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After months of bemoaning and whining they finally gave me an additional dev this week. He's completely brand new so it's going to be a long ramp up (which is fine).

The funny thing is when I was showing him some stuff he made a comment like "I grew up wondering how computers work and now I get to write BIOS, this is so cool." I loved that because I remember years ago thinking the same thing.
 
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Bros I got done dirty because other people fucked up and left shit undone, I got asked to find a standalone attendance system for training/seminars/conferences that can issue NFC/BLE smartphone wallet credentials. Anyone got a simple system they can recommend? Normally I'd just jerry rig something with building control or payroll to use existing credentials but this needs to be isolated because HR can't be trusted.
 
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So at my company we have always had a general culture of letting people try stuff out. Like, if you're a finance guy such as this case and want to dig around the data warehouses we have by all means. We have always encouraged and enabled that kind of cross-department initiative. I learned how our automated infrastructure for massive application scaling worked and stuff this way for example.

When this guy started I gave him keys to the data kingdom and let him go to town. Mostly he just researched stuff but eventually he began creating operational products out of retard shit like raw kafka messages that he didn't remotely understand. He left the company and I got stuck holding the bag with his pile of shit. As his leadership was actually dependent on it even though the dude made it via chatgpt programming and has no idea of the veracity, reliability, etc of any of it. Then pumped it all into a bunch of crap in PowerBI.

I've spent the past two weeks tearing it apart and have determined it never actually did anything he claimed it did. But I am struggling to explain to his leadership of business people why it's not capable of "predictive revenue forecasting."

Are finance people usually this like, weirdly full of shit? Like dude, the sources he used aren't even about revenue or anything. Yes they did have kafka topics with $ values in it but it wasn't directly related to revenue generation. They didn't even confirm this with the accounting people who are liable for accurate revenue on the books.
 
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Everyone is full of shit. The bigger the company, the easier it is for people to be entirely, completely and unquestioningly full of shit.

People can't get away with it at smaller companies because more eyes are on what each individual employee is doing and producing and there is more veracity for function because, generally speaking, there isn't enough cap for wasteful, useless spending.

This is only going to get exponentially worse for the next 5-10 years as everyone buys into "AI" that isn't even remotely actual AI. They will blindly accept whatever their "AI" of choice spits out. Inevitably this house of cards will come tumbling down but people like me (and likely you as well) will have a hard time staying employed as actual developers, ironically, because of our experience and salaries.

Salesforce is being touted as one of the pioneers of AI. Go watch their Matthew McConaughey "AI" commercials to get a taste of just how insane and out of touch the entire AI phenomenon is. Changing reservations because it's supposed to rain or finding out what someone likes to wear... just absolutely retarded use cases where AI is completely unnecessary and isn't even doing anything. And it's being advertised like that...
 
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TJT said:
As his leadership was actually dependent on it even though the dude made it via chatgpt programming and has no idea of the veracity, reliability, etc of any of it. Then pumped it all into a bunch of crap in PowerBI.
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Many such cases.
 
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TJT said:
So at my company we have always had a general culture of letting people try stuff out. Like, if you're a finance guy such as this case and want to dig around the data warehouses we have by all means. We have always encouraged and enabled that kind of cross-department initiative. I learned how our automated infrastructure for massive application scaling worked and stuff this way for example.

When this guy started I gave him keys to the data kingdom and let him go to town. Mostly he just researched stuff but eventually he began creating operational products out of retard shit like raw kafka messages that he didn't remotely understand. He left the company and I got stuck holding the bag with his pile of shit. As his leadership was actually dependent on it even though the dude made it via chatgpt programming and has no idea of the veracity, reliability, etc of any of it. Then pumped it all into a bunch of crap in PowerBI.

I've spent the past two weeks tearing it apart and have determined it never actually did anything he claimed it did. But I am struggling to explain to his leadership of business people why it's not capable of "predictive revenue forecasting."

Are finance people usually this like, weirdly full of shit? Like dude, the sources he used aren't even about revenue or anything. Yes they did have kafka topics with $ values in it but it wasn't directly related to revenue generation. They didn't even confirm this with the accounting people who are liable for accurate revenue on the books.
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Personally I'd just present the raw data.

