I never do it again it'll be too soon. That alone would be a deal breaker

Edit: I see you said you'd be staying in Boston so that might be ok. But also fuck Boston.
 
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After switching to cores instead of sockets for their pricing model, invoice from VMware was basically 7 times the previous cost.
It's probably all containers as much as possible + Proxmox going forward now, as VMware pricing alone is more expensive what Amazon EC would cost.

I sure hope the managers getting the bonus for this idea are cashing out quickly before it all comes crashing down.
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To be honest. I don't think anyone here is Broadcoms target market. Hocks whole strategy is to focus on the top 100/1000 or so customers and entirely cater to them. Everyone else is irrelevant.

I just want to last until mid March when my last major vest is. After that. Time to rest for a while. Find a startup or something that has low pay but something fun to work on.
 
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To be honest. I don't think anyone here is Broadcoms target market. Hocks whole strategy is to focus on the top 100/1000 or so customers and entirely cater to them. Everyone else is irrelevant.
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I mainly work for a company in the top 50 of the Fortune 500, and even here the increase in prices is raising eyebrows from management. In this economic climate trying to multiply costs is automatically going to make leadership re-evaluate past decisions. Amazon is saying that they have the same problem, and that their biggest rival for them is customers repatriating from the cloud.

What's worse is that once people talk, and once you hear a few success stories suddenly the hivemind breaks down: Virtualization is no longer automatically associated with VMware. It's the same with NetApp no longer being the default filers, or Cisco with switches and routers. "No one has ever been fired for buying IBM" is a thing of the past.
 
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To be honest. I don't think anyone here is Broadcoms target market. Hocks whole strategy is to focus on the top 100/1000 or so customers and entirely cater to them. Everyone else is irrelevant.

I just want to last until mid March when my last major vest is. After that. Time to rest for a while. Find a startup or something that has low pay but something fun to work on.
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Well if you believe rumors, broadcom is eyeing the storage division of Dell (legacy EMC).

Might be baseless but I've heard it enough time .
 
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Wife's work got spicy today.

All of the white managers got laid off today. Not a single Indian did though. Happened a lot faster than she thought. She's mad though as she's been there 7 years now.
 
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About 250 people got "surprise" laid-off today. Company had another shit earnings call and our stock dropped ~19% today. Nobody under SVP level knew these layoffs were coming. Lots of confusion and bewilderment. I survived but there isn't much on shore staff left and certainly almost no talent left.

Internal job postings have been updated. Almost entirely listed in India.
 
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This is my company's Corporate HQ. Which is still listed on our website with a directions link that leads to:

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Tomorrow is gonna be fuckin wild....
 
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TJT

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This is my company's Corporate HQ. Which is still listed on our website with a directions link that leads to:

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Tomorrow is gonna be fuckin wild....
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Dang, my old HSA was with WEX.

My wife called her laid off manager and got the details. All of the white managers that were laid off were the ones who pushed back on leadership about the retardation of being on-call 24/7, working all holidays, and "overtime" despite all being salaried. The Indians of course did not push back on the Indian SVP laying this down and remained. Odds all of the new manufacturing technology and development managers they hire in the next few months are Indians!?

Kind of reminds me of the Pajeetification at my own job. New Indian SVP here also fired two senior directors and SMEs on part of the client delivery process. The Indians he replaced them with lacked any of the institutional knowledge and can't even deliver half of what the org previously could to our highest paying clients.
 
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I've found Indian engineers will work 24/7 but produce the most garbage-ass non-scalable barely functioning code. Maybe it's just my industry, but I have a feeling it's not.

Maybe these bosses are hoping they can take the diarrhea code indians write and pass it through AI to make it more solid. I really don't know. A lot of our job postings are for Bangalore as well.

On my front, we had a.single person joining to take on a fairly large project. Got the word last week that he got laid off. Now they're asking for schedule estimates for me to do it..

I kind of just laugh now, but I noticed my beard is going grey real fast.
 
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