This is what he did and this is what it does/doesn't do.
 
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Khane said:
Everyone is full of shit. The bigger the company, the easier it is for people to be entirely, completely and unquestioningly full of shit.

People can't get away with it at smaller companies because more eyes are on what each individual employee is doing and producing and there is more veracity for function because, generally speaking, there isn't enough cap for wasteful, useless spending.

This is only going to get exponentially worse for the next 5-10 years as everyone buys into "AI" that isn't even remotely actual AI. They will blindly accept whatever their "AI" of choice spits out. Inevitably this house of cards will come tumbling down but people like me (and likely you as well) will have a hard time staying employed as actual developers, ironically, because of our experience and salaries.

Salesforce is being touted as one of the pioneers of AI. Go watch their Matthew McConaughey "AI" commercials to get a taste of just how insane and out of touch the entire AI phenomenon is. Changing reservations because it's supposed to rain or finding out what someone likes to wear... just absolutely retarded use cases where AI is completely unnecessary and isn't even doing anything. And it's being advertised like that...
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That society might wilt and die on the basis of misaligned SaaS dashboards would indeed be a fitting end to this terrible era.

Thou shalt not make a KPI as a substitute for critical thinking.
 
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That society might wilt and die on the basis of misaligned SaaS dashboards would indeed be a fitting end to this terrible era.

Thou shalt not make a KPI as a substitute for critical thinking.
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You are assuming that critical thinking ever entered into the equation for any civilization that has existed. Thats an optimistic view, but of course flawed. Every system eventually breaks down over a combination of grifters, incompetence, apathy, and entropy. The Information Age will end no differently, without a very bloody transition. And its a direct consequence of information taking the place of commodities as the most valuable thing. In a weird twist of irony, those of us working in IT are profiting from the very force that will collapse our civilization.
 
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Noodleface said:
Personally I'd just present the raw data.

This is what he did and this is what it does/doesn't do.
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They don't understand the raw data to begin with.

The extent of the conversation is more like "You smart tech nerd but can't figure it out? Why was our guy able to do it but you can't? They've been using this guy's stuff for years and he sold it heavily as lol hyper advanced predictive analytics on revenue generation or some other garbage that they based all of their finance planning on.

But the code he put together never did any of that, it couldn't have and was always completely wrong. Deathwing Deathwing has it right.
 
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Brahma

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Finally accepted the job with the state. Gave my two weeks (three) a few minutes ago. If this process of getting hired is any indication of how things are run for the state of Massachusetts...

  • Sent me the wrong offer letter twice
  • Took 3 weeks to check references
  • 3 week for CORI check
  • Contradicting salary from HR vs manager
  • Contradicting answers from HR vs manager on WFM policy
  • Correction on my title
I really hope this is my last gig.
 
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Brahma said:
Finally accepted the job with the state. Gave my two weeks (three) a few minutes ago. If this process of getting hired is any indication of how things are run for the state of Massachusetts...

  • Sent me the wrong offer letter twice
  • Took 3 weeks to check references
  • 3 week for CORI check
  • Contradicting salary from HR vs manager
  • Contradicting answers from HR vs manager on WFM policy
  • Correction on my title
I really hope this is my last gig.
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My wife works for the state. Looks like you got off easy
 
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Brahma said:
Finally accepted the job with the state. Gave my two weeks (three) a few minutes ago. If this process of getting hired is any indication of how things are run for the state of Massachusetts...

  • Sent me the wrong offer letter twice
  • Took 3 weeks to check references
  • 3 week for CORI check
  • Contradicting salary from HR vs manager
  • Contradicting answers from HR vs manager on WFM policy
  • Correction on my title
I really hope this is my last gig.
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From my dealings with MA you got off light.
 
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Upside: They laid off many layers of senior management. I'd say 50% of non-engineers just gone. It goes straight from me to my boss to the VP.
Downside: They laid off the two upper managers who were actually good at their job.
 
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Neranja said:
So say we all.
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Well you can always make a job your last gig

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Brahma

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Director told me he is going to the C -Suite and asking for matches. I doubt the money will be a problem, but the WFH, I doubt they will bite since company policy is hybrid, and even they must come in.
 
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